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PirateSoftware on the fake voice allegations
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It's the second puberty, guys
I think he's on a third puberty at this point.
You'd think he'd be able to sprout a facial hair by now
They’re all in his voice box.
If his puberty roadmap is the same his game roadmap was, facial hair will be available after 10th puberty hits
For anyone without the lore, this is not a joke, but instead is Thor's actual take on his voice
For anyone without the science, those with abnormal testosterone can have voice drops when starting TRT. Yes, even in your 30s.
Anyway, back to your pitchforks.
so not a second puberty, which is what he called it?
To be fair, it's easier to just tell people that it's a second puberty. The average Twitch viewer isn't known for their intelligence lol.
You're one of them, no?
you can call it that, but not necessarily -- its just easier to explain away with that than having to go into deep detail about something he's probably tired of explaining lmfao
All he does is talk all day every day I think he could just give the normal explanation lol
Jason Hall don’t know who you are.
Is bro really using gear to deepen his voice? Imagine using steroids (I know TRT isn't as deep as HGH) but still, it's wild he won't pick up a dumbbell.
have you seen that guy's body? he looks like a marshmallow. No way he's on any testosterone
That's not necessarily what happens with TRT. Voice deepening happens to some people more easily than muscle growth. I used to watch a guy who had to get testosterone injections every couple weeks and his voice was always deeper in the couple days after one.
TRT doesn't pack on muscle unless you're actively working out and trying to build muscle.
His name is Jason.
I wonder how many puberties it will take for him to not have a lumpy baby face and noodle arms.
How would I maintain it for 12 hours?
Fake or real, it's wild "tech" bro chose that sentence full well knowing that advanced voice modification technology exists.
He’s not a tech bro. That’s the biggest part of the grift. He’s just a rich kid that heard a lot of stuff on forums. Trust me bro personified. His entire life should have been screen shots or didn’t happen up to this point. Nah. He just doesn’t get the internet he supposedly grew up on. I would kill to know his old Reddit account. No way he could have kept an account on any older forum. Has he ever posted his something awful account for his totally real time in GoonWaffe? No way Lowtax (RIP) didn’t ban that ass a couple times.
Lowtax.... Oh man that brings me back. Sad for the kids but the guy was an asshole at the end of the day. He banned me for an innocent suggestion in a GBS thread for no reason. I'm still salty about it and it was well over a decade ago
I’m probably glazing him because I was younger, but take me back to GBS with his bullshit over any modern social media. The problem with SA was the layers of in jokes. You said one thing wrong and got popped.
I can’t see how Thor made it there. Just the causal racism, homophobia, anti furry stuff, etc. doesn’t match his current character at all.
SA at the end was all but one to one what modern reddit is now. Double that if it was something sensitive
Yes that’s why the commenter wrote “tech”
No way Lowtax (RIP) didn’t ban that ass a couple times.
Lowtax banned everyone who got in the spotlight or was even slightly critical of anything he liked. He popped me for suggesting his police blotter threads were mostly boomer humor that relied too much on the New Yorker style writing for comedic effect. That woman beater sent me like a three-paragraph angry ban message over saying that.
Edit: Changed tense to make more sense. This was in 2007, well before he offed himself.
Actually, he doesn't ban anyone anymore.
I assumed that was an accident. Yea, lowtax killed himself years ago. Sorry you got banned bro.
Shout out to eve online
Internet space ship drama is forever.
I just asked my Corp about his SAF and GW stuff. We will see. Some crazy bastard in that game definitely has some archives stored on a drive somewhere. Those days were truly wild.
voice modification technology
You dont even need that. You can train your voice to sound however you want. Its literally how trans people get a voice they're more comfortable with.
or how bald men from british columbia get a voice from their fav sitcom
I literally came here to see if anyone else laughed when he asked how he would maintain it for 12 hours a day.
It's a stupid talking point, radio DJ's maintain highly affected voices all day every day. It's not like it requires some ridiculous talent.
That being said, who cares? If he's doing an affected radio guy voice then he's just behaving like literally every person in broadcasting and it's never been considered controversial in that industry.
People on the internet love focusing in some hyper niche and usually not even true 'fact' about assholes when there's so much other real, valid stuff to make fun of them about.
To be fair he did say he'll be at twitchcon and speaking, out of all the things to dunk on Pirate about the voice thing is a weird thing to be obsessed about.
its just one point on a long list of stuff to criticise him about.
It is literally the weirdest thing, but not for how you're saying.
People are trying to get him to crash out, they're going for the weak points first, things that make him look insecure and like a clown.
there's no need to try, PS crashes out at the first little crumb of criticism towards him
Imma be blunt he's not nearly as tech smart as he makes himself out to be.
"How would I maintain it 12 hours a day?"
with... a voice changer?
I don't like the guy, but his voice sounded the same in the streamer awards interviews. So I think it's unlikely he's using a voice changer.
Hes not using a voice changer, hes just absolutely cranking up the bass and such on a volume controller.
Podcast/radio style settings that a lot of streamers use definitely deepen your voice, theres so much you can go for without reaching like this
Not a massive fan of the guy myself, but that’s also a big reason why Howard Stern sounds the way he does. All it really takes is a decent mic and a little low end EQ boost and boom.
Great point. I knew it reminded me of someone.. Definitely stern
Stern uses a Neumann U87 and bass boosts. That mic is 10x more expensive than pirates. You really can achieve this easily nowadays with affordable mics.
Oh yeah I found an old interview with him he sounds quite different. Did he also have a second puberty?
Exactly. I despise Thor for what's it's worth, but the voice changing allegations are tinfoil hat (which why people need to make up reasons to not like authentically unlikeable people is weird).
Low gain & EQ will just do this. My voice sounds significantly deeper on my AT2035 at low gain up close compared to higher gain far away.
Now is the low gain close proximity the most accurate reflection of my natural voice? Absolutely not, there's less travel time, but to claim I'm intentionally trying to enhance my voice because of it would be silly.
Another thing is that the video of his "original" voice, included a microphone from far away, and who knows what mic.
Plug an SM7B and you'll get your second puberty too.
Third puberty with an EQ.
And it's not out of the ordinary; it's probably a good idea to put some effects on.
In that clip you can hear his voice sounding way more normal as soon as he distances himself from the microphone. He just has insane audio settings it’s unbearable to listen to. It’s like a worse version of those radio shows settings
That's called proximity effect, every mic has that when you get closer to the capsule. He's just got gain cranked and a low EQ applied if anything
Not every mic. Electro voice uses Variable D to counter proximity.
People who never recorded themselves talking don't know how many things can influence the way it ends up when played back at you. That old recording of his definitely shows the same timbre he has in his current content. I'm doing it as a hobby for my own youtube and the differences throughout the years as I learned, changed techniques and changed recording locations make me sound radically different even if my only goal when editing my audio was to just clean it up. Hell, I recorded a couple of videos in a fucking wardrobe, and in them my voice sounds deeper than in those I recorded from a large living room with little-but-not-zero echo, while the one I recorded from my new office sounds different in its own ways. Not shilling for myself, so if you want to hear what I'm talking about, my channel's pretty easy to find.
I think the discussion over his voice is a bit silly and part of a pile-on that's much deserved in areas outside of this. He [or the audio engineer that helped him out] chose very good settings for the type of content he produces. Part of why his voice sounds so deep is because he completely eliminated reverb and echos, and toned down high notes, which is something appropriate to do for someone with a deeper voice. He doesn't force himself to talk deeper [otherwise he would've felt pain from his irritated throat], and didn't overedit his audio [because I don't hear any unnatural distortions or artifacts from the little I was exposed to]. It's basically what is done for radio shows, so imho it's a legit practice, nothing suspicious about it.
And I think if he just said "New mic" no one would have cared. But he said "My doctor told me I Underwent 2nd puberty" https://www.youtube.com/shorts/vtAM3zMuyZ0
This appears to be the same mic, and he's almost as close to it, and he claims its not mic settings that made his voice change. This is why there is discussion about his voice. Because it doesnt make sense
He doesn't force himself to talk deeper [otherwise he would've felt pain from his irritated throat]
Nah, you get used to it. Thats why its called Voice TRAINING.
He's also eating his mic, which anyone can do to bass boost their voice without needing anything else.
He's been rolled up on in irl streams. Sounds the same.
And you think he talked to the sound crew at streamer awards and said “Hey when I speak adjust the mic to these levels. And be sure to adjust it back whenever someone else speaks so nobody notices.”
Dude just has a deep voice. There’s a million reasons to not like him. Making up a voice changer one is not needed.
His voice sounds noticeably different to me in his streamer awards speech
That's because you're not listening to the pitch. It's the same pitch, but the levels on the sound mixing are different. Most mics intended for content creation nowadays that use associated software that has the EQ set to bring out more of the lows. Destiny's mic also does this. My blue yeti does this, I haven't changed the EQ because I don't need to.
You're saying the same thing, but most people don't differentiate between pitch and timbre. He 'sounds' lower because he boosts the fuck out of his lows, cuts the harsher mids, and adds a ton of compression....
Yes the 'pitch' might be fundamentally the same but the voice is a spectrum of frequencies. And yes, most streamers, or professional production for that matter, may do something similar but nowhere near as much as him
Agree with the first part ,disagree with the second part completely. A Blue Yeti does not boost the baas like this. An SM7B doesn't inherently boost the bass like this either.
And if he wasn't tweaking it he would have just been like "yeah, it's the mic" rather than, "I went to a doctor to have it checked out and he said it's a second puberty."
I mean I think most people don’t care about any of that. A person’s “real voice” to most people is what it sounds like in person from a few feet away, not what it sounds like with your mouth right up against a “content creation” mic.
People keep saying "voice changer" as if a voice can only be changed by some gimmicky software. He's speaking into a microphone, and microphone software has settings. Those settings change your voice.
but he's requesting you to go to a convention he's at and see for yourself that he's not using one.
I mean you don't have to, but there is thousand of people at the game awards.
I have no idea why people online are so obsessed with this anywhere. I think CodeMiko has a similar things where some people really started hating her so they had to come up with all these weird conspiracy theories.
People keep saying "voice changer" as if a voice can only be changed by some gimmicky software.
Adding a low pass filter isn't a hard science.
Adding a low pass filter would be absolutely pointless. Not allowing high frequencies would make it sound like he's underwater. You sure you know what you're talking about?
What he's probably doing is boosting the lows a little and applying a generous amount of compression. This does not fundamentally change his voice. It only accentuates what is already there, and he's not using any kind of voice changer, it would be very obvious. Even if it was powered by AI.
When people say 'voicechanger' they usually mean software that lowers the pitch of your voice. You can absolutely download software that does that, or go even further and download professional plugins that not only alter your pitch, but your formant as well, which makes it more convincing but it's still pretty obvious.
So no, no voice changer per say, just good settings.
Yeah, this. Absolutely not a low pass filter. I typed this in another comment but I don't think it's even that crazy low boosted. It's a pretty flat but warm recording. Slight boost in the lows from the proximity effect. His fundamental sits around 100Hz, dipping to 40Hz on 'days' when he drops lower for a word. Which is pretty low but not really that crazy for a male voice. His voice also manages to sound lower when listening back on thin speakers, like a phone speaker, where you're not actually hearing the low end of his voice. Meaning the formant of his voice is low- which if faked, isn't done by EQ, or Compression, but by a voice changer that effects pitch AND formants. (There's a difference between a voice changer and vocal processing like EQ/compression which people in these comments don't seem to understand.)
That said, I really don't think it's a voice changer. I'd guess he's vocal trained his natural voice like Morgan Freeman did (a clip of him when he was younger shows his voice wasn't always that low). The warm mic and some compression helps too.
Someone in the comments below apparently compared the two and heard the difference.
though, you'll never convince these guys. It'll be some audio card difference today, moon position tomorrow etc.
What a difference in mic quality does.
or that, sorry. I had trouble coming up with excuses
You definitely don't have trouble with coming up with excuses, and new ideas for how it's done. Like a lot of people here. You're excuses and conspiracies just go in the other direction.
It's what happens when people naturally talk quietly, or louder. It's what every person does. No one's voice is exactly the same all day. I know my voice does it based on what mood I'm in. And if I'm yelling I usually go a little higher.
I don't get why you're all so obsessed with this guy's voice? What's it to you? It's getting really weird.
says the person who posted 7~ comments in around 30 minutes defending him?
Yeah I remember that clip of him talking to ExtraEmily at the streamer awards and he sounds just the same, but even then pirate software couldn’t avoid giving an answer people can dunk on.
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He is the one that went off about second puberty bullshit. No one would have said shit if he had ignored it or just said it's just what good mic does to your voice.
He’s the one who made it a thing by lying about it though. Maybe go Stan for him elsewhere
Because he's insecure about his nerdy voice, because he talked about some sort of second puberty situation happening, because he insists on being called Thor, the list goes on.
He doesn't feel like a real person.
I made a current PS vs. old PS from the streamer awards clip for those interested in hearing the difference. https://imgur.com/a/p7GJHCr
His streaming voice just feels a bit bass boosted. Nothing else really.
I wouldn't even think it was a problem if thats what he did. I just think it's funny he keeps addressing it.
Honestly probably just a difference in the mic used
Yah I feel like people are digging so deep on this one lol.
100% there is a huge difference when speaking into a professional microphone in a stream room that probably has sound damping foam and all that versus a huge auditorium that's full of open space. Let alone recording audio via video camera probably plays into the "before" videos quality.
I don't really care if he is changing his voice but I do think it's incredibly hilarious to accuse him of it and make him defend it. Thats trolling done right
There are old videos of him with a much higher pitched voice. He says it's a "second puberty," but my guess is it's just him doing YouTube voice which eventually feels natural. A lot of people have done this, e.g., Hasan.
All the shit aside, his voice isn't even bad... why is this dude insecure about it?
Because he's a narcissist and their biggest character flaw is that they secretly feel insecure about everything and use their bravado and false confidence to hide it. It's why they will never admit to being wrong, because then they would have to confront their own insecurities.
There was an older clip of him at a convention and his voice was basically the opposite of how he talks now.
It’s not his real voice.
For anyone wondering what he sounds like when he slips up his deep voice acting: https://youtube.com/shorts/R0pTmVBcCEw?si=8ACuVtWOdgh53Xp4
https://youtu.be/VjUun6owSCE?si=JJrWf13R0ixv_XzX This one is more noticeable. The woman's voice is deeper than his.
shieeeet
idk hahaha! this one is much lighter
You know people's voices fluctuate, right? Not saying he doesn't put it on a bit, but I highly doubt he talks like that normally.
I mean it's basically the same?
Cause it's not his natural voice. It's a trained voice. Nothing really wrong with that but he is extremely insecure about it
However old that clip is, he's clearly a grown man whose balls have dropped, I could see his voice getting deeper but there's no equating the two.
He's not using a voice changer he's just manually speaking with a deeper voice and when he says "How would I maintain it for 12 hours a day?" I feel like that's the giveaway. Well, he just maintains it. Not that complicated. After doing it for so long it must come pretty easy, and at a certain point it would kind of become your normal speaking voice.
He's literally just speaking a little further away from the mic in this clip, so it's not bass-boosting it as much.
We must have different ears because I couldn't disagree more.
Yes it's the same guy so the texture of his voice is the same but being slightly further from the mic just cannot explain how it's EONS higher-pitched from everything else I've seen, especially when we've seen the streamer awards clips where he's speaking in functionally identical setups to this, with the deeper voice.
Being closer to a mic doesn't change your voice THAT much, sorry.
Theres also a lot of noise and likely applied both a low pass and high pass filter.
well i mean at this point hes past the point of return i think
Doesn't seem like a voice changer tbh, just very bassy mic settings
I love to hate on dude just as much as the next but this is very clearly two different microphones EQ’d for completely different things. Sometimes we forget a microphone is capturing frequencies our ears will ignore, and if we buff those frequencies with EQ, suddenly someone can sound completely different. He’s not using a voice changer his mic is just bassy
Well, different microphone setups and different environments, room size etc., all will sound pretty different so there's no real comparison. However, I do believe he has cranked up the bass or whatever on his home microphone, but that's not really a good and fair comparison IMHO
Well that solves it, case closed. Nothing to see here. Voice mods don't exist so he's 100% correct.
"They'll edit it-"
Is he implying the video from his voice at the age of 30 being wildly higher pitched is...edited?
Also the way he randomly brings up trans people if fucking hilarious.
EDIT: I wanna shoutout the three PirtateSoftware fans who spent 20 hours making alts to harass me across reddit after I gave my input on the voice stuff as someone with 15 years in the sound design / audio engineering field, having worked for major television and game studios, lmao. My new Nissan Pathfinder is amazing, I'm sorry you feel like it's a "ghetto car" but I've never seen someone who isn't salty call a 47,000$ car a "ghetto car" lmaooo
No, think he's talking about the scenario in which someone will record him at twitch con and then will edit it at a higher pitch to prove him 'wrong'
Has this happened or is this just some hypothetical he presents to his audience as an excuse for not wanting people to record at the meet and greets, where he has previously used "voice strain" as a reason for his voice at fan meetups lacking and dept or bass, lol.
Not that serious, he's reading Twitch comments
He's reading comments from twitch chat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atuglRrItr4
This old video isn't edited, but the audio quality is dogshit. Even before he starts speaking you can tell the entire clip lacks any bass, with an overwhelming distorted tinny noise in the background. Even the woman's voice sounds like it's coming through a walkie talkie.
I know making this comment is a waste of time and that nobody likes being told "ummm actually" when they're just trying to dunk on someone, but still
As someone who majored in sound design and works in audio I can tell you straight up there is no level of video compression or bitloss that would cause someone's voice to not only change entirely in tone and quality, but in the cadence he talks and leads his words.
As someone who's recorded voice over work for major studios like Adult Swim and Comedy Central I am flat out telling you that "The video is old therefore the quality is why his voice sounds different" makes zero sense because in no world can a loss of bandwidth, bitrate, or even bass/sub-bass tones dramatically change a persons voice that much.
That's like saying "An actor in a movie 10 years ago will have a different quality and tone to their voice, even pitch, because 10 years have passed in audio recording quality!" It makes no sense.
And it even passively admits that he IS using voice / audio software to "adjust" his voice, right...? You're claiming the equipment he uses is better / different therefore more easily Equalized than the equipment used by the interviewer.
Anyways, everyone here on the panel and other panels / interviews recorded by this channel don't sound different from how they do today. So can you explain that...? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4f-zhl1ua8s
As someone who does my own personal mixing and has a pretty good ear and technical knowledge, I'm calling you out for being a complete moron.
First of all, he admitted that he trained for a radio voice, that explains the cadence & tone.
Second, the fucking video you are referencing for his "true voice" has literally all hz below 400 just cut out of it, go analyze the audio from the video and you'll clearly see a big dip in the low end. I almost refuse to believe you have a job working with audio if you can't recognize that fact. In fact, I'm calling you out for completely lying about that.
"And it even passively admits that he IS using voice / audio software to "adjust" his voice, right...? You're claiming the equipment he uses is better / different therefore more easily Equalized than the equipment used by the interviewer."
This quote utterly exposed your incompetence. Every streamer uses "audio software" to adjust their voice. Let's break down that second sentence. "equipment he uses is better therefore more easily equalized than interview equipment".
First of all, what the fuck does "more easily equalized" mean? I don't think that's a term that people use, at all. That's not some inherent quality of microphones lmao The claim is not that the equipment has some magical EQ property, the claim is that his voice is entirely achievable through simple EQing and compression. It's not difficult, AT ALL. It does not require any additional software; anyone can do it with the most basic of DAW software.
As for the panel, it's also not hard to understand. The panel did not have EQ and compression that highlighted bass. The other streamers in the panel do not stream with EQ and compression that highlight bass, thus they do not sound different and Pirate does.
Could you provide any evidence at all that you actually work with audio? Because you genuinely seem to have no clue whatsoever what you're talking about.
I am literally an award winning sound designer. You believing you have a "good ear" is one thing, me living in a house with a two car garage with the salary I make from working in the audio engineering field are not the same.
Everything you said is bordering on ChatGPT levels of zero comprehension of audio design knowledge.
"This quote utterly exposed your incompetence!" And the quote in question is me confirming that every streamer is using audio software because most microphones come with drivers that enable gain/clipping, I know the Blue Yeti even has a lot of dynamic settings and a gain/input knob. This absolutely falls into the category of Audio engineering, you are specifically changing the dynamic and input gain of your microphone.
Secondly, OBS and StreamLabs come with a range of boost, EQ settings, a compressor, noise gate, ect. Adobe Audition also comes with a really strong sub-pass / low end boost specifically aimed at podcasters.
I'm not sure about SLOBS, but OBS has a setting that let's you add vst3 plugins to your input chain, this means industry standard compression and EQ software.
Lemme know when you go to university for 6 years to get your audio engineering degree and when you decide to step up from having a "good ear" for your hobby versus knowing what the fuck you're talking about and not just going "Um actually I disagree, I will not explain a single thing but I will repeatedly say I think you're LYING and proving zero professional reasoning as to why."
Also 400Hz is not low end, lmao. sub 250 and sub 60 are the bass / sub-bass frequencies. You have no clue what you're talking about, dude.
I am literally an award winning sound designer. You believing you have a "good ear" is one thing, me living in a house with a two car garage with the salary I make from working in the audio engineering field are not the same.
Bullshit
You pulled your credentials out and scared em !
Wait till I pull out the "I dated a girl who worked at blizzard therefore I'm better than you." like Pirate's whole "Me and my Dad worked at Blizzard." lmao.
I don't really have a dog in this race, but I do want to mention that you can achieve an effect that makes your voice sound deeper by talking in a specific way really close to a high quality microphone, I do it sometimes as a way to fuck around with my (not super high quality) Yeti mic.
I don't have a particularly deep voice, and I can absolutely make it sound deeper by getting closer to the mic and changing how I speak.
Have Thor backup a few paces from his microphone, and talk in a more normal conversational tone, and I bet he sounds a lot different than on stream.
Bro thinks Ella Fitzgerald actually sounded like a tin can 😭
"+400hz Frequencies did not exist until Blue Yeti Microphone!"
Your example has a very different audio quality to the other one, they're incomparable, with each being bad in their own way, imho.
And the quality of the microphone DOES make more of a difference than not. In the above example, even the interviewer's voice is distorted, tinny, and very far from how a human voice sounds like in reality. And while obviously a streamer's/radio presenter's setup will adjust the EQ and other settings to emphasize the lows, judging a person's speech cadence as proof for fowl play is very strange coming from someone that claims your credentials. You should know that people can change the way they speak the more they become familiar with doing it in front of a crowd/audience, it's not like they're set in stone. You never met an actor that can change their speech pattern on the fly during your stay with Adult Swim and Comedy Central?
Me - "Voice actors can change their voices so his argument that he's not changing his voice because he's not editing it with software makes no sense."
You - "You're claiming you've never met an actor that can change the patterns of their voice?"
If you're not going to read what I say then bug off. Every single thing I said is right up there. Go back and read it.
Saying that both examples have bad audio when the point was the example initially used has bad audio proves my point. The audio is bad, but both consistently bad and from the SAME source. Why would they edit ONLY Thors voice and no other interviews? There's dozens of interviews on the channel but only Thor's is an approved example of "bad audio / narrative based loss of bitrate audio." lmao. Come on, man. I have no horse in this race and even I can begin to see why people dog on this guy, especially when his fans go "Actually this video proves him right." and it's a video that proves absolutely nothing except his fans consistently make stuff up to defend him and he'll just agree with it.
"The voices sound far from how they do in reality." Yes, so does Thor's, hence why people regularly bring up how inconsistent his voice sounds in live settings versus on his streams, because as YOU YOURSELF ADMIT there is blatantly something taking place caused by hardware or software that he is outright denying.
Thanks for taking the longest possible roundabout path to agreeing with me and everyone else that the tone and cadence of his voice is audibly inconsistent despite him denying it even when his own fans defend it with excuses like "the microphone removed all the bass in his voice." or "the 480p quality of the video removed the bass." even though that isn't how codec / video based compression works lmao.
EDIT: Just a reminder the example I gave was EVERY OTHER INTERVIEW on the channel. Scroll up, watch all the interviews. Seeing someone else claim I "cherry picked" an example is insane, all I did was...look at every other interview from that SAME convention via the same channel...isn't presenting the entire channel for context the OPPOSITE of cherry picking?
You can see the same change in Louis Rossmann's new video, "Stop Killing Games part 5", where he replays some ancient videos.
It's just the mic and the way they speak. They learned not to raise their voice randomly, as it's probably distracting for viewers, or maybe they just got tired of doing it.
I've been tinkering with vocals for a little while as a hobby and unfortunately this is one argument that is probably on Pirate's side and we should refocus.
Why are you pretending to not understand that he's talking to chat?
I couldn't care less about his real voice.
What's more maddening is his stance on games preservation.
What's more maddening is him shitting on games like Undertale (literally calling the code "shit") , but not being able to admit that using magic numbers and oddly named variables in his own game is detrimental and instead doubling down that people are out to make him look like a bad programmer. Like I don't care about the voice thing either, but when he can lie like that out of sheer ego there's just zero trust in this guy on *anything*.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atuglRrItr4
This is what his voice sounds like
Not really looking to defend the guy in any way, but he has done plenty of live streams and content since that show his deeper voice matches the stream. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZRUoBa4w7Q - Here is one from when he and Esfand went to a Huskies game in Seattle. Whether he consciously chose to change his voice or not over the years is irrelevant to me personally. I just don't believe he's using a voice mod.
Its not crazy to voice train either. But it'd be weird to voice train and lie about it.
I had a crazy lisp growing up and had to work on 'defeating' it with a lot of dedicated work and training. My voice now is vastly different than my voice at 17. My lisp only comes out when im excited or sleep deprived.
But it takes some dedication to deepen your voice.
I'm not sure either why people keep saying it's a voice changer. Occam's razor is that he chose to change his voice. It's completely possible.
There's a poe streamer SpicySushi who used to sound like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5w4nsSGq510
Now sounds like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wu6PlAs8T84
He has talked about how he deliberately wanted to change his voice and now that's his voice. He starts speaking and that voice comes out. He can't even do the other voice or talk like the other voice without it hurting anymore.
He's way more nasaly in the first clip. Same thing happens to me and it makes my voice sound higher. When I intentionally avoid being nasally my voice comes out deeper.
YES, as someone who has also drastically changed their voice with training, I was thinking that the whole time I was reading through this thread. Tbf I don’t think Pirate ever admitted he trained his voice, so I don’t know, but it’s still pretty fucking obvious this is just how his voice is now.
He talked about it previously about a year ago? and stated that his voice just randomly dropped lower. I wish I had a clip when referencing this but I don't, just memory from attending a stream around the time the current WoW xpac dropped. He claimed that he got examined by the doctor for potential throat/thyroid or adjacent issues since it was a sudden onset.
Just know he claims this was a natural bodily process. He has enough issues going on right now that I think the voice stuff should be the last thing on anyone's radar.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/vtAM3zMuyZ0
He claims it happened naturally
It's extremely obvious he has the gain on his audio interface completely cranked, it's what you call a "Radio Voice" but any moderately priced audio interface has that knob and additionally you can use software to crank it if you want
Idk why he bothers lying about it, anyone who is remotely familiar with what I'm talking about can back it up, it's VERY obvious
t. someone with an audio interface
I think it's called the vocal proximity effect for large diaphragm condenser microphones. Can't remember the exact details but it essentially makes your voice sound insanely deep if you are right up on the mic. Think NPR voice or Stern. Match with a compressor and and an RE20 and any man with moderate voice control can sound close to Darth Vader.
Go watch clips of the Twilight Zone. All men didn't sound like that, they spoke like that. It's an affectation similar to an accent. Markiplier does it as well. Dead giveaway is the lowered chin when speaking. Activates more low range vocal chord vibration. Raising the chin tightens the vocal chords.
Ye, that's why he shoves the microphone basically down his throat, only makes it sound deeper
Exactly this. Most of the work done is thanks to the proximity effect (which means that you have to pretty much kiss the mic to get it) + some extra low-end eq boost. I do the same on a way cheaper mic than a RE20 and yet all my friends on discord say that i have a deep voice and they love it when in reality it's almost the opposite lmao.
It affects any microphone with a directional pickup pattern, most commonly cardioid, and it causes a natural boost in bass. It doesn't actually deepen any frequencies it simply makes the existing deeper ones louder; deep frequencies already exist in all male voices.
You wouldn't use an omnidirectional microphone in this situation because it would unnecessarily pick up keyboard and computer noise, and you should speak fairly close to the microphone to increase the signal-to-noise ratio. He's just using the microphone "correctly" which is why it sounds like a radio voice.
Of course, schizo MFs in this thread gonna say this is somehow an example of him being dishonest when basically all other podcasters also record like this.
I don't like this guy one bit but the Reddit audio experts coming out saying that "cranking gain" gives you "radio voice" is fuckin hilarious.
Gain makes loud, not deep
Mf thinks upping the gain gonna make him sound like James Earl Jones (RIP), whole time he sounding like Tyler1
Gain only amplifies the signal, frequency is not affected. Distortion might give off a different perception, but I'm not hearing that
I can't believe the complete 180 pirate has done since entering the algorithm. This crash out is hilarious 😆
didnt know Elisabeth Holmes is already out of prison
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I just checked out of curiosity, and I gotta say, he sounds the exact same there, compared to how he normally sounds.
And I’m no defender of his. He seems like a jerk, but yeah.
I also dislike the guy and cannot tell a difference in voice. The mic quality is different though
His voice isn't fake.
It's just eq audio processing, not a "voice changer". One could argue that moving the eq bands around changes how your voice sounds, but that's literally what everyone does who has watched a 1 minute video on how mics and voices work.
I don’t care about his voice but it makes me laugh every time he bothers to interact with people about it.
Idk about his voice but fuck Nick
A guy who’s social engineering people can’t believe that people can change their voices to fit a persona? I mean singers and actors do it all the time.
Austin Butler anyone? He trained to sing like Elvis and next thing you know he can’t stop talking like him in real life. Remember the fake tech woman Elizabeth Holmes who was all about social engineering people into believing she was competent, remember her deep fake voice?
Pirate’s absolutely a guy who would do this. For reference people keep saying in real life his voice sounded like his stream voice, like yea he’s faking the deep voice. Here’s proof when he slips up:
Matt Berry can do his voice for decades
Kinda feels like people don't like PS and want to discredit him any way they can. Ngl...it looks like desperate behavior. Just say "I don't like him" and then ignore him.
He did voice training, weird he just wont admit it tho.
I might have a unique view on this since I'm trans , but I think anyone should voice train if they dont fw the way they sound. No shame if a dude doesnt like sounding nasally and wants to change his vibe
The part about this is that he immediately jumps to the most logical extreme regarding it.
“It’s like how trans people do voice training!”
‘Wow, it’s just long hair, that doesn’t mean I’m trans!’
As in being trans is a skill tree prerequisite for doing voice training?..
If he's too ashamed to admit it there's really no need to try and pry it out of him either tbh, I don't like the guy but this is the most milquetoast thing he's "done"
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LUL SECOND PUBERTY GUY
leaves camera frame briefly
“Wait a minute” - voice suddenly deeper
The fake voice allegations bother him so much lmao
"Insane behaviour, this is my natural voice"
- mouth 1mm from the microphone
- bass boosted to +50db
- compressor working overtime
- THIRD PUBERTY INCOMING (caused by stress hormones from people calling him a nepo baby)
Piratesoftware
this is my actual honest to god voice, it sounds no different in person, its because i had a second puberty and have gerd, go check videos of me in person
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well sure he doesn't sound the same in person but thats just because he's using a bass booster and a radio microphone and modulating his voice and training his voice to sound deeper in short sessions in person but hes not quite there yet and different microphones make him sound higher and people are probably editing his voice and his old streams were an elaborate troll. this isnt the own you think it is he didnt lie about anything it just makes you guys look like the silly ones
>asks question
>chatter provides a legitimate answer
>calls chatter an idiot
Well Lilypichu is maintaining it since like 2012 so it's not impossible
Christ, you can literally hear the warping when he laughs
i hate this dude but u gotta be born yesterday if you can't tell that's just noise suppression. 5 minutes in a call on discord with ur friends and you'll hear that effect
I guess his presence just naturally causes complete void in the ~6kHz range
Oh, so he's just mad today and responding to all the drama at once, huh?
It's also not unfeasible that he went to a voice coach/watched videos on how to change the depth of his voice.
As much as I hate pirate, a lot of people are just reaching for the sake of it. I personally haven't heard of a voice modulator THIS good before if it even exists, and there's like, plenty of videos showcasing this voice in irl events.
I saw a comment saying that he's pushing his voice to be deeper(???) Okay, but to do it that consistently is a whole feat of its own, and frankly I just don't hear it at all. Actually pushing your voice sounds way different than this
Yk, just because you have problems with someone and maybe think they're a jerk doesn't mean you have to work hard so you can criticize everything about them possible to further justify your dislike. You can just stick to "I think he has terrible takes" and leave it there.
Not to be a pirate defender but the voice changer allegations are kind of weak. He's been recorded at live events with an identical voice using regular mics and setup.
That clip of him showing off his game was allegedly before his "second puberty".
If you want to get really interesting. Theres a schitzo theory he had voice change surgery.
You need a checkup if you think that’s identical.
Listening to those clips and then the one above his voice is like way deeper now.
He sounds entirely different in that second clip lol.
His voice is considerably deeper now.
Not even close to the OPs video.
are you listening on some 20 year old sven speakers or what?
Idk why he played with his voice changer thingy, it was perfect before and really hard to tell if he was faking his voice or not, now it's VERY clear he has a voice changer or whatever.
I knew him in real life from the badge village at defcon- his voice is NOT that deep
He can change his voice but he can't change his personality
Just so we are clear, I am not a fan of PirateSoftware.
But the comments here are just kind of sad, this just seems like y'all are trying every single possible way to discredit or hate on him for non-sense like this instead of stuff he actually should be (and has been) criticized for, it just seems really desperate.
His voice just isn't fake and even if it is, why does it matter? He definitely has some EQ on his audio setup to give more of a rich "radio" feel, but that does not equate to using a voice changer, and every streamer or content creator who puts effort into their sound at all does the exact same thing. And even if he has done voice training as Ive seen some people claim, who cares? Its still his voice.
People can just have deeper voices or develop them over time, Myself and a lot of other people that I know have over the course of even a few years later in life nearly completely changed how they sound just to aging or other circumstances, its not impossible.
Once again, not defending his recent actions or behaviors, but don't just hate on every minute detail of a person for the sake of just being on the current internet witch-hunt. This sort of shit just borders on harassment, keep your critiques focused to his actual shitty behavior, not stuff like this which serves no other purpose other than toxicity.
OP I don’t care for pirate software as much as the next person but homie this is sad. Respectfully get a life.
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I feel like the people who criticizes him is actually very insecure and they can't stand this guy having a deep voice
I mean, he's just vaguely agreeing with anything he vaguely thinks of correct, and doubling down whenever anyone calls him out.
So nothing new here. And dude is so delusional he doesn't realize he's got one of those audiences now, consisting of trolls and assholes and people actively trying to get him to crash out 😂
people are straight up hate-watching him now, trying to figure out a way to get him to crash out and he just falls for it almost every time. its like a car crash in slow motion; it's horror-fascinating, like "i didn't know a body can bend that way and still be alive"
The birth of another DSP... fantastic, we definitely need more of those. /s
Hey more dyson sphere program sounds great.
lmfao DSP.
It's legitimately just people trying to create another Lolcow. All the good ones are gone or off the deep end, so now they are just funneling to pirate to create a new one. Pirate however doesn't make it better for himself. It's just a shit show from both sides.
It sounds like the money is also falling into his bank account if his viewership isn't suffering. Its possible without the crashouts, everyone would be bored and not care about his opinions, but now apparently people are hate watching. This sounds like a successful transition, that following an initial rise on the stuff he's all gotten out there that will get boring and surely already has, he has transitioned whether deliberately or not, into the parasocial drama economy.
Which is everything he wishes for but nothing he wants.
The term for that is lolcow and it's so satisfying to see Pirate become one 😂😂