Active offensive stratagems are like scissors.
Don't run with them.
If no run then how throw far?
Always dive and run 2 times more dangerous two times more distance
It doesn't matter if I run with them. Enemies always seem to know exactly when I've put the last input in and act accordingly.
Me as a bot diver: The rocket know where you are at all times.
If not run, why run shaped?
I like to live dangerously.
Well where’s the fun in that?
So much this. Running around with eagle strats is a noob mistake.
Unless it's the Eagle Strafing Run. Those have such a precise area of effect that you'd have to be 110% dead on to kill a friendly with it.
Counterpoint: those Eagles from DSS Eagle Storm are on Super Cocaine, though. They'll nail you with Strafing Run for existing within five metres of a bug, bot, or squid. I've even been shot out of the sky by one while I was hover packing.
Ok I'm no longer running...
However I have now been laid flat by the charger chasing me and the results are the same.
Like Grenades, once the Beacons out of your hands its nobody's friend.
Don't play the blame game, focus on getting the fuck away from it first. I wish the people that yelled at you will learn this when they too drop theirs, but I don't normally have high hopes for droppers like this
That's... Genuinely the kindest thing anyone has said to me this week
accidentally dropped strategems are the hot sauce of the game, a little splash here and there really kicks things up a notch.
"So, uh... that 380 landed a lot closer to extract than I expected. We should, uh, back up a bit..."
I prefer the modest Gatling barrage. Its setup time only allows for "So, uh..." part.
Oh...um. You're doing great, Diver. You aint no Dropper like em.
To live and die for Super Earth is, and will always be an honor, no matter how or why you die.
And if things get rough, Remember: Freedom!
You are a strong, independent diver.
Also, next time someone complains about the 500kg falling on their head, throw the second one at them to assert dominance.
Mfw I get ready to toss a thermite at a Hulk but then some rocket jackass ragdolls me, making me drop the thermite so it sticks onto me and burns me to death.
Feelsbadman.
The drone grenade are my friends. Im like where you going little drone the two enemies I want you to kill are over there!
15 kill streak
OK never mind buddy you do you! I'll just keep letting you fly around
Play on superhelldive, no one is gonna yell at you.
And you'll ask: But wait? Aren't the real tryhards on superhelldive?
Yes. But no one uses mic so nobody can't yell
It's like semi-common occurrence and accepted causality at that difficulty, hell its why I exclusively play it since everyone usually on there understands You WILL DIE, and maybe even all die like the DoW opening as the objective is completed but all lives lost.
Honestly I could believe how much easier 10 is than 7/8 just because of player base. I wish I had made the jump sooner.
In my experience no one blames anyone, but I'm playing fairly comfortable on diff 10 so I'm probably a competent player, still, those times that TK occurs what I've seen is people having a chuckle at it and continuing with the mission
Ya, 1 ill timed team wipe can sink an entire mission.
Counter point, I've had total squad losses save a mission. Sometimes the team gets stuck reinforcing people one by one (especially on flag objectives) and you just get ground up as you drop in. A total reset lets the squad start fresh and regroup.
I just started playing this week. I was level 12 and accidentally killed my level 7 teammate, respawned them. This dude proceeds to kill me and take my ammo backpack, then types in chat “I thought you stole my samples”. Like my guy we are both new and terrible at the game, where is this toxicity getting us
Maybe you know, but samples are shared, no one can steal them.
I did know! Is it etiquette to pick up samples or leave them?
I always pick them up lol. It's all going on the same shuttle at the end.
And they’re too busy running around saving their own lives.
I do, occasionally when typing isn't an option (I am getting assaulted by 50 enemies from 4 different angles)
That's why I'm always host. It doesn't matter who dropped the 500, the dbag that cusses out a person that got staggered gets court martialed. It happens to everyone, you either laugh about it because it's funny, or you can take your shit elsewhere. This isn't a competitive PVP game.
I would host 100% of the time if Arrowhead would finally add a "disband fireteam" option in the menus instead of making me press a pillow over the game's face or making me manually kick three players whenever I want to pause for a moment or when I would like to play with different teammates.
It's been over a year. I'm sick of excusing Arrowhead over the simplest features, or lack thereof. This is like being anywhere north of five years old and still not knowing how to walk.
Yes and return to ship alone button is so over due
Amen, diver
Sometimes, it is the bugs. Sometimes, I'm getting ready to throw a 500kg on a shrieker nest, but those absurdly quiet chargers blindside me and knock me over.
Those chargers have no right to be that quiet.
She’s safe from it cause she’s prone, 500kg hitboxes are like cones
But usually my teammates can't take notice and they end up dying and I'm the one getting kicked for something I didn't mean to do
Maybe a few months ago. That got fixed
Nah. I literally booked a titan with one today and it kept on trucking
Anyone with half a brain doesn’t need an explanation why you threw a 500 at their feet.
It's annoying when my own teammates do this because they flick their shot after I go to throw the stratagem and I make sure to not be in their line of fire too because they simply don't practice proper gun discipline 🤣
Walking barrage is worse. You've no idea what direction it goes.
I try to type out or say over mic "ragdolled" "sorry"
Nope happens mostly bc some dipshit uses the eruptor to kill bugs 1m away from you
Pretty much same problem, back when the air burst launcher first released, I had it happen more than once that a bug just jumped out from bumfuck nowhere, right im front of my shot, killing me and my teammates
I just had a game where i wanted to throw my 380 into a bug breach and someone killed me either with a turret or because i ran into his line of fire.
Most dramatic and cinematic extraction i have ever seen xD
Here, this one is free of charge:
Me: drops strat, wipes squad
Squeaker: tantrums
Me, unmutes: Is that your real voice?
if you were enemy you would survive, 500kgs are so underwhelming
I remember when I was playing with my buddies last night, we were defending the extraction point and I was about to throw a 500kg stratagem when my friend decided it was a great time to melee me. I dropped it right on the extraction platform.
I just laugh when someone else does it (as long as it's not a regular thing). But you do have some control over it: be careful when holding your stratagem and throw it asap or put it away.
When my teammate and I get into a kicking fight I’ll queue up an Eagle 500Kg and get him to kick me down and drop the stratagem
That's when you yell "SCATTER!" and everyone runs off in a different direction like that scene in Ratatouille
I swear the hunter came out of nowhere when i wanted to shot the airbust
I see the red doom beam from the sky and scatter. Been traumatized too many times blown to bits by teammates. Some people make fun of me but I haven’t been team killed in a while.
I got ragdolled from a turret on a bot mission while holding my orbital laser… dropped it, and suddenly I was a medium-well diver with a little pink in the middle.
That one hunter that just so happens to knock you over with this stratagem
i mean just dive and you’ll be okay 90% of the time 👍
Me when i want to throw my Gatling barrage at the enemy bug breach but the teammate next to me has dogshit aim so now he has to deal with the consequences of his actions
My brother in Christ, YOU chose to provide unnecessary covering fire at extraction
Spam sorry in advance for what is about to happen.
And that is why I don't wait at extraction to drop one
I find these moments hilarious.
Where is the men from?
Quick google says it’s from a 2008 Japanese show called “Love Letter”.
Ill dodge it
Every. Damn. Time.
imo, too many people are trying to call big strats while swarmed when they should be running and tossing nades behind them (or bouncing them off terrain so they ricochet behind them into the swarm) to make time to call the strat on the main body of them and not the 3 hunters hounding them
The number of times we are overrun and someone is like "I know, Napalm... oops, I'm sorry, they made me drop it"
If we already need it on our position, you kind of inadvertently tossed it properly, the problem is it will now make it a no-man's land and kill everyone there
Same people that toss a 500kg or Napalm INTO an objective where someone is already in there clearing on foot or in a mech "I'm helping" and they have no excuse of fumbling to blame
Reactionary strats are almost always bad
Like kneejerk tossing a turret on the extract/objective in the middle so it just spins and cuts everyone down, 5 seconds before it gets destroyed because it can't possibly take everything out before it gets overrun
Panic is the main issue, lack of planning is the root cause
Casually holding it in your hand and not being aware that something is about to happen is mostly your fault
Thankfully I've never had anyone yell at me when I drop my orbital napalm at my feet.
It's usually me yelling "fucking run!"
Classic
Why aren't you using the stratagem safety? That way you can't have it get dropped at your feet and it only activates when you throw it.
I FUCKING HATE THOSE GOD DAYM SMOKE SPORES!!!
Holding off the last stratagem key to prevent this until you throw the ball is entirely your choice.
I just had this happen to me, I got pinned under my destroyed mech, so I threw this and yelled out "FOR SUPER EARTH" Got kicked.
Translation. I don't like when people call me out on my stupid mistakes.
A short but clear warning siren and/or better warning message to all players within the killzone radius from the gem light column will be helpful to prevent TK for all fire support gems with AOE.
Such warning signal will make everyone clearly recognize the danger even in the middle of the combat.
We hear repeated warning messages about bot mortar for all players, but why not for friendly fire support?
It's called, talking to your team and the light beam coming from a highly detailed ball near your feet with the stratagem display...
Not may random players use Voip. Chatting messages have a limit. Let the game send a warning message to all players within the kill zone. It is very simple work to do.
Im sorry but it's called not being blind
It is so easy to miss the gem light in the middle of combat, especially if the map is complicated.
Congrats now, stand behind an armored vehicle irl in a combat zone.
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Liberty speed your step, Helldiver