Bros being bros
That’s the face of a bro who’s been through this too many times..
Man these animals are so majestic and beautiful.. breaks my heart to see them in captivity.
Nature isn’t exactly a walk in the woods either. Constantly stalked by predators, starvation due to shrinking resources. They very well may be living their best lives where they’re at.
Both lions and tigers are apex predators. I'm sure some captive animals are living their best lives but this enclosure looks incredibly shit, and reputable zoos wouldn't house them together in the first place.
Might not be a zoo, might be a rescue organization who takes big cats from idiots who thought they'd make good pets.
What the hell is stalking a tiger?
Velociraptors?
Humans
Tigers would definitely eat Velociraptors.
There's always a bigger tiger.
They still exist in Africa don't you know? That's where jurassic park is filmed, on the other side of wakanda
Bears and other tigers.
Tiger : “ C’mon, move over bro, nobody likes needy … wait … you seeing this?…Hey, put that camera down”
And at the end, it looks like they're both plotting to kill the woman recording.
She has seen too much
Bromance
If I did the same thing the lion did, I bet the tiger wouldn't react the same... 😏
Yup. Typical sibling behavior.
cutee
Bros being broke
Just two roomates living together. Single and Unmarried.
Well said
Cats being cats.
They are just big cats aren’t they. I feel like I could find a video easily of two normal size house cats doing this exact thing lol
Yeah, one of the things I love about Big Cats is that they are just, well, big cats.
If they wouldn’t kill me by accidentally swiping at me I would love to cuddle with one.
I dont think that swiping would be accidental
Nor is it from a house cat lol
Remember also, that your cat would kill you if it knew it could.
One of my grandma's would try even if didn't know. I'm a cat person, but that creature was a demon in the flesh. But my last cat I don't think would. He loved humans and giving/receiving affection so much. Behaved kind of like a dog.
Big house cats, just more aggressive and territorial
Definitely, mine do this to each other. It’s fun to watch these big guys act the same.
Kitties being kitties
F*ck off, Frank!
But I like your fur, Larry. It’s soft.
Just a normal day in the big cat bro zone.
The lion at the end looking at the woman: "The fuck she just say?"
Wutupshupbyagoweesack
This triggered a replay with sound on. Very accurate btw
What a great cuddle party!
"ORDER UP, 1 LIGER"
Only if the Tiger is a tomboy
Or the lion, there have actually been lionesses who grew manes
but that won't produce a liger but tigon
TIL! I'd heard of ligers but never tigons somehow, had no idea there was a difference.
Can you tell a Tiger's gender?
How can you tell the gender of the tiger? The lion is easy.
Ask it to lower its skirt
Do you ever find yourself wondering what they're thinking? Are they seeing positive past memories of one another? Is it all body language response? Is it some kind of communication beyond these things?
I like to think we can feel good things, people, and places. Are these the same things?
I think they definitely feel more than we give them credit for. That comfort level doesn't just happen there's real connection there.
I know they must have some concept of self, but how far does that radiate? I agree with you, I guess I just wish I could see it from their perspective. It seems silly, but the idea of thinking without words feels surreal
I have seen comments telling some people think without words, that's probably the same.
Some people don't have an inner voice. But I think people with inner voices can also think without it as well.
I'm one of those people! I do not hear an inner voice unless I am actively trying to, otherwise it's best described as "telepathic" in a way. I agree that it's likely something like that!
My father is the same as you, my mom has the voice :)
So when you need to get ready in the morning or think through something complicated, what exactly do you experience? I have an inner monologue, but I wouldn’t call it a voice even though that’s the term for it. Do you not talk through it in your head?
That's my question as well. I thought I had an inner voice,but it hits my brain as a fully formed thought... Do I not have an inner voice?!
mine is in actual words, talk talk talkin away
I always felt like the no inner voice vs yes inner voice and aphantasia vs people with imaginations were still experiencing generally the same things, just not communicating it well. I'd refer to my inner monologue as a voice but really it's more like my mind taking abstract thoughts and organizing them into actual language, I "feel" it more than I "hear" it.
Did your teachers ever tell you to close your eyes and imagine you’re at a beach, or something along those lines? I didn’t realize till I was a lot older that kids would actually visualize it when they closed their eyes, so I didn’t know why they’d get annoyed when students wouldn’t close them.
I can't shut mine up unless I'm drunk.
Same, and cocaine
Is cocaine the strat to get rid of mine? My inner voice is holding me back I think.
No, the correct way is to develop mental skills.
Just like lifting weights, you can train your brain to be quiet.
But it takes time, effort and is uncomfortable, so usually people try the easy way of drugs.
But.. drugs stress the body, and when the body is in stress, the inner voices starts being a real pain in the ass. So you take more and more and then.. you just feel bad.
So the question is as always... which path do you take?
A) You take the shortcut - You become an addict and keep on suffering in many ways. B) You invest in yourself - You become a master in controling your thoughts, emotions and behavior and become happy, peaceful and content.
Think wisely... may the force be with you.
I don't have one either, I only hear a voice when I'm writing like right now lol.
The older I grew the more mortified I became when I realized the voice never stopped talking.
My inner voice stops when instinct kicks in, like reflexes while driving or playing sports.
But I have yet to learn how to think without it on my own.
Also distinct but related to an inner voice is mental imaging too. Like if i say red apple youll probably think of something between a grey circle and a vivid red apple. Some people just dont have that at all. But oddly enough still experience imagery in dreams.
That sorta thing is pretty nebulous anyways. Unless you mean people actively have an inner voice that is as loud and clear as your mind's voice as you're reading this.
My mind's just an ocean of pictures, sounds, smells and stuff dips in and out of the surface. Sometimes there's a faint whisper of a voice outlining a thought or forming a sentence, but I don't have a narrator sitting on standby to mediate my thoughts.
You know when you get suddenly woken up from a deep sleep and all your higher brain functions like math and language don't work? That's how I imagine animals think.
Most animals are actually very smart at the specific things they need to do to survive. Birds know to migrate and how to get there and back. Squirrels understand that they need to save food for the winter.
Humans just have comparatively giant brains that are more capable of expanding thoughts beyond just basic survival needs.
Sometimes not for their benefit
I love this description! I imagine it's a lot like how we humans are when we are extremely sleep deprived/falling into sleep. Can't talk anymore can't think anymore, only base concepts and instinctual/reactive actions remain, like "need sleep", "feel safe", "not hungry", etc.
We live our lives in a very internal way, creating new stimuli within our heads and reacting behaviorally to them all whilst our body remains still, using our power for abstract thought. I don't believe animals have that. I think animals are attuned to their physical environments and live much more behaviorally than we do.
That's why I can't agree with concepts like "the internet has gone too far, we need to return to monkey". I mean, yeah, to an extent? Ignoring our physical environment is stupid, we definitely need to fix that. But humans are meant to do this, to exist in an abstract space, in the world of intellect and of complex emotions and of self-reflection. I think it's natural for us
the idea of thinking without words feels surreal
Laughs in purple
Saw a video on Reddit a while back. A family saved an abandoned cheetah, and then once it matured, they released him bcs keeping it indoors would retard his growth.
He came back at their front door the next day.
I'd like to think that they hold fondness towards familiar things that surrounds them.
I also read that dogs knows that we are different beings than themselves, cats however see us as a hairless odd shaped body version of themselves. That's why we often see cats groomed people, they see us as equals beings. That being said, in this clip, the tiger sees the lion as nothing but a stripeless version of himself, even when in reality they belong to two different sub species
It is amazing how they communicate with one another using just their facial expressions, and without uttering a single word; and it's not just these animals, many animals like dogs use them too while communicating with humans or other dogs.
The language of nature is energy. How can most modern ppl understand? Like have you ever been stared at and you immediately turn around to look at them? Vice versa? Its a different kind of knowing and speaking.
So this is something I think about in regards to Cyclosa spiders, the spiders that make a large decoy of themselves in their webs to scare off predators. Are they just instinctually arranging debris in that shape or do they conceptually understand what a spider is/looks like? Do they know what they look like?
Similarly I love doing slight of hand tricks with my dog, his reaction when his treat or bone just "disappears" is hysterical and enthusiastic and I have to learn new tricks because he'll sniff out where I hide the treat eventually and he'll start to recognize what I'm doing and immediately knows where the treat is to the point that I can trick him by only pretending to trick him
It's not possible to really assess the cognitive abilities of animals in captivity, as they are probably suffering from a number of mental health issues due to all the trauma.
Their existence is unnatural and they can't do things like they would like to. There are probably a host of behavioral issues and some cognitive decline.
No matter how great we think they have it, it's never going to be a life that caters to their actual needs and wants. Anyone who thinks this is better than living in the wild should try to imagine a life like that. We would consider it inhumane, abusive, traumatizing beyond repair.
I think the best comparison we can draw is to when we were toddlers. But as most of us don't remember much from that time, we're still stuck wondering.
I for one am sure that mammals in general have memories popping up, since they clearly dream specific things and have good memories.
Before humans spoke we probably acted in the same way, grunts and non-verbal cues
We think without words all the time.
There are actually people who don’t have an internal dialogue.
It blows my mind!
Me, I have pretty much endless chatter, in Danish and English, and quite a few “voices”.
They feel as much as we do. They think as much as we do, in their own ways and their own capacity.
I’ve always been amazed at non-human interactions. There’s so many videos out there of creatures reacting in ways that directly contradict the “genetically designed behavior”. I think animals and insects have a deep seated fight or flight thought structure that shuts off when they feel content and safe. If I were one of the billionaires my hobby would be ocean exploration and brain scanning and transcribing. “Read animals thoughts”. Wouldn’t people want to “talk” with their pets? Wouldn’t people want to hear what circus bears have to say? Are the seaworld dolphins really depressed or just sick from being in too small of a space and stress?
Try shrooms, you'll start thinking in ideas, I bet it's similar to what those animals feel.
If they don’t have language then their version of thoughts must be so different. Like in experience to the creature not that they aren’t complex or identifiable.
Lion: “I love you so much man!”
Tiger: “Not the face! Not the face!”
Lion: “I really do”
Tiger: “we’re out in public! Have you no shame?”
Lion: “beautiful day, isn’t it?
Tiger: “yes, yes it is”
Those raw, primitive emotions that humans have? Other mammals have those too to varying degrees. Our consciousness makes up stories that we tell ourselves about our feelings and actions, but for the most part they're all pretty instinctive and occur on an unconscious level. We're not so different from these cats.
The first two in combination become "socialization", which is the third thing.
Animals becoming socialized among other animals of a different species is something that happens regularly in the wild.
A wild tiger would tear apart any big cat getting that close unless it was mating season. The only way a lion cuddles with a tiger like that is by being socialized together from a young age.
Edit: and to be clear this is more or less how lions behave with each other in the wild. They're much more social creatures than tigers
"mmm snuggles" and "can you not"
It's a cat. Cats love to do that thing where they get close and half fall on you.
Simple as
Tigers are solitary whereas lions love company. You won't be seeing a tiger plop down on top of a lion.
Tigers in captivity, like all animals in captivity, have different behaviors. They're a lot more comfortable with company than a wild tiger.
You very well could. There are plenty of videos of tigers forming bonds with humans and getting excited to be around them. There's no reason that can't happen with a lion. Hell, maybe this specific tiger has plopped on top of this specific lion before. It seems entirely plausible to me.
Those are the rare exceptions though. Naturally it's as the person above said, tigers like most cats are solitary and only meet for mating and territorial disputes while lions live in social groups, so it's entirely plausible that in the clips case it's the lion that actively seeks the interaction while the tiger merely tolerates it.
All im getting is that lions don’t fall under “most cats” and it’s thoroughly changed my view of the Serengeti and I’m part tiger and my gf is part lion when she has cold limbs.
The weird part is these two animals don't even share the same habitats in the wild, but they both seem to realize they're just big cats.
Lion: “let’s cuddle”
Tiger: “we’re out in public!”
Lion: “I love you so much, man”
Tiger: “not the face! Not the face!”
Lion: “beautiful day, isn’t it?”
Tiger: “yes, it is”
I do! All the time. I like to personify them and say they're doing what I'd do, and acting human like, but I really do wonder what's behind it all.
Lions are huggers- tigers are loners.... Rights?
Pretty much lions are pack animals so they do a lot of social activities like playing and cleaning together. Tigers are solitary animals so they wouldn’t be used to other cats being around them
Isn't this kind of odd then?
Maybe not for captivity, if they were raised together, with ample resources in a small space, they might just have never gone through whatever developmental response leads tigers to go solo.
Yeah the tiger is “annoyed”. But doesn’t look stressed in the slightest.
Yes, that is why there is the funny reaction. They are clearly keept together in some kind of enclosure.
These cats share an enclosure so act differently than wild animals.
I’m not an expert but I imagine tigers still keep some social behaviours because of their mothers and for mating.
I think it’s lefty loosy, righty tighty.
This is Bob. Bob loves his personal space.
This is Larry. Larry also loves Bob's personal space.
Came here to make a liger joke but you beat me to it.
Bred for its skills in magic.
Damn the same…lol
where is this from?
Napoleon Dynamite
This shit right here 😆😆😆🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Everybody wants love.
Not the bengal 🐯 today
This lion is one head-nudge away from asking the tiger to move in.
Tigers are generally solitary animals, unlike lions who are quite social!
Makes me wonder if this is stressful for the tiger
they're not in the wild so it's probably just a bit annoying
Wasn’t this facing the other direction last time it was posted?
Gotta love the karma video fliparooni
A week ago? Yeah.
If you think about it, a mirror is the ultimate repost
PERSONAL SPACE!
1 personal space, 2 personal space, 3 stay outta my personal space!
But I loves you!
Extrovert vs Introvert
Oh please... please please please someone tell me there's a bear in there.
There's a bear in there.
Oh my
At the end when the camerawoman speaks and laughs they both look over at her and seem to be saying "shut up Linda no one is asking you!" with their eyes
Exactly, the lion seems to give the impression that she completely spoiled the moment.
Honestly she did but at least we got a good 20 seconds
They remind me of my 2 rescue mini Black Panthers, both girls. They take turns seeing how much they can annoy the other, all whilst under the guise of, “Look how sweet I am, bathing my sister.” Then one will chomp down on the other, & the chase will commence. “…Sisters, sisters, there were never such devoted sisters…” (for those of us a little older in the group, or those fond of classic old movies😊).
"Lord help the mister who comes between me and my sister...."
“…and Lord help the sister, who comes between me and my man!”
Lions are social animals living in groups called prides and have very social bonds, while tigers are solitary animals only seeking others for reproductive purposes. So yeah, the tiger didn't like it.
Feline fine, in their lane, thriving
Cats gonna cat
The lion's young, he doesn't care about the color of the stripes. He just wants to be friends with everyone
❤️. Beautiful!
Just two bros
Gangster recognizes gangster.
Cats are cats, no matter the size
Kitties*
It looks like the lion is definitely smirking at how annoying it’s being.
The gay lion cheating on the other gay lion after disembarking from the ark
Gayyy
so cute
They become friends afterwards?
“Let me love yoooooou.” - Lion
I love the big lion yawn on brother tigers face - “you know you love me!”
A solitary cat being forced to interact with a cat who thrives in a group. So you know, an introvert and an extrovert.
The tiger is majorly annoyed here. He just wants to sit in peace, haha.
Who's ur daddy?.
Beautiful!
I need to show my dog this video, that yawn is palpable 😂
That zoo keeper was delicious, thank you.
Big cats acting like house cats!
Just cats being cats.
They’re plotting in the end. Watch your back zookeepers.
Reminds me of this place my wife and I used to go that had a lion, tiger, and bear that were all raised together by a drug dealer in ATL, seized, and thankfully kept together. They've all passed now, sadly. It was an amazing sight to see.
Catz 'r' Catz
Hes never known such love. Hell probably grow to love it
Can’t wait see the ligers or tigons
Brokeback mountain
Next edition: Liger
This is how Ligers are made
Angy
Cats being cats
Let me tell you about my BEST FRIEND!
Looks like Shere Khan and Mufasa were best buddies once.
They’re really all the fucking same. Some are large and wild, some small and domesticated… but cats are cats
That’s either a big tiger or a less than average size lion
It is good when good is found in the world..
A form of "scissoring".
Lion: Dog software in cat hardware
Tigers are solitary animals. Lions are not.
These are bros right here
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