AITAH

AITAH for banning users with scam links and other domains mostly bots use?

Hello AITAH community!

Since our head mod began recruiting efforts a few months ago, we've expanded our moderation team and increased our toolkit to try to give you the best experience this sub can offer. Our last mod announcement was unfortunately on April 1st but we assure you our efforts are not a joke. We care about this community and want to see the quality in this community continue to improve.

Here are a few changes we've implemented over the last few months since the new team came on:

Automod: We actually use it now! We're banning social media links, scam links, amazon links, anything that can be used to monetize or self-promote has been banned. We also try to filter out those oh-so-real posts about making it big on gambling sites and we continually adjust the filter on hot topics. Nobody needs rage bait, right? Additionally we get warnings if a post or comment gets too many reports. Reports are important, this will be a theme in the post.

Rules: Rules have been refined and expounded upon. You may have noticed some comments removed for name calling or incivility. Reports from users really help us find these (theme). We have put the rules in the sidebar, the new.reddit sidebar, and the wiki. No matter how you reddit, the new rules are there, you should see them and maybe take a moment to review them. If we were to undergo anything more drastic than common sense rule changes, we will announce them in a post and sticky it.

We've also added automated tools against ban evasion, bots, karma farmers, and scammers. None of these are perfect, obviously, but they have managed to catch some of the repeat trolls, lower-quality bots, and most of the "AITAH for looking too hot in my bikini? link to my OF here btw" posts. If you get caught in one of these, the initial modmail should contain instructions on how to reverse it, otherwise reach out and we will investigate.

A specific note about one of these tools: it checks links in your profile and your activity on specific karma-farming subreddits. We do not police regular subreddit usage, you will never see us ban you for posting in "normal" subreddits such as sports, your city subreddit, or even political subs. We only ban participants in karma farming or scammer-oriented subs. We also don't ban normal social links - your FB, Insta, etc. are all fine. We ban links where people could give you money - both SFW ones like Venmo and CashApp and NSFW ones. If you need these links in your profile, you can make an alt account without the links, and we will ignore Reddit's ban evasion warnings if you let us know. We can't sort out the real enterprising users who frequent this sub from those that are owners of hundreds of bots, and we won't attempt the effort or the botfarm owners would just appeal the bans. We are not anti-sex worker or anti-entrepreneur, we are anti bots. Blame the bots or yell at us and take a perma.

Report alerts (theme): We get bat-signals for reports now. Please, please use reports appropriately and not as a super-downvote. If a comment or post gets enough reports, we at least lay eyes on them and discuss internally. We have modmail, we have a chat group. We don't only look at reported posts, but reporting them makes them much more visible to us. We've seen the shittiest ragebait barely garner 3 reports on something with 2k karma, and there will be 50 comments calling it fake. We need your reports, we use them. Please report responsibly and we'll do our part, we know mods have been less responsive in the past but our mod team has grown and so has our response team. Please report personal attacks and AI slop, we hate both. A note on the custom report feature - this can be helpful to note previous posts by OP, or a link to an old post they obviously copied from, but sometimes it is less helpful. We can mute reports from someone if they make unhelpful custom reports, and if that happens too often we will disable that feature.

These automations come with collateral damage. We get people who got hacked and had those links put in their profile. We get software devs who just leave an open hand asking for a coffee if you appreciate their efforts. We get people who mostly post in local city subs looking to pawn off their wares. We get bots. Like a lot of bots. Like holy shit a lot of them. The ban to complaint ratio is still very good but every morning the moderation team wakes up to appeals because xXSweetCherryXx, an account made 19 hours ago, can't post here any more because "she" has links to OF, paypal, and/or fansly (this is not a comprehensive example, it's a lot more) on her profile. If we didn't ban them then, they'd be banned in a dozen days after making some AI shitpost and then shitting up other subs spamming their AI onlyfans content.

We put these restrictions in place to allow the most common contributor to the sub to persist. The "This is a throwaway, here is my real story" user. We can put in account age limits, but the bots use abandoned reddit profiles, the bot owners are also patient. We can put in karma requirements, but the bots karma farm in karma farm subs or no-karma-required subs. We cannot impose limitations that do not adversely affect the real contributions to this subreddit. So instead we added the automated tools. It's the best solution we have now while leaving the door open to genuine throwaways. If the community is so sick of the fake posts that you want us to try these anyway, please let us know and we will try to implement this in a way that minimizes the collateral to real throwaways.

Our final say is the tools do more good than harm, much to the dismay of our more entrepreneurial posters who are real people. We have actually been repeatedly asked by mods of other major subreddits to implement some of these tools, since they notice the shitposters build up their karma minimums here. It is the mod team's opinion that this policy is a largely net good, but we want to remain transparent as we implement broader changes to the sub.

So reddit, AITAH for adding apps to block scam links, auto-hide comments with a ton of reports, and block users who have links that are commonly associated with scams?

https://www.reddit.com/r/AITAH/comments/1l4t34l/aitah_for_banning_users_with_scam_links_and_other/
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Discussion

Little-Martha31204

NTA. Thanks for what you do.

1 month ago
[deleted]

NTA thanks for doing that.

3 weeks ago
Astyryx

All very reasonable. Thanks for looking out for the community. 

1 month ago
blueboy714

NTA

1 month ago
Glittering-Sun7823

what is nta

1 month ago
blueboy714

not the ass(hole)

1 month ago
DonutLife1289

New to the subreddit?

1 month ago
Ennuidownloaddone

I'm seeing a big problem where someone says something true but unpopular, and then the people who didn't like the thing being said mass report the comment until the auto mod bans the person.

We even have a reminder to not downvote assholes, yet it still happens and the mass reporting is just a continuation of that.  I have no solutions besides turning off the auto-ban for mass reports, but you should consider this problem more deeply.

1 month ago
sn34kypete OP

We do not auto-ban for mass reports. We get a bat signal and the post is temporarily removed. We have pretty good coverage on time zones so while responses aren't instant, we get to them sooner rather than later.

Of the few times I've seen reports piled onto a comment -30 points deep, they are breaking sub rules and said something heinous so that's not a current concern.-

As for posts, the threshold is at a pretty good number at the moment with relation to how many users bother to report things. We have had a false positive or two mass-reported as a super downvote but the post was restored fast enough that no OP has asked where their post went.

Once we manually approve a post reports are ignored unless they edit the post.

I hope that addresses your concerns

1 month ago
Low-Move-3471

Down voting this because staff refuses to deal with David Nguyen and his fake accounts when we report him. Honestly, if we tell you he's posting here, you guys should act immediately!😠😡

1 week ago
KronkLaSworda

NTA

Feel free to ban more people. So many ChatGPT posts here lately. Ban them, with a hammer.

> Please, please use reports appropriately and not as a super-downvote.

Reporting obvious AI and fake BS is my favorite hobby.

4 weeks ago
toddsputnik

NTA. Thank you.

1 month ago
Iracus

Can we get a new rule that requires posters to comment? Might help get rid of some of the garbage posts. But there are just far too many posts with zero engagement from the OP, even to answer questions. As YWBTA if it is allowed for commentless posts by the OP to continue

And maybe a 'help' guide for anyone asking if they would be the ah for things like eating their own lunch or asking someone to move out of their seat on an airplane, or other boring posts like that. I am thinking like a big megapost of things like

AITA If...

I broke up with my X - No

I told the person who ran me over with their car, that such an action was uncalled for - No

etc

4 weeks ago
darrowreaper

Sorry to get back to you so late. We don't have an automated way to force OP to comment or have their post removed, unfortunately, but I see how it could be useful.

A common situations guide could be neat - that might be something we solicit community feedback on in the future. Thanks!

3 weeks ago
FoxSparkles5944

Nope.

1 month ago
Fit-Opposite-9925

hola como estas

2 weeks ago
Every-Cloud9523

AITAH...I left my partner three weeks ago. He violated consent more than once. I have text messages from him admitting his actions. Do I turn him in? Or just blackmail him? Or do nothing to protect the people who depend upon him?

I am leaning more towards blackmail to get my way and for him to live in fear.

1 month ago
nightingaledaze

thank you for trying to make the sub what it's supposed to be. I hate fake posts

1 month ago
[deleted]

NTA- Thanks! Your efforts are seen, and I hunger for the future that sees more subs try this hard to combat the rageyhornyscammy scams.

1 month ago
Doc_Hank

No, not even a little bit. No obligation at all, in fact she's the AH for trying to force it.

1 month ago
atmasabr

Meh. If you don't grow, you decay.

1 month ago
LukeHeart

NTA thanks for the update

1 month ago
PuddinTamename

Nope, and thank you.

1 month ago
Outside-Chemistry180

most NTA

1 month ago
Mental-Tap-8300
Post Update

thanks it's really great of u.all the moderators team thank you

1 month ago
FatalExceptionError

NTA. Sounds like reasonable steps. It also sounds like a lot of effort on your side, s9 thanks for that.

1 month ago
Kitsyn

NTA. These sound like good things.

1 month ago
sexyjasminahaze69

NTA 🥰

1 month ago
BathSean

You guys put in a lot of work. Bravo 👏

1 month ago
Sudden-Astronomer-84

NTA

4 weeks ago
VegemiteTermite93

NTA

4 weeks ago
ResearcherStill4428

NTA.

4 weeks ago
SuspiciousDark2197

That all sounds fair to me. Thanks for the input on what you do and all you do

4 weeks ago
KableKutterz_WxAB

NTA. Your group, your rules. You’re trying to clean up a mess that has metastasized. It’s time to get rid of this cancer!

3 weeks ago
Grand_Age3859

Definitely not NTA. As an old geezer, I don’t know a lot about some of the terms you used in your post but, if you’re making ‘life here’ easier then, my thanks and gratitude to you and everyone who works this job !! Please, do let me know if I’ve overstepped or violated something in my posting or been reported as I can become insensitive and apply less than stellar thinking to responses I receive. It doesn’t help I know I’m not alone.. (lol). I dislike having to submit an apology but, I always have and always will if it appears I may have caused distress.

1 month ago
sn34kypete OP

If you have never gotten a comment from someone here with a green name, a modmail or a ban, you're doing fine, whatever that is. Broadly speaking, don't use AI, don't advertise, and keep opinions about hot-button issues to a respectful and polite tone and you should be fine.

1 month ago
Grand_Age3859

Wellll..tbh, I’ve been less than polite responding to what I believe are deliberate personal attacks but, I’m getting better at responding to them with simple logic/facts and I’m not prolonging the conversation bc I know flame wars don’t promote learning or understanding, something we truly need today.

1 month ago
RIPJAW_12893

YTA, hustlers gotta hustle

1 month ago
Successful_Buffalo24

Lmao 

1 month ago
tepin762

NTA. Most of the commercials intersecting videos on Youtube are scams anyway.

1 month ago
RetiredOnIslandTime

I sometimes post and comment, in subs that get lots and lots of activity. How can I know if they're considered karma subs?

1 month ago
sn34kypete OP

If the explicit intent of participating in the subreddit, both by posts and by comments, is to boost and increase each other's karma without meaningfully "earning" it in the usual way, then it's a no go.

For example, one sub is called "Free Karma 4 u". It is by bots, for bots, and is the equivalent of a cesspit in terms of content and the users that participate reflect that.

We stick the ones where a user makes an account and immediately goes to that sub and says "give me karma so I can shit up a real subreddit thanks"

1 month ago
Decent-Muffin4190

I'm curious why subs like that are allowed to exist. Is there some centralized rule enforcement that can ban/delete the whole sub?

1 month ago
darrowreaper

I assume it's either low on Reddit admins' priority to address, or they monitor those subs as honeypots to better identify bots. You could try reporting them to Reddit admins though.

1 month ago
Electronic_Client_98

YTA, I love spam. Tasty spam!

1 month ago
Every-Cloud9523

AITAH...I finally left my partner three weeks ago.

1 month ago
Mediocre-Season-4664

My brother got banned. He doesnt even use this site much or use links he just reads. The auto banned needs to be tweaked

4 weeks ago
sn34kypete OP

Have your brother modmail us and we will review.

3 weeks ago
Fuhrious520

Need more info. Are you doing it for free?

3 weeks ago
darrowreaper

Yes, we don't get paid anything and Reddit mod rules say we can't monetize it. It's fully volunteer work.

3 weeks ago
All-Humans-Suck

Yes. Some people only have that one credit account or some of the accounts are really old. I think if people post something that looks suspicious or inappropriate or the profile looks suspicious, you should just look into that. At least a temporary band until you get a chance to actually check their profile out because sometimes a bot can be wrong.

3 weeks ago
Competitive_Cat_5792

Am I the asshole for not telling my mom things when she tells the whole family and when it comes to her talking to me she always asks someone else to

3 weeks ago
TALKTOME0701

I know of a couple really popular threads that were taken down because of the number of bot bans.

if there are apps doing the work, why not let them do that and let people continue to enjoy the thread?

If mods have to manually check them all, I can see where that would be prohibitive, but bots don't get tired

3 weeks ago
sn34kypete OP

We use the apps for the lowest of hanging fruit. If a user posts in a karma farming sub and then here, you'll never see their post. What gets past the bots is AI slop, the people posting do not do "bot behavior".

I cannot stress this enough, if the post seems fake, report it. We look at reports. None of the top 25 posts on our sub right now have more than 1 report.

3 weeks ago
Shepherd_of_Dragons

NTA, we appreciate all you do.

3 weeks ago
[deleted]

Nta

3 weeks ago
Nataliasanangel

I have a conflict with my partner over chatgpt that I would love to post here, would it get taken down because it revolves around AI?

3 weeks ago
2l2lv

NTA. Thank you for making this place better

3 weeks ago
[deleted]

NTA Thanks for doing that.

3 weeks ago
clean_sammi

NTA. Although it's all about a good or interesting story, it's nice to hope for some real-ish people making it through.

3 weeks ago
Low-Move-3471

And what exactly do you intend to do about David Nguyen. He gets banned and creates new accounts every couple of days. We know he's getting around the bans through a VPN.

IMHO anytime someone from the sub dedicated to him reports his activity here, swift action should be taken. He just uses this sub to justify being a jerk to people, committing crimes, and stalking his therapists.

3 weeks ago
Emergency_Comfort_92

NTA

3 weeks ago
NerdyGeekPerson155

no, as long as you aren't just seeing a bunch of reports and saying g'bye cause ppl report some stupid shit sometimes.

3 weeks ago
PeyroniesCat

NTA.

Dead internet is getting closer every day.

3 weeks ago
Realistic_Head4279

NTA. Keep up the good work!

3 weeks ago
Good-Practice-1290

NTA I think

2 weeks ago
MelodramaticMouse

Could you please have automod filter out anyone posting to r/WhatIsMyCQS ? I see that in so many bot histories.

2 weeks ago
Realistic_Head4279

NTA. Thanks!

2 weeks ago
Bitter_Oil_1311

NTA!

2 weeks ago
Little_stalker_078

NTA. But some stories seem like fakes but aren't. I've come across 2 of such stories that people i know wrote, yet they are getting called out fr being AI

2 weeks ago
Initial__K

NTA

Good job

2 weeks ago
SalJoeMurrQuinnImJok

nope NTA

2 weeks ago
tomtomclubthumb

NTA - honestly half of my YTAs these days are for lazy bait.

2 weeks ago
InsultedNevertheless

NTA. And honestly, It's brilliant you put so much thought and effort into it. Thanks for the details.

2 weeks ago
bonefulfroot

1a

2 weeks ago
Hammaer96

YTA clearly. I'm only on reddit to enjoy the scambots and karma farming accounts.

/s because it's the internet

2 weeks ago
IED117

No ytah for not letting me type the word female dog when much worse language is allowed.

1 week ago
rainfal

YTA.

You and everyone would know if you went to tarotreader.com/totallynotascam. Instagram:legittaroandwontstealyourcreditcard. Use codename: Reddit to get 50% off your first reading.

1 week ago
Fancy_Lime_7051
Ii o no
1 week ago
Fancy_Lime_7051

Z is.w.bs

1 week ago
Low-Move-3471

Mods, you're failing! David Nguyen uses a VPN. He creates multiple accounts. He posts AITA posts about his therapists and crimes like stalking, theft, property damage, and credit card fraud. What do you have to say about this. Until he is stopped no one here is safe.

1 week ago
Low-Move-3471

https://www.reddit.com/r/AITAH/comments/1loyuqz/aitah_for_saying_that_my_cousins_are_dumb/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button This is David Nguyen. Do not lie and say you're keeping us safe. You guys don't stop his posts. You let him back on here under multiple accounts. He is a criminal and a sexual predator.

1 week ago
New-Amphibian-2968

NTA, thanks for doing that.

3 days ago
CharmingSeason7790

Lord no. Far from an AH, you're a hero.

13 hours ago
SnooRadishes8848

NTA, thank you

9 hours ago