Helldivers
The duality of man
Discussion
Friendly fire isnt
Wisdom from the Smart Stout brewery.
Lvl 150 here. I only cause a tpk from the ABR launcher, like, every time I pull the trigger.
It’s basically required to take the life of one teammate when using the ARB launcher.
The Machine Spirit requires blood, else it will take your own.
The Airburst tax
I think the firemodes could be explained a bit better. I thought cluster was a no-brainer until I noticed the limited range, flak is needed for long range shots but you better make sure there are no entities on the way to the target.
So is flak the one that will trigger on enemy proximity?
Yes, and the cluster is the one that triggers on friendlies 😉
Flak triggers on proximity to anything and doesn't seem to have a max range. Cluster triggers on impact or at a certain range (I think 70m).
Ah, I see. Thank you
Level 150 here. If you as a level 50 kill me with the ABL, it's because you lack battlefield awareness and game sense. If I kill you with the ABL it's because I'm aura farming with the HUD turned off.
We are not the same.
Reminder that lvl 50 used to be the max, you're not a rookie anymore at that point
Level 50 does it out of a mistake. The level 150 does it for the love of the game.
right one is me flipping my FRV (with my Eruptor) after it tipped over while still +1 Helldiver sitting inside it.
"Sorry, im not sorry, if i would not have killed you my FRV would have started burning and the cooldown is a nightmare"
So if your FRV flipped over - LEAVE IT FAST AND KEEP A SAFE DISTANCE
Damn. Desensitization is real. Yesterday I was in Discord server squad on "chill 8 bugs" mission. I had Airburst Rocket Launcher, I saw two chargers butt to butt near B2, I said swiftly but calmly "B2, leave" thrice. Then I pulled the trigger. Charger died, and so did B2. 2 heavies for one diver. Worth it.
The lvl 50 didn't know better, it ain't his fault
The lvl 150 took a calculated risk.. too bad they stopped teaching maths during Helldiver Training after the cyborg-automaton incident.
“Oops, my B all”
Lord have mercy I just finished a super helldive dive with 2 150’s, a guy who was 136, and myself who is a measly level 46. One of the 150’s and the level 136 were slaughtering our entire squad over and over with the airburst rocket launcher one guy had, and the other guy had an arc blitzer, de escalator, and k9 (arc) guard dog. Plus everyone was packing orbital napalm. You’d have thought the team killing was for a trophy they were trying to get the way these “highly experienced” fools had absolutely zero trigger control.
Hey hey hey.
They are highly experienced. They're experienced in friendly fire.
I haven't teamkilled with Airburst Launcher in months. Airburst is a distant patrol deleting tool, nothing else.
You think he'd be used to it since one of the first strats is the cluster bomb. TK-5000
Me pointing the airburst in the same direction as the rest of my team knowing what will happen but pulling the trigger anyways
NGL, If I'm on a lower difficulty I get real nervous when a 150 drops.
When I see a teammate hopelessly pinned down by a swarm of enemies, I always do the right thing and call an Eagle cluster bomb on their position. That way, they die instantaneously with no pain while still serving Democracy as bait to get a bunch of enemies to die in a single blast.
The difference between thinking: “It was probably an accident,” and, “You fucking idiot…”
I don't understand why is the lvl 50 who did that making that face? They're realizing their mistake? Please explain
The level 50 feels bad for killing it's team the level 150 knows that he is simply a vessel that conducts the will of the holy missile
airbust?
why not cluster bomb.
I'm pretty sure the launcher is still called the airburst. Plus Airburst tends to be more useful as I've had my clustershots get eaten by singular units.
oh right the rocket launcher, only thought about orbital airbust frag for a moment
I forgot I had that equipped, killed a scavenger, and my entire team, self included
Literally me when the Airburst was available for those 24hr that one time.
Be prepared to take lives for Democracy Xbox players. Im still learning at 120lvls
The difference is the 150 level helldiver has spent the required 366 hours of lecturing from the DO to calculate the optimal sacrifice ratio.
The 150 will squad wipe as an optimization...
A level 50 will squad wipe from selflessness.
One did it on accident, the other was like
Level 150s know how to use it
Knowing when to use it and what firing mode to keep it on is the most important part.
See, the difference is that one did it on purpose.
Air burst is scary, i remember when I called it down recently one of the pieces ricocheted and went flying and killed a team mate not even that close to it
https://i.redd.it/g16y5o4o8wbf1.gif
Me who just shot a flak rocket and a Pouncer comes flying in wanting to hug me and my squad.
Me, who got reinforced in the middle of both airbursts and died instantly twice:
https://preview.redd.it/25uekoe4fubf1.jpeg?width=201&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=787b991af6d6c2c34aff24278d48d82fe2930497
Then got kicked for “wasting” revives.
I've been reading stories of ppl getting kicked for the weirdest reasons, is it really still that common? I always host(since early helldivers 2 had an awful amount of ppl getting kicked), and only ever kicked somoene for being toxic, or afk for a long time unannounced.
Had a match couple days ago where someone would accidentally shoot someone else and kill them, but it was no big deal. Till a guy ran right in front of my barrel as I was spraying the incendiary breaker shotgun down this alley. My first team kill of the match, clearly an accident that was his fault, yet I still apologized and called him in right on top of his gear. He dropped in and shot me in the face and kicked me even though he had killed multiple people during the same match.
I always say this game is 95% adults, but with some guys having the mentality of a little baby, I’m starting to think it doesn’t make a difference whether it’s an adult or a kid diving with you.
Age doesnt make a difference in my experience. Last bad egg I had in game had the voice of an Astartes. He killed everyone in the Pelican and then borded the Pelican by himself. Thinking back to it, he may of squat me on purpose with his Hellpod when he first arrived.
Anyone in the pelican extracts after entering it even if someone kills them afterwards.
Because there’s mostly adults in this game. We all know how obnoxious kids can be in other games.
Fair point, I guess I just tend to see a lot of posts about ppl being kicked for odd reasons, and it may just be the minority. I've genuinely only had to kick someone like 3 times in the past few months, and those were ppl trash talking other players for being "bad", or non stop griefing with team kills(just rezzed and started blasting away).
Yea, you're gonna see every person's bad experience on reddit as it tends to get more views than the good ones. Then again the good ones don't get posted as often as most of them the people just send the dudes a friend request and continue playing again later rather than talking about it on Reddit.
Which does suck as people can see a lot of it out of context and get a bad vibe from the community when it's not entirely like that.
Having a mature adult as a teammate is a great experience, but i could say that for a kid with manner too.
This game is different, and that’s really my point. In other games like cod or Fortnite, kids can be nasty.
Out of my 500 missions I'd say 10 of them had some asshat that kicked me for plenty of dumb reasons: grabbing samples, grabbing "their" samples, an accidental, not doing main objectives, doing main objectives, etc.
Everyone of them has flamed me in chat for one of these reasons, but since it's so rare and unbelievably stupid, they're more memorable.
Just over 600+ hours in the game I still get kicked for taking samples that people dropped….
It's not terrible, you still get a few people here and there who I assume forget to set their session to private and kick you out when you join or the others that you don't even know what you did wrong. In my experience it happens ~2/10 times that I join random sessions . When my friends aren't playing I try to join on SOS but if there aren't any I join random.
I play mostly client and have only been kicked a couple of times. Most people are nice, especially in high difficulties.
Yup . Has happend to me at least 13 times since about 2 months ago . I play around 2 - 3 hours a day because I'm tired as hell . So it happens often for me . Usually on the helldive or super helldive difficulties . Seems to be the high levels that do it to me . Not to say all .
Yesterday, we had a teammate that always threw napalm at us while we were raising flags etc. I dont mean next to us, it was 2 -3 meters away from everybody.
When asked to stop, he told us that he only cares about getting the most kills.
He got kicked by the host after the round for so many teamkills/making us restart the objective 3x in one mission
I've never been kicked for something I did (other than joining someone's squad, idk I just got kicked as soon as I joined)
Maybe it's because I don't play on the max difficulty, but at most people leave on their own without a word
This but thrice and because your teammates tossed the reinforcement beacon in the midst of bot hordes each time.
My favorite Helldivers experience: dropping in, spotting a stratagem tossed right next to my landing zone, and knowing, with absolute certainty, that the explosion and my ascent are going to sync perfectly… just in time to kill me. It's funny every time, just like the 500 landing next to you, with just enough time for you to say "oh fu-".
That must have been how my teammates felt when I reinforced them into burning fire after they both suddenly died.
In my defense, the fire was invisible and I died to it shortly after.