I read it and thought pokeball. Come act 2 and the last light is turning into a bloodbath so I decided to catch one of the enemies with it. I never once considered that it wasn't empty and an hour later shadowheart was the only person left alive in the whole place. Possibly the greatest battle ive ever had in any video game ever
oh no lmao. I used it as a distraction when I was approaching a total party wipe in the House of Grief. It was very funny and very stupid. The Last Light Inn must have been wild.
I wouldn't have it any other way It was the best mistake I ever made
I’ve used it twice in the end of act 3 high hall battle. It’s a wonderful meat shield distraction for the enemy
I always forget to remember to bring the iron flask to act 2 to turn it into an undead slave.
I still use it like a pokemon just not near anything I would like to survive
I always forget that I have the Flask, the one time I remember to use it was on the final battle.
wait I’m planning on do this—do you have a recommended time for max chaotic effect?
The higher level you are the better.
Spectators are lvl 5.
Death Shepherds are lvl 6.
Shadow Plush, Mummy and Daddy are lvl 7.
The Drider is lvl 7.
Maybe the other Thrones.
My Shadow Plush didn't handle too well cause it was too big and kept getting stuck
I couldn't use it during the final battle, Karlach would say it's not a good time for that. But the only companion I could summon was the Owlbear and Ox too. So maybe it was a glich
same but by that point the enemies took care of the spectator in like 2 turns
Do you need to be an oath breaker to do that?
Yes.
Got me a Wraith, Death Shepard and Shadow Plush (Owlbear) in my Shadowland travels.
I really like having the nurses whenever i get into the shadowlands.
Huh. Never thought of that one.
They follow you around with that perfect creepy walk. Highly recommend.
Learn something new everyday day.
Undead slave?
Throw it in a shadow cursed area, wait for the curse to kill it, then use oathbreaker paladin’s Control Undead to recruit it
I guess slave isn't the right word, cause they don't listen.
More like, under new management.
What do you mean… bring it? Once it’s in inventory you have it
I have used the Flask at the Goblin Camp fight, at the Mountain Creche fight, and at the Moonrise Tower fight. It's inconsistent + nondeterministic -- one playthrough it'll wreak havoc on your enemies, next time it'll ignore them and fly right back to chew on your party -- but I find my odds are better when the number of enemies is high(er). Might be good against the Shar-Justiciars...
Can confirm. Great to use during the fight against Viconia.
If you unlock the door to Balthazar’s office r in the mausoleum, you can draw him and his medics into a fight with the shadow DJs. Usually, my crew and I chill in the room until the fights almost over. The iron flask would be a fun way to speed up that fight.
I used it in the final battle. I dont think it rolled higher than a 7 on anything for the 4 rounds it survived.
That's the real crux of the thing -- you sorta have to use the Flask slightly before your party can handle it, because, if you wait until "you can easily defeat the monster," your enemies aren't particularly bothered by it either. I think Moonrise Tower is perhaps the 'last peak' of its utility -- I rarely bring the item all the way to Act 3, but, even if I did, I'm not sure I would use it anywhere, except possibly the House of Grief, for chuckles.
(Also for chuckles: there's a Redditor lurking on this sub who goes to the city newspaper office, triggering the we're-gonna-publish-a-negative-story-about-Tav dialogue, specifically so (s)he can throw the Flask into the building, then leave + Arcane Lock the door. I might keep the item for this purpose; sounds hilarious.)
Best use of it is to cheese Orin fight. Throw it at her from far away without triggering the cutscene. They'll start fighting and you can join in anytime. There's a chance the temple buffs won't trigger and she doesn't regain Unstoppable.
I've never opened the iron flask. Does it open if you throw it at someone/thing?
Yep.
Nice
It has a spectator on it
I do wish it can be reused for other enemies. Even bosses.
Tav, with Little Nicky voice: “Hey, Myrkul! Get in the flask!”
Threw it (the spectator) at Balthazar for the lulz, pretty effective
I also 100% thought it was a pokeball (although I did know it already had a monster in it), and I was super disappointed I couldn’t use it to catch other monsters.
I also didn't know it was empty and had presumed it was a melee range petrushka doll, so logically I had it in Laezel's inventory. Definitely a twist to the "source of my bruises" scene when she immediately unleashed it
I've picked it up in every round. Not once have I remembered to use the bloody thing.
I thought it would be fun to throw into the goblin fortress and watch it go wild but it wasn't hostile with the goblins.
Really?? I used it inside the temple area when the goblins were already hostile. It was mass chaos.
That's probably it, I wasn't hostile with them yet, still it doesn't seem like the Spectator should care.
It has standards.
I saved it for the final battle and threw it at the Spectator there.
Spectator on Spectator action, get your tickets now!!!
Thats a great idea. Were you in combat or just chilling? It was already a slaughter when I used it and an enemy probably hit it with an aoe and pissed it off.
Just chilling, it sounds like it only works if the Goblins are already hostile.
Yea that's probably the case, do him and the goblins just gang up on you after that then? Expecting all hell to break loos but all of them teaming up on you would be one hell of a fight
I threw the flask pretty far, the Spectator had a red circle indicating they were hostile but it just floated in place while the goblins milled around like nothing unusual was going on. I just loaded without triggering combat after that since the plan was a disappointment.
I like to throw it at Gortash. It keeps him & his guards occupied while destroy them with AOE spells and elementals.
I had Astarion spitefully throw it at Cazador along with every bottle of holy water he had. It was very cathartic!
In all of my playthroughs I have never bothered with that item. Only one time did I actually get the item, but I beat the game with it in my inventory. Never saw a need to use it.
After that I just gave the chest to the Zenth and took the reward because I found the items on their vendor FAR more useful.
Is there any way to get it back? I kill them immediately afterwards but didn’t find it on their bodies
Unfortunately if the chest is gone, its gone.
I like throwing this in the House of Grief
I saved it for the House of Hope fight. It drew most of the enemy fire while I focused on smacking down the pillars in the entryway. All in all, it was a great use of the “pokeball”!
I taunted fate in Honour Mode by tossing the flask into the Final Courtyard, it was a sight to behold.
So I opened it in camp and wyll left my camp permanently with his dad Not sure if they got scared or what
Same thing happened to me when I used a “Animate dead” scroll in camp. What’s weird is that I had been using those scrolls ever since I discovered how useful they were…but suddenly they both left—and Mizora too!
I had to reload a save to actually see it and sure enough, there they went! Running for the hills! I probably wouldn’t have noticed so quickly but I got a journal notification saying well wyll is dead so mizora has no reason to help us or something like that
I laughed, did it again, and then showed my bf haha
lmao this is awesome
I set it loose on Dror in the goblin camp and the fucking goblins killed a spectator, even after I got rid of Minthara and Gut. Useless flying meatball
Same thing happened to me, for some reason Dror and his merry band of goblins are very effective against it.
I threw it at Thisobald Thorm in my last playthrough after I failed the dialog rolls with him and ran out of inspiration points. The spectator sometimes fought Thisobald, sometimes my party if they were in range. Eventually it died, then resurrected as shadow cursed and we had to kill it a second time. My party survived but the whole thing was epic.
If you interact with it, it literally tells you there’s a creature inside, no?
...I've never once tried to interact with it.
When you 1st pick it up, if you interact with it you can examine it, I believe you have to past a arcana check, it will tell you what it is and does, and it will tell you something is inside it
The person probably didn’t know about that.
Yeah I figured if they had to look up what it was
Oh, that's nothing. On my first successful honor mode run I'd never used it before and thought the same as you. I threw it at the underdark beholder. Only one member of my party survived and they were literally in the single digits on HP.
I always chuck it at the Inquisitor in the crèche on HM. It distracts him for a turn or two while in single his forces.
I used it like a poke ball in act 1 in the under dark, made it fight its cousin of the same type next to you-know-where.
Sadly it didn't last long against its own rival and I had to step in.
I never figured out how to put anything into it after beating the monster that used to be inside it... anyone explain please?
I opened it up in my camp like a fool. It killed scratch 😭
My smooth brain didn't know you were supposed to pick up the entire crate, so I was surprised when they got agro on me at their base. Like, I did what you asked, I didn't open the flask why so mad.
You can find notes from the dead caravan guards where it was transported in Act I, and it reads something like: "Do not open it. You will die."
Thinking that it was a pokeball is certainly something new, lol.
I love that note. It says something like:
"If you open the cargo you will die. This is not a threat, it is what will happen if you open it."
I opened the cargo, took out the iron flask, I didn't die.
The flask is the cargo. The chest is just a chest.
I think the Guild told me that I must have misspoken because someone stupid enough to open cargo for them is sure to die (as in they'd kill me). Though I didn't know it was for them, the postmen died before they could tell me.
I must have missed that but to be fair it basically is a pokeball. The description says " a flask that can hold friends or foes" and its small round and red and it contains a big ass pokemon
One of the things I like to do is throw the flask into Moonrise Towers and let the beholder go to town before I start the fight. "Spectator, I choose you!"
I….have never once considered this, you little genius nutcase.
Hahah. It was so much fun to cause absolute chaos.
I did this but I didn’t do any of the quests to turn anyone inside to my side so the spectator died in a round
I sneak up to the rafters and start throwing people off as well.
You can skip most of the fight by climbing up the outside of the tower.
You can do that? I'm just been freeing prisoners then wholesale slaughter.
I haven’t done another play-through so I’m not sure. I guess a bunch of the groups inside moonrise have options to switch to your side. I specifically remember the Gnolls being mentioned but maybe more.
I had found the gauntlet of shar before moonrise and ignored the warning about story progression at the end so I’ve never been in Moonrise besides slaughtering everyone
It is basically a pokeball. The tabletop version is even reusable: catch one thing, release it, catch a different thing.
I assumed it would work that way in the game, and carried it around for ages waiting for the perfect opportunity to use it, only to watch it sail through the air at Balthazar’s golem to bonk lightly off its head for -1hp.
Hey don't feel bad, I thought Pokeball too! I was playing coop with my boyfriend and he told me not to use it as I wanter to use it to catch a Steelwatcher during the Gortash fight. Good shout
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A Pokeball is honestly almost exactly what it should be. The only, very serious and important difference in this case, is that someone else can fill it up and then just leave it for someone else to find/use at some point in the future.
Larian simply chose to implement a modified version of the tabletop item, which means that the in game version doesn't allow to catch anything and the contents are most assuredly not friendly like it should be.
Iunno, I saw it and thought "Oh neat, I wonder if we can get the command word and use it to capture things after we take care of the current occupant!"
Knowing FR lore only set me up for mild disappointment.
I assumed it meant the owner would find and kill me. I'm like "bring it on" and tried the thing out.
Whoops.
No, see, I get the pokeball part. I just would assume it had a stupidly powerful, uncontrollable one inside.
I wanted to see what horrible monstrosity was within. Surprisingly, my level 3 party did well enough. No one actually died, though it did take a lot of healing spells.
That note sounded like a challenge to my character.
I thought the same tbing. The item description says it's used to transport creatures, so I thought I could use it for that too
Oh, it's a pokeball all right, it's just not empty 😄
Iron flask is quite like a pokeball, just in this game not so much.
not really
finding it
using it
See I did the fuck around and find out option after all the killing and let's just say should have had a long rest