Just figured id throw this out there, when fighting the hag, her turn order doesnt change when she spawns clones. If you just watch the turn order you can clearly see the icon that is designated to her real body and be able to target her 100% of the time without fail.
The more you know.....
Using your brain is good, unfortunately mine has no wrinkles whatsoever
that’s even worse than koala, which is next to no wrinkles. how do you breathe?
Very carefully
Magic missile is great.
Yeah, but if you have legendary actions turned on she just spawns more. That’s how my first honor mode run ended.
This is why I make sure to use Arrow of many targets lol
Me - about 6 months ago, after about 350 hours played - “wtf is an arrow of many targets?!” - proceeds to finally save Thaniel in the fight on the beach in Act of 2.
Me - last week - “i have about 18 arrows of many targets! W00T”
18 arrows would make me so excited
Is saving thaniel what makes the game spawn those arrows at traders? Im confused
Oh - no! i can see why you thought that - no I used them to finally beat that fight on the beach!
My favorite arrow to use. Wish they were more plentiful than they are. By the time I get near act 3 I’m running low unless I keep back tracking to stock up.
Everytime you level up a vendor also restocks. You can kinda abuse this mechanic in act 3 with a level 10 thief and never run out money or arrows.
That legendary action is a reaction. I just had Gale haste potion into shocking grasp to disable her reactions, then magic missile the clones.
Same here, and it was the first time I made it to Act III on HM. :(
Just make sure you're nowhere near her when you cast it. 2nd level spell with the necklace gets you 5 missiles to launch at her clones...
(I also usually save her fight till after I've done the underdark and the creche so it's an easier fight)
Bloody clever clogs!
When the hag turns into the girl, examine them both and you’ll notice that one weighs juuust a little more than the other, due to the second heartbeat
Love the way you worded this.
Thanks for the compliment!
If you look closely at her, she also doesn't have Mayrina's baby bump.
And that's the weirdest part. She can conjure a perfect illusion of Mayrina, but it can't include the pregnant belly? Or is she just too dumb to think of it? 😂
My head canon is that she doesn’t consider the baby to be Mayrina’s, and her magic accidentally reflects that
or she cast it on Mayrina, and it doesn't affect the baby because it's a different character. Presumably all the Mayrina copies have enlarged empty wombs. Sorry, this line of thinking got weird.
OMG
But in act three, you also can't see the baby bump on the hag.
Well, all of the clones of her are wearing different colored clothes (the real her wears red and the fakes wear yellow, I believe), so I'm in the "she's just stupid" camp.
I always use water to put out the fire on the cage. The real Mayrina will still have the "wet" condition and the hag won't.
You can also inspect her and the clones - the real Ethel has a "Fey Life" tag
Blue robe, red robe.
I was handily beating her ass the other night in Act 3 HM, but I was only trying to knock her out at first to save the kid by cutting him out of her. I KO’d her, saved kid, and then she got rezzed by the mushrooms.
All of a sudden as I’m trying to wipe out all the shrooms. She went from casting rays of sickness (that didn’t poison my party due to Heroes Feast) to having 4 of her clones back to back casting Insect Plagues almost wiping out my whole team. I was in shock by the fourth Insect Plague lmao. It was also made much harder by the fact every single one of her clones went invisible after casting.
I had kind of a cool solution though. I used a level 5 create water spell which basically covered the entire area and gave the clones the “wet” status effect, knocking them out of invis. Then when that wore off and I was getting desperate I used a shock arrow on the water and electrified the entire area. At the start of each hag clones turn they immediately got shocked and disappeared. Was able to then easily locate the real one and blow her to pieces using bombs. Hell of a fight. But also good to know now that I will always be able to find the real hag with this info. Cheers.
Glad you find use for it my friend
Or you kiil her before she vanishes into the fireplace. Much easier, lol.
But I really want her hair, and there is no fireplace in act 3
Hair
Scrip Extender, lol. I mean, there's no reason not to span a little tasty hag hair, she's still there anyway.
And I only mentioned it coz I thought we were discussing easier ways for that battle. Likely for HM to get the golden die, it's good to know some cheesing.
Exactly this.
Real hag is also always the first hag in the turn order
Everybody else isn't just having Shart run around like a deranged kid hopped up on candy (Haste and Action Dash) with spirit guardians to pop everything on the battlefield that isn't real? Girl can't hit the wide side of a barn, but she's great at bumbling into invisible enemies.
Does she not always teleport to that raised platform just by the door to her workshop? I feel like every time I’ve fought her she goes right up there to get jumped by karlach
From my experience ... Normal difficulty, yes. Honor/tactician ... no
If you examine her, her weight is different than the duplicates as well.
Hag is lvl 5, Myrina is lvl 1
Just silence her or stun her and nail her on turn one, seizing initiative via alertness or elixir of vigilance, or silence most of her spawn:). Magic missiles work wonders nailing clones. Silence silences them.
I like to drag her to the druid grove with minor illusion, toot the horn, and trap her behind the gates (they don't open for her).
On my 2nd run and had started using the "Examine" thing in the drop down a lot more often to check resistances and such. I came in ready in Act 1 when she set the cage on fire so quickly tossed a bottle of water on it. When the hag cloned Mayrina and I examined them trying to figure out which was which. The real one was labeled as "wet" from the water and oh boy the hag has words when she can't get tricky with you lol
Eta, the real hag is the only one with the fae life tag too just fyi
You can also right click and inspect and the REAL hag has Fey Ancestry or whatever. The clones do not.
I see all these people using hard ways to identify hag vs Mayrina but...the hag is level 5 and Mayrina is level 1. That's the easiest way to check.
Another fun fact, if you inspect her character model the clones where different color clothing from the OG
Yeah they should have made all of her clones go around her in the initiative order. That would make the whole thing actually work. But now you just send one(1) magic missile into each clone(to prevent them from spamming rays of sickness and hold person) and keep pressing her without distractions
I always create water or throw a water bottle to put out the fire on Mayrina's cage. When she teleports Mayrina out and disguises herself, the real Mayrina still has the "wet" condition. In act 3 any debuff you put on the hag will still be on her but not her clones. I had a hexblade in my party so I just looked for whichever one had the hexblades curse on them.
Or you can use hunter’s mark on her 😁
I just keep killing her.
Cuz she deserves it.
If you throw water into the cage opening at mayrina whenever she uses damsel in distress you can distinguish because mayrina receive the condition "Wet"
Also whenever she turns invisible she tends to not move from where she disappeared from so a solid fireball in that spot should hit
Take her out, feed her mojo pouch to Gale.
You mean the necklace that holds her dead essance? He may have diakoge for that....
He doesn't. The only thing it does is change her dialogue when you use speak to dead after killing her.
If she has it in her inventory she talks shit, if you take it she speaks like a corpse.
The fact I didn't notice this in almost 1000 hours of play brings me shame.
BG3 Player: LOVES the attention to detail that the developers put into the game.
That same BG3 player: Pays NO attention to significant details that help them beat the game.
Glad I could give you some good info my friend :)