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Ford SOHC 4.0 timing chain guide failure, is engine still reusable?

Ford SOHC 4.0 timing chain guide failure, is engine still reusable?

So in good old ford fashion, the timing chain guides broke on my 2003 ranger 4.0. Truck was still running fine without any rattle, timing has not jumped. I only noticed it failed when I dropped the oil pan and found the guides in it. The broken guides don’t concern me too much because they are replaceable. What does concern me is this grinded down bolt. The guide is supposed to be held in place by that bolt, but since it broke off, the chain was riding along the bolt. Did not notice any significant metal shavings in the pan or oil filter, camshafts are still mint. I still need to check the rod bearings. Based on how much metal has been grinded off this bolt, would you still reuse this motor?

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Icy_East_2162

If it hadn't skipped teeth / valve timing -and avoided bent valves , after further inspection as you say -Bearing/ s. condition ,No damage and good oil pressure ,Doing the job yourself ,you and your skill and knowledge,should answer your question , How is the rest of the engine ,How many miles on it , Do you take a punt ,Or do you not

1 day ago
SorryU812

Yes reusable.

Is it the front chain guide or the rear chain guide?

20 hours ago
TheIronHerobrine OP

Thank you. This is the rear chain guide. Front chain guide also failed but not as bad as the rear.

19 hours ago
SorryU812

I was a gasoline drivability senior master technician at Ford(technicians are specialized to a single field). I hated heavy line work, but I hated working on these in the vehicle even worse. I'd often have to repair a previous bad install of the rear tensioner. I'd pull the engine to lesson the frustration. Just my 2 cents.

16 hours ago
TheIronHerobrine OP

Sorry I should mention the engine is already out. I meant to upload more pictures but either something went wrong in the upload or I forgot to attach them. I’m wondering how often do you see the chain grind that bolt down?

15 hours ago
SorryU812

Cool then get the OTC kit and get to work. Good job👍

9 hours ago
TheIronHerobrine OP

Yes I have the OTC kit. I was so adamant on not using it at first, but I found it for very cheap on marketplace so had to grab it lol.

8 hours ago
SorryU812

You'll be glad you got it.

5 hours ago
TheIronHerobrine OP

I think i will too. Seems ford made this engine way more complicated than it needs to be as a way of saving a few dollars. Even my benzes have much simpler and more effective timing setups.

5 hours ago
SorryU812

Speculation of engine design is a bad idea. Just a heads up. Personally I try to only speak on things I know.

I worked for Ford for 17 years and retired a Senior Master Automotive and Diesel Technician. Knowledge is power.

5 hours ago
TheIronHerobrine OP

Well I am not wrong. I am an engineer, I can understand the decisions they made. Both cylinder heads are cast the same, which saves them a lot of money. Of course though, because of this they needed to flip one around for the spark plugs and exhaust manifold to be on the outside, which is why there is a jack shaft and rear timing chain. If the two cylinder heads were different, there would be only one timing chain + the occasional balance shaft. But they were under lots of pressure to make an affordable truck/maximize profit.

5 hours ago