CHIBears
The End of an Era
The Losing Era
Ted Phillips failed this team for decades and operated with zero accountability for his results. I don’t know if Warren is the guy, but he can’t do worse than Phillips.
During the Warren era the results on the field have still been bad but one of the things that is different is that the Bears are finally investing in their leadership/coaches.
Phillips would’ve hired McCarthy this offseason or someone a lot cheaper than BJ.
Warren not only hires BJ but he also gets Dennis Allen as well as Bieniemy , Randle El, and Al Harris. These are not guys taken off the scrap heap like Phillips would’ve hired, these are well respected coaches. I know the HC hires the assistant coaches, but to an extent, I don’t remember the check book being this open in the under Ted Phillips.
The wins might not be easy to come by this year but you cannot argue with the process. This team is on the rise and my prediction is that over the next decade this team will be more consistently competitive and reach higher highs than they have in the last 3 decades.
Bear Down
Discussion
Can we finish a couple seasons above .500 before we start talking like this?
Or even one?
Offseason is for koolaid chugging.
There hasn’t been a post in this sub in two days, if there’s a time for koolaid it’s now
Speaking of which, what happened to the guy who used to make a post every day starting at 99 days from the first game of the season with a player's number representing the amount of days left?
RIP
avoid the bears ig account for your own sake. I got tricked hard in 2021/2022
Amen.
So I completely get what you’re saying and don’t disagree. However, for the first time in a long time the Bears actually did they’re supposed to do instead of trying to think they’re out smarting everyone. If this fails they didn’t do it on their own and every other team would’ve tried it.
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Asked and answered. Go bears
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I hate the off-season. I can't wait to start talking about actual games again instead of this pointless crap.
I love koolaide too
It’s a perfect blend of blue and orange.
Warren is a business guy and cares about making money decisions but he also knows that to make money you need to have a good product on the field to do it. He seems to have a spend money to make money mindset while Phillips was a penny pincher.
Every time we say "We can't do worse than this guy" a worse guy takes his place.
C'mon get real... Ted hiring McCarthy? Ted would've found a guy from the UFL to be the next creative and up and coming coach to HC the bears.
I will believe it when I see it. It's gonna take more than one season as well. There are still so many questions about this team. Yes the coaching staff looks better but that doesnt mean anything until we see this team compete. I want to see consistency. I don't want to see another 30 years with only 8 winning seasons.
“He can’t do worse than Phillips.” Are you new here?
Ted Phillips was gone 3 years ago. So the era ended then.
Attributing the assistant coaches to KW is a stretch. These are all Ben Johnson hires. Poles and Warren need to give their HC the latitude to do as he sees fit. I have no reason to believe Phillips didn't do that previously. He wasn't a football guy. He got the job by spearheading the soldier field renovation. Which is pretty wild considering that boondoggle has led them to wanting something nice.
Kevin Warren is here to do what Phillips did 25 years ago stadium wise. The whole lakefront/Arlington/elsewhere now all posturing. And Warren has done a pretty crap job in getting anything done. Unless there's behind the scenes stuff that nobody knows about. Otherwise things have gone no where.
Shovels in the ground by 2025! Meanwhile we still dont know when we are gonna build the darn stadium. The only thing warren has done is getting into pissing matches with mayor's and governers while collecting a paycheck and laughing at us while drinking caymus
Technically you are right about the timing of the era, I was referencing the losing being over. But don’t get me wrong they could still lose but it won’t be because of the coaches and my overall point was about them being consistently competitive.
BJ doesn’t get hired without Warren telling the McCaskeys this is the guy. BJ is luring these coaches to Chicago with a title and money both through Warren. A stretch yes but Warren and his influence are a part of this process and at least what I’ve seen in the media Warren seems like type of guy that feels he’s gotta be a part of everything.
100% on the stadium.
Eh, BJ was pretty much the entire league’s favorite candidate. You’re vastly overestimating how much assistant coaches give about the team president. Money would have to be approved by the McCaskeys anyway
I don't think the OP is wrong though. Kevin Warren has clearly changed how things are run. Even if the Bears haven't been the cheapest owners in the league when it comes to spending on staff they were never paying top dollar. This year they did.
As disgusting as it sounds, I think Waldron was one of the higher paid OC's last season. They fired him midway through his first season. Warren pushed to allow the firing of Flus during the season.
Warren has certainly changed some of the things around the football side of things. I think for the better. We can say they should have had the foresight to have not put themselves in those positions but they are slowly getting with the times.
Fair, but I still don’t remember Phillips hiring the top candidate. Oh no, wait a minute, he did hire Trestman who was a highly respected coach in the league, the Canadian Football League.
Trestman was a left field hire. He was run out of the NFL cuz teams realized how weird he was.
It could absolutely be because of the coaches. Remember when everyone was excited about Shane Waldron?
I got where you’re coming from, don’t let these downvote clowns keep you down. Lol
At the very least we can see the bears are willing to spend and compete for coaching talent. And while that doesn’t and hasn’t translated to wins but it does mean something, that they are willing to be aggressive. KW appears to be a factor in the change.
OP doesn't understand a lot of what goes on in Halas Hall
Kevin Warren is a penis
I pronounced this in my mind as “P-Heenisss.”
Those days are gone unfortunately
As every year for the past few years.... on paper it looks good
It can always be worse
It’s the Bears, Browns, and Jets, kinda splitting hairs here. Also, if you’re not first your last
This is how Bulls fans were talking when we got AK and now look at us
Ted Philips was an accountant turned president because he was a yes man. Warren became president because he’s also a yes man whose supervisors in Minnesota got a stadium deal done when he had no involvement.
Bears are a poverty franchise with the mccaskeys at the helm
Your last name is McCasky, isn’t it?
Agreed. Warren should have been hired before 1. Purchase of Arlington Park. 2. hiring of Poles. Much clean up to do. I am sure at end of 23 his discussion with George was to fire Eberflus. George said No. Kevin said I'll be back sooner rather than later boss. Good News is Johnson has been a HC in training for at least 2 years now. But nothing beats experience. Looking forward to assessment at bye week.
Agreed, this team is going to be very good this year. I’m just concerned about the edge rush opposite of Sweat, we have good players, but no one who is shown to be a beast, which makes this Dennis Allen defense Go, and running back,Swift is good, but no the Home Run hitting type which will make this offense unstoppable
Agreed. The Bears have ALWAYS been notoriously cheap. I feel like the old guard has passed on and the current family members actually want to be a modern winning NFL franchise. Winning won't be automatic but fans can feel that cheap losing mentality grip has finally loosened.
I agree the team culture is on the rise. BJ brings vision and accountability. There are skill gaps but I think this team wins 8-9 games this season and makes the playoffs the next season. Caleb just has to be good, not great. Play within the system and improve his accuracy. Next year we grab a stud edge and RB and keep building the trenches.
No way Johnson is a coach with Chicago if Ted Philips is here. We all know sweaty teddy and George got bricked up after hearing the HITS principle and strongly leaned poles to hire dipshit. Those two have been the problem for far too long. Good riddance to Philips, if I’d ever see him in public I’d spit in his fat fucking face
Warren came in after (sorry. I’m drunk what the fuck was the guy’s name after Nagy, I’m seriously drawing a blank). Eberflus. Warren was brought in after Eberflus. Eberflus was fired after Warren and Poles went to the George and said we can’t continue with this guy. You can’t tell me the team fired a HC midseason, which they’d never done before, but they would’ve fired flus prior to the season if Warren and Poles had confidence in him. Sorry if I’m not making much sense. Ben Johnson or bust, I have no faith in Poles or Warren. Caleb, I do believe you will lead us to the promised land, the 8-peat. Bear down. Happy fourth.
After rereading this, hang one of those Old Style bar signs over my head and ignore me till tomorrow when I wake up on your lawn. I have no idea what I was trying to say. Ask me tomorrow.
I figured it out. Warren and Poles BOTH decided Flus deserved another season to evaluate. That piss poor evaluation as well as the hiring of Waldron is on their head equally as much as the hiring of Ben Johnson. The Ben Johnson hire was everybody's first choice. Just a matter if ownership was willing to sign a blank check for a BJ.
Haha I’m happy you wrote it, it definitely made me laugh!
But like I said, I don’t know that Warren is the guy and we will never really know who had the most influence in these decisions but this process, approach, and willingness to spend it different than anything we’ve seen under Phillips era and I my prediction is that it yields better results.
But... We are winning super bowl this year right!? Right? Go Go bears! Let's all hope
well, i guess i have nothing else to read
I'm just worried that CW our best shot in a long time to be our guy, will peak near Cutty. Not due to anything he can control but due to the ineptitude that has been us.
I agree with that, and I’m happy they got Johnson, but to proclaim the end of an era and say this team is going to reach some of its highest highs is just typical kool aid. Obviously that’s the hope, but we really don’t know anything.
It starts at the top and the biggest problem holding us back continues to be the McCaskeys.
I’ve always said Virginia held the purse strings too tightly. I’m willing to give Ted a partial pass. BEAR DOWN!
I can't wait for Aaron Rodgers to own you guys once again this season. Also why does EVERY new head coach the Bears hire feel the need to take shots at Green Bay? It hasn't worked out in the past, I don't know why they keep setting themselves up to be the punchline. Also you've guys have had a lot of quality offensive head coach hires that crashed and burned. I'll believe this is different when I actually see it. 🤷🏼♂️😂
Ok, but you have a low standard for “quality” if you think Trestman and Naggy are it.
Just a prediction
The Losing Era is over when we start winning. Hell, I thought the losing era was over after 2018 and we saw what happened with that.
I'm not going to shit the optimists. Its fun to let the hype take over, so I completely get it. I'm a battered Bears fan and I don't want to be hurt again lol
I'm right there with you.
I do have faith in Ben Johnson overall, so I think the bar will end up being raised a bit. But still, I'll believe it when I see it.