Helldivers
I'm sorry my fellow Helldivers, I am actually a toxic person outside this game. Not as funny as when I'm playing this game
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Yeah it's almost as if certain games breed certain behaviourisms and can lead to someone being unhealthier down the line
Rather, it reveals what is hidden deep within us (or not so deep)
I know exactly what you are talking about...
What on gods green super earth is this implying helldiver??
Fuck (negative) the squids?
If you cut holes in a net,
You get fewer holes.
Bro needs to face the wall
What in sweet liberty did you just post in this comment thread, Helldiver?
WHAT THE HELL IS THIS?! (Context please? Why is he looking at a octopus)
The dude is The Deep, a character from the show The Boys.
He is basically Aquaman and has an affair with that octopus.
Also if I remember correctly, the main antagonist makes him eat the octopus alive later on.
He be DEEP in the OCTOPUSSY
(I gotta watch this show)
The octopus is a male btw.
His name is Timothy.
HE BE DEEP IN THE OCTOPOOSSYYYYYYYYYYY
Maybe the real Helldive was our voice chats the whole time…
Maybe the real lesson was that we knew it all along
I know you're probably joking but I don't buy into the notion where people naturally want to be horrific. Most games make you hyper dependent on a team structure and if one person is steeply incompetent or actively sabotaging, rendering your efforts benign, I cannot imagine any healthy person enduring that for long without deforming.
It does not enter my mind talking shit to someone because they're having a bad game, even when I'm in 100% competitive mode in team depending games like CS, in the and its all just a game and I'm a grown ass man, that doesn't mean I don't get mad, because sometimes people are just dumb and lack the basic human skill of thinking. But even when people are trolling, the best thing to do is just ignore the person and let him sink alone in his needs for attention
Most games make you hyper dependent on a team structure
I'm going to be real, I thought like this until I played more "one-man-army" kind of coop games like this one, and I think I prefer the hyper dependent ones. The best is a good balance, of course - in DRG someone isn't going to ruin your entire match, but there's stuff that will straight up pin you down/stunlock you and requires a teammate to free you, objectives that actually really need multiple players to cooperate, etc. and the randoms' quality is immensely higher than in Helldivers, which promotes solo play and running off with no punishment for it (in fact punishing sticking together with how jank teamwork mechanics like duo loading are and immense risk of friendly fire).
The community may be nice but holy crap Helldivers players are so bad at basic teammate awareness and teamwork it's impressive for a coop game. Not a huge problem as I have friends to play with but I avoid opening my lobby to public unless it's some super helldive bots mission where there's at least a somewhat better chance at people simply running off instead of also borderline griefing the mission and ignoring all communication.
I tried playing some Predator Strain again for the MO… this rings so true and it sucks. It’s the one place vs bugs where going solo will get you fucked up if you’re not very good AND playing at your best. Which means you get to see exactly how terrible the average pub is at paying attention to anything around them. The number of times I got pointlessly teamkilled, or I saved a teammate from a couple Stalkers and then got left to die to the rest of them instead of getting even a half second of covering fire so I could recover and clean up… just insane.
Yeah Preds is where you see this the worst, I refuse to dive on those planets unless I have a premade squad because it's just a boring slog to solo (or play public, which is essentially the same or worse if they teamkill you).
People praise this game to high heaven - and some is deserved because it really is super fun - but don't really realize all the game design issues it has and how it's incentive system is godawful at promoting any actual coop in the (shocker) coop videogame.
I’ll raise you possibly the most glaring example of this of all:
Buddy Bunkers…
If you play a game where team work is so paramount that a single mistake turns you into a screeching goblin, and instead of walking away, you play that game with RANDOMS? Tells a lot about you
says that 1 person can ruin the team based experience
"JUST PLAY WITH FRIENDS, DURR"
assumes that everyone has 4/5 other friends with perfect schedules at all times
If you're playing a game where you cannot have fun with randoms, frankly, just sounds like you're playing a shit game
Oh gee, I wonder which game you could possibly be referring to...
I’m just not going to play with that kind of people. If I don’t like my teammates nothing stops me from playing with someone else. I don’t need to endure something I don’t like.
Frankly in my 1.3k play time I experienced toxic players just a couple of times..
sounds like destiny
Same. Helldivers 2 is such a breath of fresh air, rarely do I ever get mad because of teammates. It genuinely feels like actual teamwork, and not babysitting.
Once you learn to laugh at squad mishaps instead of getting angry, this becomes the best multiplayer game. First game I’ve played where I actually enjoy hosting.
Accidentals can be frustrating, but in a game with 380mm barrages, huge area napalm strikes, and 500kg bombs it's kinda something you have to expect
Theres a reason we have 20 reinforcements. Gotta use them somewhere.
Ive had a host cost us over half of the reinforcement budget. At someone point I have to question if its "on accident" anymore.
I am ashamed to say that despite averaging well under 1 death per mission playing exclusively 10s, I had a good ole 10-spot earlier this morning in a game I hosted. I made a last second horrible audible without thinking it through. (I was running Eruptor, Ultimatum, Thermite, Stalwart with Supply Pack… and decided to swap for the De-Escalator, not processing until I hit the ground that I had no reasonable close quarters option.) It was against the Predator Strain, so of course the instant you end up on the back foot with that loadout you’re fucking dead. And that loadout REALLY can’t defend itself without the De-Escalator, so you don’t have much choice but to go back and try to get it if you die.
You can probably figure out where this is headed… death spiral, and for good measure, I ate the first three breaches solo because I just couldn’t ever get a clean break before another breach got called. I asked for help and got totally ignored. (Which sucked, but I don’t blame them. It wasn’t their fault that I brought a bad loadout, and I’m sure they’re all used to shitty hosts getting owned and needing to hard carry the mission.) One of them finally ate a breach instead and I managed to recover.
Then for good measure I got tk’d by arc gear 3 different times waiting for extraction. One was their fault, I was already in position and unable to move when they let the Arc Thrower rip way too close to me. The other two were Arc Dog being a menace, can’t really blame them per se.
All that to say it absolutely can happen by accident, even to good players. I’d even say that it being accidental is the norm.
That’s the neat part, you don’t!
Usually they hit me with the "Sorry" commo rose line, I hit them back with the "Yes" commo rose line. Life continues on. Accidents happen. Kinda wish that the kick emote did zero damage to friendlies so I can just whack them if it happens more than three times though.
Just yesterday I was playing with a few rando cadets (probably from the recent region-lock resolution). I tried to throw a 500kg to clear a nest, but threw it just short of my target. Cadet comes wandering up to the edge of the nest, I try spamming "follow me" in a vain attempt to spare them, but it was too late. I watched the 500kg land right next to them, and they had just enough time to look at it before it exploded. Funniest shit ever, would not be mad if I were in their shoes.
I sincerely hope that one guy that I SOS-dropped into recently finds happiness in their life. Because god knows they don’t have any at the moment.
I dropped in, broke off and ran solo because the mission was an utter shitshow. I managed to salvage the objectives and started hauling ass to extraction.
While I was doing this, lots of players were coming in and being kicked shortly after. ‘Whatever, I’ve got this’ I thought.
Fast forward to extraction. A wayward zap from my de-escalator kills the host. I reinforce immediately.
The bitter, spite-filled husk of a person tries to land their pod on me and misses. As I’m still holding the line they melee me, shoot me and kick me.
How sad must your life be to play fucking HELLDIVERS and manage your lobby like a power-tripping discord moderator.
This orbital bombardment just put a ring on my finger...
Me maining the ultimatum as my every loadout secondary has definitely taught me that mistakes happen…a lot….
I never get mad when my team and/or I mess up. I do get mad when I get ragdolled into a wall and die because a FUCKING CANNON TURRET shot me from 200m away with no visual or audial warning
The only time I ever get salty now is when someone refuses to work as a team. I don’t give a shit about wasting reinforcements or accidental friendly fire anymore.
I find myself getting team killed and loudly saying “Teammate!” to myself out of frustration but quietly laughing inside.
I have two players inside me
Helldivers mid level player
For Honor
Wow!
Wow!
Wow!
URAAAAH! UR- UR- UR- UR- URAAAAH!
Oof. For honor. I am glad I left that toxic pit right before warmonger release
The trick is that it's so toxic that people don't get mad anymore as in other games. I have it as that game where i don't think and beat people.
Helldivers made me quit battle royale games all together, i was addicted to them, and i dont even know why, i hated all of them, fortnite, apex, off the grid, the finals, R6S, Cod, all of them, they made me so angry all the time.
Played helldivers when it came out for the first time, and i just realised how many games lure you into a win lose cycle, not helldivers, you pretty much always win, you have 3 dependable teamates that have your back, and even when you do lose you go, oh cool i got rewards anyway, now ill have a better chance next time, the game makes me feel accomplishment, i can grind away for super credits if i want, or just spend 15 bucks on 1000 credits which gets you a whole arsenal of new content to help you.
I love being a Helldiver
No longer playing competitive games like league has been the best decision I've made when it comes to gaming. I'm straight up a happier person now even though I enjoyed playing those kinds of games.
I love mixing in competitive games to scratch that itch, but that's the thing, I realized it should only be an itch scratch. It shouldn't be 100% of my gaming. If you scratch an itch all day, sooner or later you're going to hit blood.
You might enjoy fighting games.
Last Game I played semi competitively was Battlebit Remastered.
My god was I angry and toxic during this Game, frustration and bad behavior festered. Helldivers 2 honestly pulled me down again cause of the (mostly) very wholesome and welcoming community.
Truly Democracy at it's finest
BBR was rage inducing except if you had one of those lobbies where everybody screamed for medics or you sat in helicopters hearing someone blast Fortunate Son.
Apart from the post, where does the image come from?
Try Google searching it but the image is a standalone from an artist years ago.
My 900 hours in Rainbow 6 Siege over the course of 7 years vs my 900 hours in Helldivers 2 over the course of 1 year
Hunt: Showdown 😤
Yeah dude, I was so eager for blood on that one... And always playing with randoms. Man....
I recommend watching NakeyJakeys video on his CS experience. I think he gives good advice on not being a cocklord
To be fair, this is why this game is so precious.
Even the most toxic person can become a good comrade if they play with the right people.
You're more than welcome in this community, just use us the respect you like to receive from others (unless you don't expect any, and that's another set of problems we'll help you with) and you're set.
See you on the front, Helldiver! 💪
This is why I enjoy PvE and more specifically this game.
Also, Democracy.
cleansed bros chakras
I played world of tanks from 2011 till 2022. I feel so much better quitting that toxic cesspool
This game is your rehab. Make it count Helldiver
Think of it as an opportunity to foster the positive aspects in yourself you want to be true more often.
Its fine PvP is a lot more toxic then PvE anyway
My best decision in my gaming career was to abolish competitive games.
One day i asked myself, why do i play this.. WoT, WT, For Honor games? 90% of the time I rage BECOUSE i was not good enough or so.
Sandbox games have set me free(trailmakers) and then Helldivers2 came and I'm having fun!
This is me personally. I've quit pvp games about two years ago, picked up Darktide, Helldivers, and a couple other co-op games.
Now friends are shoving a metaphorical bottle at me and asking me to go back to pvp with them. One said "D10 too difficult, playing against other players of equal skill in ranked on an even playground is more fun".
Occasionally I consider going back.
Competitive games turn everbody toxic, co-op PvE is the way.
It’s funny you say that. This has been the most wholesome community until people talked bad about people playing on Xbox… I have been in competitive games ranging from smash melee to COD (joke comp) all the way to doing quick draw edits and no hud all headshot challenges in RDR2 and I was a snob about it. Now I bop around helldivers like a angel of death assisting fellow divers and being as positive I can be. It’s very good for the soul and for others. What a great game. So glad I’ve been here for it
I'm not saying the Xbox users deserve it. But it's fine if PS Users wanna do so until when Xbox players finally arrived I know we'll wholesomely greet them to the game
The only reason why i scream in this game is when i have to get my support weapon back. But everything else yeah its fine
Helldiver me v. Siege me.
I agree that in general teammates are great in Helldivers 2 but I did stumble across some highlevel that left the mission (level 8 of difficulty) without me and my 40+ samples because they didn't give a shit about samples since they maxed out their ship which infuriated me and made me alt+F4 the game
edit: typo
This non-competitive game can really bring out the best in people
Honestly, I became more cooperative and civilized because of helldivers 2. You don't want to know what kind of person I was when I first played warzone.
“Oh hey, we just found some Xbox 360 lobby transcripts from a game called Halo 2?”
flees country, changes name, starts a new life
My retirement game. I’m too old and busy to grind comp.
If I’m lucky enough to get 45 minutes to game, I’m diving.
Also W community (when we’re not crying about getting one shot in a war game).
Everytime Overwatch 2 pisses me off I come to Helldivers 2 and instantly feel better.
I was stuck in the competitive solo q spiral of Valorant and couldn't stop playing it no matter how unhappy it made me. My brother made me a diver and it's been such a fresh breath of air
Everyone has crashed out at a competitive game because that's what competitive breeds, it makes people toxic and awful because they feel like they should be doing better and throw anger out at everyone then eventually hit themselves in the chaos, it sucks tbh.
I love playing games like overwatch and marvel rivals but i just can't shake off that need to preform, it's only fun when you're the one stomping not the one being stomped so when i put down games like that and picked up co-op games it made me realize man it sucks constantly feeling that pressure and feeling that need to out do everyone else or get called horrible things in the chat, playing games like deep rock galactic, helldivers 2, lethal company, r.e.p.o, peak, left 4 dead was a breath of fresh air these are all games where teamwork makes the dream work and it's just nice to not feel like i'm not contributing because i just got off work and now i want to chill instead of playing like i'm in grandmasters
Democracy brings the best side of you.
Always remember
I thought this was another post on r/WorldBuildingMemes
You gotta let out somewhere
But seriously, this game just makes teamwork, well, actual teamwork
I come from another live service game with a really healthy community as well called Warframe (i've started playing it since 2021 on and off), and i get what you say. Everytime someone needed help or advise i was always available, and i even sometimes gifted Prime sets and mods.
Me FR
PVP life 💀 vs PVE life 😊
if you’re toxic in a pve game then you got some real personal issues.
Nothing like that, It's just that I feel a little guilty and hypocritical because I'm having fun joking around in this game, while outside of this game I'm really violent towards others.
What Siege and apex do to a person
Everyone has had their dark past with games, I have +7000 hours in GTA V Online
Still trying to find the original of the meme.
Im already a toxic gamer but this game brings it out when the teammates are doing dumb shit
The only time I've gotten mad in HD2 is when I told my team not to extract while I'm out being a sample whore but they extract anyways. One bad day I just kicked everyone off my lobby during the 20 second countdown.
THIS. This entirely. I was 100% on the frontline of “party up and ruin the other teams lives tonight” I wrote a lot in the first draft before I thought about this picture again. Yeah, I was there. We fought for first place and got it often enough. But those days are gone and I would rather be friendly and comfortable today.
I’m nice AF when we dive.
I have yelled many slurs in my past, and I will probably continue
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