AYY I JUST WOKE UP WTF
Omg same what happened
I was about to go to sleep
It's lunch hour here and same, wtf
Im going to sleep and my mind its going to go boom rn
Wait, so the Statue in Inazuma City might be Ronova?! The wings with the eyes!
Also Staff of Homa
And the battle pass symbol, hello?
Now that comes with another question. Why the fuck did the Shogun build a statue with Ronova's image?
It was the Shogun and not Ei, I believe (?)
Ronova is the god of death. Maybe she wants to worship Ronova so that her people don't die?
Renova allowing EI the ability to seal vision ability
That's what I was thinking too!
Ronova’s “Wings” look awfully familiar.
INAZUMA ARC ON THE WAY
Maybe we find out what happened to the Electro Sovereign too.
And who killed makoto
Weren't she killed by the abyss during the cataclysm?
yeah but we don't really have any other details about her death, other than that ei found her dead and also saw some sort of 'thing'
i do wonder if that 'thing' was actually ronova
Wait, didn't Makoto die in battle? I don't remember any lore hinting that someone specifically targeted her during the Cataclysm.
Homa is a funerary staff from ancient times, used to purify evil and the restless dead, so it's definitely based on her imagery.
Oh, you’re right, the Homa Staff evokes the same image too.
Ashikai did a video on all the appearances of the Homa symbolism in Genshin, it comes up a LOT. Pretty interesting watch especially with this latest addition
Once again, it is time to embark on the Path of Erudition, thank you for telling me
Inazuma statue and the Staff of Homa
Funny that a couple weeks ago we got people saying the statue in Inazuma was definitely Ei when someone asked who it was supposed to be.
Aged like Milk those comments did.
Lore theorists being vindicated after Natlan’s AQ.
Lore Theorists gonna be doing victory laps around everyone if this keeps up.
So me putting staff on homa on my raiden is in fact lore accurate
Sure Hoyo just drop a massive lore video and reveal all the Shades as well as officially confirming Asmoday’s name on a random ass Tuesday with nor forewarning
Hoyo: damn I'm bored... Staffs, drop the LORE
Early summer midweek days and massive Genshin lore drops - name a more iconic duo.
After all, that's how we learned about/first saw each of the Fatui members back in the day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmaAOV4SJNQ
TwoThree years ago almost to the day.
It's funny Asmodays name has been datamined for years and this is the first time after more than half a decade it's officially spoken
I actually forgot it wasn't official until now. Feels surreal
On one side - Kaveh’s birthday. On the other - biggest lore drop so far. Cuz why not)
Incorrect: it is a Wednesday
…my Dudes!
aaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Anyday in July could be a lore dropday and it had been like that since 2022.
ON A RANDOM ASS WEDNESDAY??
For Bison some of us, it's still Tuesday.
Another lorebomb just dropped. It’s nice to hear the Jester’s voice again
Okay it's happening, everybody stay calm
I'M COMPLETELY CALM
WHAT DO YOU MEAN
They always put the heaviest drink on our table without a warning lmao.
Nope , this time they unload the whole bottle of Everclear into our throats.
That's the fun part
WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING
WHY IS ALBEDO'S MOM SO FREAKING PRETTY
um ackshually
that's Naberius' body, Gold simply... hijacked? became one? with her
Ah, understood, lemme correct that then:
WHY IS ALBEDO'S MOM HIJACKING PRETTY WOMEN
WHO WOULDN'T HIJAKING PRETTY WOMAN IF THEY COULD
Actually, we see Naberius's body near the start of the trailer while the old lady is telling her story, and she had blue hair. The blonde is probably Rhinedottir's body.
Playerbase: Genshin is falling off. Nod Krai filler year.
Hoyo: Filler? I hardly know her. Also btw check youtube.
We just got the forms of the 4 shades with no prior notice.
And they are making their move in Nod-Krai.
Typical genshin shenanigans.
Major Winter's Night Lazzo vibes of "anyway, lore and characters jumpscare. Eat, my children."
Good call from you to put a comma where it should be.
A Winter's nigh lazzo vibes
Honestly I've never been a subscriber to the theory that Paimon is Asmoday, but that talk about her kinda convincing me of it
I passed out 3 times while watching the teaser
Just saw someone pass out 3 times while watching the teaser
4th’s time the charm.
i can handle 3min teaser but 9min???
i nutted
Pls take the time to re-hydrate yourselves
Jesus Christ this came out of nowhere.
Final and firm confirmation that the Sustainer is the Shade of Space and the name Asmoday finally said in-canon and not just gamefiles. Seeing the other Shades, Rhinedottir and more.
Rhinedottir's creation at the start was a remade Andersdottir, the author and mother of mini Durin. Same VA from the Witch's Tea Party cutscene.
Ronova has the Homa wings. Pierro is spying on her and the Shades in a meeting.
Asmoday is "corrupting" spaces and might have "switched sides" and a "new master". Setting up big baddie vibes here.
Shades aware of Tsaritsa's plans and deciding to step in as much as they can within the rules.
Pierro's monologue suggesting the Heavenly Principles might be male. "What is the price of killing a god. The god stays silent, as if the thought had never once crossed his mind". Kevin/Phainon expy incoming.
Paimon = Asmoday stock is rising.
"Switch sides" is really spelling it out for us at this point.
Ohhhh you're right! I thought they dropped that to reveal later that we'll see her in Nod-Krai with her new master, but if she does turn iut to be Paimon, that line would make sense 👀‼️
Oh wait. That's true.
Remember guys Genshin's habit in story quests, the person we meet at the beginning is usually the villain at the end. In the whole story sense, we met Paimon at the beginning, and let's say not villain, but she can be the God, hence Asmoday we have been searching all along
Everything checks out. HOLYYYYY
There also this quote from mualani quest that keep nagging me, she says "If the goal of the journey is to reach its end, then you should not have leave the house to begin with"
Traveler goal at first was to find unkown god that separated them. I feel like is some kind foreshadowing for traveler or something because maybe his goal is already been there with him all along
Paimon or Columbina are my two top picks right now on what happened to Asmoday
I doubt it. Paimon was there when Ronova was judging Mavuika/Capitano. With some many eyes, she couldn't miss Paimon if she was Asmoday.
I mean she missed that Pierro was staring at her.
There's many occurrences in Genshin where expending large amounts of power results in an individual regressing, losing memories, and/or shrinking. If Asmoday burned most of her power to join the Traveller she might have regressed into Paimon and be unaware of it.
"Unless.. she loves her new master more than her own self." PAIMON?:D?
Edit with more dishes from the kitchen: Asmoday reborn as Paimon, new master is the traveller (Hence why she is 'missing' cause she is travelling with us). Paimon can eat a lot but the food is not digested => Can store as many food as she want cause she is god of space => Emergency Food, can vomit whatever food you need
She also able to disappear during gameplay maybe into a little pocket dimension since she can manipulate space??!
what if the Traveler can use teleport waypoints because Paimon is with her?
Either Asmoday and her 'new master' are the other big bads here, oooorrrrrr.......... They might be walking under our noses since Day 1. With Asmoday even changing her name to reflect her loyalty to the lightbringer.
Either
AsmodayPaimon andher 'new master'the Traveler.
FTFY
Only correction I'll make is they specifically say the 'Heavenly Principles isn't awoken yet' meaning the real Heavenly Principles is most likely the Primordial One.
Asmoday might believe that since shes a shadow of them that she serves their will. And that means she might as well be them.
That's my guess anyway
Ronova has the Homa wings.
They also resemble Raidens statue of eternity...has she seen her before?
Pierro's monologue suggesting the Heavenly Principles might be male. "What is the price of killing a god. The god stays silent, as if the thought had never once crossed his mind". Kevin/Phainon expy incoming.
Don't place too much stock on EN translations here.
The crimson moon appears in the planes of euthymia so shes probably borrowed some her power similar to Mavuika
They also resemble Raidens statue of eternity...has she seen her before?
When Raiden saw the aftermath of Khaenri'ah getting nuked.
Hoyo says it’s Kevin time for everyone! /j
You joke, and yet…
I mean yeah what I said is a joke but I am still betting good money on Phanes being a Kevin variant. His and the shades actions line up with Kevin’s tendency to do morally reprehensible soul crushing actions for the sake of the greater good
Good time to remember that the Traveler's character card was neither introduced to us by Dainsleif nor Alice, but by an unknown character known as "K.K."
Kevin
Kaslana
perhaps?
And the teaser dropped on the same update HSR gave a big bomb regarding their very own playable Kevin... including a very divine-looking alternate form....
Jesus Christ this came out of nowhere.
Yeah I literally thought the next marketing video would be nod-krai like drip marketing of the playables.
Hoyo be like: Wanna see me drop insane lore again
What If: Phainon defeated Lygus and recreate a new world without blacktide.
WTH HOYO DON'T SURPRISE US LIKE THAT HOLY THIS IS BIG
r/Genshin_Lore WE ARE EATING GOOD THIS DAY
THIS HAS TO BE THE BIGGEST LORE BOMB EVER DROPPED ALL AT ONCE.
Paimon is for sure Asmonday or at least an aspect of her
Gouba themed gods
If this is the case, is it us, the traveller, they referred to as her master? 👀
That is indeed one of the top speculations
It's so weird how we know close to nothing about her backstory and mere existence. It is clear that they are keeping something huge from us.
They are watching our every move. Maybe to avoid a voyager problem again.
what the everlasting fuck
Holy shit. This came out of nowhere, but a pleasant surprise. (I was expecting a ZZZ trailer today).
Three main takeaways from this. One, Rhinne became a new Shade and has essentially inherited Naberius' position and duty. Two, Columbina is acting on her own, and the Fatui's main mission in Nod Krai is to "retrieve" her, whatever that means. Three, Asmoday (the Unknown God) is missing, and likely not on the Heavenly Principles' side because she "loves her new master".
Three kinda almost confirms the long running theory that Paimon is indeed Asmoday because she's the only actual candidate. Same colour scheme, same design principles, a new "master" (the Traveller). The question remains why she became that way, and why she decided to side with the Traveller after tearing the siblings apart.
Yeah that’s what I’m thinking too. Either they are setting up Asmoday to be a big bad of some kind or she’s Paimon. There really aren’t any other options
I mean Enjou already kinda hinted that she might betray us, but I was always inclined to believe that at the end of our journey in Teyvat, Paimon will sacrifice herself for us.
That's why I've been adamant on Hoyo making Paimon more likeable by having the Traveller actually interact with her like how they do in the Traveller's voiceline. I like Paimon and the Traveller's interactions, but the Traveller not being voiced does hold it back a lot.
To be fair they have been giving the Traveler more voiced lines recently. Not as much as the Trailblazer and especially not the Proxy twins but still more… not that EN players would have noticed
Yeah, but that's between characters, not with Paimon. I would like it if they did just a little bit more and sprinkle in some voiced interactions with Paimon as well.
People have been saying Asmoday is Paimon. This post is from 4 years ago
At the very least, I think Paimon is a piece or remnant of Asmoday
Three kinda almost confirms the long running theory that Paimon is indeed Asmoday because she's the only actual candidate. Same colour scheme, same design principles, a new "master" (the Traveller). The question remains why she became that way, and why she decided to side with the Traveller after tearing the siblings apart.
Its interesting because they make it sound like they dont know where she is, but their also think she's 'switched sides'. So it follows they don't know for sure shes following a new master. Kind of a tongue in cheek way of referring to us either way though
They also mentioned Asmoday leaving behind a bunch of corrupted spaces... that kind of implies that she was corrupted at some point? And also yeah why did she do what she did at the beginning of the game? Was it not actually the Will of the Shades as a whole? Was she just acting on her own?
I mean, functionally speaking, the Traveler could be Asmoday's 'new master' if she's actually Paimon. That'd fit the discussion by the shadows, though it's weird if that's the case that they don't know where she is.
Perhaps Paimon is the result of regression from exhausting powers or going into deep sleep.
We have a few examples already. Global used to be a gigachad stove god but sacrificed his powers during thr archon war to save Liyue and went into Slumber, resulting in physical and mental regression.
Rukkhadevata expended what remained of her powers to create the akasha system and was regressed in thr form of Nahida, although Nahida is a separate branch of Irminsul, but Rukkhadevata was once had an older appearance but she experienced like physical regression.
You know what that could mean? Asmoday may have physically and mentally regressed into Paimon. Would be incredibly poetic if the shade that stopped Traveler at the beginning of the game ends up regressing into the fairy that is now best friends with Traveler. Maybe that explains how she knows Traveler came in within space ship. Cuz she is Asmoday, but probably with amnesia that came with the regression.
Would explain the similarities between Paimon and Traveler and how she basically prevents Traveler from going out of bounds. She controls thr space Traveler is and isn't allowed to travel. But she can somehow pause time in game too. Either way, could totally see Asmoday having regressed or exhausted her powers and shrinking into Paimon. I wonder if Asmoday might have exhausted her powers sealing the twin. The twin did become a vessel of abyssal power before that power got divided up between the Sinners. And the HP are pretty allergic to abyssal power so imagine repercussions of sealing someone that housed a tremendous amount of it at an earlier point in time.
So, crack theory here- Asmoday used up her powers sealing the twin in her cubes and then trapping the Traveler in the cubes, likely sending them back to Teyvat, and that came with some consequence of Asmoday using up her powers possibly going into deep sleep, and probably ended up unable to sustain most of her powers (pun intended) causing her to fall into the ocean where Traveler fished her out.
Might just sound far fetched but I can just see the regression incidence happening for the third time.
Her being the silly Paimon would be hilarious.
Why is she glitchy like Arlecchino tho
This is the lore drop of the CENTURY
also WHAT IS WRONG WITH COLUMBINA???
It's the same glitching effect as Arlecchino
Nothing like the smell of fresh Genshin lore at the dawn of the day
Above the starry firmament, God judges as we have judged
It's just Tuesday for Hoyo fans.
OK NOW I DON'T THINK ANYONE WAS EXPECTING A LORE DROP THIS MASSIVE
The Fatui funeral right before Sumeru was something, sure, but THIS? Holy shit we're really entering the endgame huh
The final scene... COLUMBINA IS COMING AT LAST!!!!
I fell to my knees watching this in walmart.
Just saw someone fall to their knees at walmart
Just saw someone seeing someone fall on their knees at walmart
Just stole some cabbages from walmart while everyone was distracted by some guy falling to their knees
Guys, apparently both JP and EN VA for Istaroth is the same as Venti's (I don't know about CN or KR yet). So it's confirmed?
Yes, it seems to be a deliberate connection. Venti lore might finally be coming around in Nod Krai patches?
Venti's CN and KR VAs also voice her.
Its also confirmed CN an KR are BOTH Venti VA's as well, I SMELL SHENANIGANS A FOOT!
WHY THE FUCK DO VENTI AND ISTAROTH HAVE THE SAME VA
I NEED ANSWERS NOW
:)
You know why.
(Believers that Venti is part of Istaroth theory eating well today)
Venti buff incoming
Istaroth being voiced by Venti in all four languages is definitely intentional. Looking forward to his second story quest in the near future
THEY TURNED ISTAROTH INTO WAIFU, EVERYONE WAS RIGHT
And to make it more funny, Istaroth's JP VA is also Murase Ayumu (Venti)
Her EN VA is also Erika Harlacher.
Overlapping both the JP and EN VAs with Venti is an odd coincidence.
The CN voice-over also has the same VA for Venti.
KR IS SAME
This is really close to confirming their connection. Venti lore finally
Yep, many theories have noted the connection between wind and time. This all but confirms it!
Seeds of stories... Brought by the Wind... Cultivated by time
also in EN, Erika voices Istaroth!
Wtf? The ENG voice actor is also Venti (Erika Harlacher). Is that a coincidence, or is Venti/Istaroth a double cast in CN and KR, too?
In cn too
I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but that's suspicious as hell and seems a little intentional.
Definitely intentional. People have always theorised a Venti-Istaroth connection, seems like it's coming true.
Venti has long been speculated to be a son of istaroth. And White Horse Adeptus being confirmed earlier this year as daughter of Istaroth and having stuff like " she is both mother and daughter" thrown around in that confirmation does imply that Venti is both son of and Istaroth himself at the same time.
The voice stuff only gives credence to this theory
Also same in CN and KR
Lol Ishtaroth has a male JP VA? That's rare and amusing
Murase Ayumu is just built different, man.
Istaroth's EN VA is also Erika (Venti's VA)
Genshin intern every other day: i sleep
Genshin intern on a completely random Wednesday: HAVE A LORE GRENADE LMAO
What a drop out of nowhere, lol.
The animation style was amazing, the designs are great and Nod Krai is hype.
"What if... She just switched sides?"
"She loves her new master more than her own self..."
Uhhh looks at Paimon
Paimon being the Sustainer sent to spy on the traveller and ending up double-crossing Celestia is so coming true
Those character designs are immaculate
Istaroth looks insane
Big lore drop
Blows my mind that Aiden Dawn also voices Cyrene in Honkai: Star Rail!
That marks the second time an English VA voices two characters in both HSR and Genshin who took the form of a giant, floating, eldritch eye in the sky and an Hi3 variant character in the other game!
The other time being Katiana Sarkissian who voices both Mavuika and Seliose (Who became Aquila)!
Katiana also voices Thanatos echoing voice.
Mavuika in hsr: You ain’t the only one with floating eye flow and power over death, Ronova!
Cyrene and Mem in genshin: This will be a romantic story ever told. Mem!
Capitano: the fuck?
I once again wonder why does Hoyo need ufotable again for an anime if they are capable of producing stuff like this on their own.
I mean, truthfully, because getting an anime done by ufotable is seen as prestigious and they're big fanboys. But besides that, production-wise, making a long series (on time, on budget, on quality) is a lot more complex than making a short, so there's that too. No doubt they could do it if they wanted to, though. Cygames does in-house production coordination for many of their own franchise TV anime now after building up their in-house capacity over the years, and miHoYo's certainly got the money now, too.
Honestly, considering that Ufotable more or less chooses what it wants to work on, I'm guessing it's a two way street. Outside of being paid, they maybe want to do a Genshin Impact anime. It probably saves them a lot of time if they get access to the 3D models and environments.
There is a big difference between making the occasional animated short to drop on social media and making multiple seasons of 12-24 episodes 22 minutes in length each of an anime that will also need to be distributed and probably aired on television in some countries which is something Ufotable has experience with. Even if Hoyo could do all that in house we probably lose animated shorts for all of their games as a trade off
Arnold (MurderofBirds) would be tweaking and foaming if he saw this.
Columbina!
So it seems like Rhinedottir fused with Naberius in order to get a seat on the Shades' Council?? What is she planning, what is her goal...
I'm really liking the art style in this animation. Istaroth kind of looks like Robin from HSR in some scenes. Naberius/Rhinedottir looks like Aponia in a way. Ronova and Paimon eerily look kind of similar. Mainly just the hairstyle though.
The Gods design are amazing! Love how each of them looks ethereal-like
And Palestar edict in Nod Krai looking for Columbina let's go. Hopefully one of the harbingers is playable this time
WE EATING GOOD TODAY!!! Four Shades reveal! Rhinedottir reveal! Asmoday's official name dropped! COLUMBIINAAAAAA
This is what I expect Genshin Anime will be -- 4 shades story, Gods, etc. But here we are.
Nod-Krai can't come sooner.
Okay, fine, Hoyo. I'll reinstall Genshin.
This and Kaveh’s birthday? I’m seated!
Asmoday being the name of the Sustainer, holy shi the theories were right.
That wasn't really a theory and more-so just a Datamined leak
Paimon being Asmoday is being more likely.
erika harlacher voicing 2 gods in the same game, yas queen!
In the council of gods, no mortal voice is ever heard.
And thus was the fate of the world arbitrarily determined.
We know that such is the way of the world.
But do the gods act out of contempt...
Or have they at some hour begun to act out of fear?
the lore droppp
I love how they’re all just vibing with Rhinedottir, even Naberius, lol. Like, “Oh, you’re a Khaenri’ahn with crazy Abyss powers who stole one of our bodies? That’s cool, no big deal.”
Naberius feels so amused by it. It might be hubris or a testament of their power, but they really act like they let it pass because is fun
I feel like Naberious could take back control at any moment (that's when their halo turned light blue), but she just doesn't, because she wants to see Rhinedottir's next fucked up experiment.
The Shade of life ladies and gentlemen 👏
Rhinedottir knows she’s safe as long as she doesn’t create something like the "French," like Egeria did.
Crazy woman appreciating another crazy woman 🤝
My wild theory is that the Shades hate being ruled by the HP so they all are trying to find loopholes to slip the leash.
Istaroth created Venti Naberius merged with Rhinedottir Asmoday just straight up peacing out Ronova finding uh “creative” ways to interpret the rules.
Isn't the opposite? Ronova says the Shades are all projections of the Heavenly Principles, they're part (or maybe copies) of them. Which is why she says Asmoday could only betray them if she loved her new master more than herself.
We know that Ronova is a rulebreaker as she was punished by the HP for helping humans too much in the past.
For example in Natlan’s SQ we know that she wasn’t allowed to help Xblanque establish the Ode of Resurrection but she does it anyway.
Wait, so you're telling me:
Rhinedottir- one of the people mainly responsible for the destruction of Khaen'riah- is acting as the Shade of Life's body double. Is it just me or does it seem like she got off really easy on that one?
And Asmoday, the Shade of Space and the arse who screwed over the twins, is missing, serving under a new "master". Huh, Paimon definitely not beating the allegations now...
Paimon changing her voice is a sign that Asmoday is ready to reveal herself 🤣🤣🤣
The shades all seem to be bounded by the rules put upon them by the Heavenly Principles, be it either by their own will or not. HP can probably do something about that, but I doubt the other two have the authority to do anything about it, even if they are physically capable
Damn, Harry Potter is that strong?!
Rhinedottir fused with Nabereus as revealed by Albedo during 5.6. Nabereus' mind is still in the body but Rhindottir has control of it.
Ah... I don't recall everything about that quest. Still, that's a pretty sweet gig for someone who screwed over an entire nation imo.
It seems that by merging with the Shade of Life, she also had to take up her office
Kinda like the Flying Dutchman Captain deal
Gold on her way to find out about all the paperwork she now has to do.
oh god, the paimon theories are becoming closer to reality
Even 3 of the 4 Shades are moving now, Nod Krais events have the potential to be really big
HOYO dropping one of the biggest lore reveals on a Tuesday night
I'm begging you like the beggiest beggar of begdom don't kill any of the shades I want them playable
You think they'll be playable? With those big-ass halo designs?
I mean it's probably going to be a part of their kit, just look a Layla she kinda has a big ass halo thingy in her ult (If I remember correctly)