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xQc calls out Hasan for calling out Destiny
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That's wild. I hope someone calls XqC out for this.
Destiny should, so it can become a blame oroborous
is there some room for the roach king?
I wonder what forsen would say about it forsenAlright
idk why xQc is so upset about Hasan's C-word usage, he's been going ham calling droids clankers lately and it's honestly sickening.
He's fucking WHAT?!
ROGER, ROGER?
It’s called Hypocrisy and a double standard. He’s not actually upset… It’s just selective outrage, really not that deep.
lmao it's the content creator circle of life
just waiting for someone to call out xQc for calling out Hasan for calling out Destiny
the drama wheel keeps on turning
The wheel in the sky keeps on turning (I don't know where I'll be tomorrow)
Asmon on the way
Im calling out XqC
The reaction videos to the reactions of the callouts of the callouts will be insane
Just need a PirateSoftware cameo to complete my content creator drama bingo card
Wrong, bring out Ethan Klein to complete the set
Ethan Klein didn’t’ cast frost nova! He still has his mana gem!!!!
He can add Pirate to the lawsuits with the reddit mods.
EHD
I think you also need pokiemaine to make another comment that showes how fast removed she is from other people
this just in: Stop Killing Games calls out Pirate Software for calling out xQc for calling out Hasan for calling out Destiny.
/s
We need to go deeper!
Asmongold calls out Stop Killing Games for calling out Pirate Software for calling out xQc for calling out Hasan for calling out Destiny.
Ludwig brings back Mogul Mail to call out Asmongold for calling out Stop Killing Games for calling out Pirate Software for calling out xQc for calling out Hasan for calling out Destiny.
And hed STILL manage to fuck it up! Instead of just adding to the loop like "xqc, where were YOUR friends when you...."
Hed be like "yea, so im going to forward this video to my law team, and they can let me know if xqc said anything worth going after him on.... have fun getting audited, man. Hope it was worth it."
Nobody ever calls me out... 😭
Is 'I know what you did last summer' good enough :) ?
Thank you. I feel so seen 😆
I wasn't gonna go there... but if you're gonna force my hand like that fine;
You're looking great today friendo. The style, The charisma, you are SHINING!
Aw shucks 😊
You're a former alcoholic who snaps their spaghetti in half. You need to break from your old alcoholic ways.
Fooby56 is a shit
Not even xqc’s own subs want to hear his political takes lmao
I wonder why
You’d have to be a bit unhinged to genuinely enjoy watching political streamers.
they are drama streamers now
Who even watches him?
xQc malding at Hasan malding at Destiny malding at Asmon malding at...
The human centipede of reacts
We can go deeper
Can't wait for Asmon to call out xQc for calling out Hasan for calling out Destiny. And then Ethan can call out Asmon for calling out xQc for calling out Hasan for calling out Destiny.
What is Forsen's take
"........Alright."
Didn't Tri-hex have a conversation with him right after this? I thought they were friends.
I don’t know the lore, but isn’t this topic essentially what ended Destiny’s friendship with Tri-hex?
Yes and no. It was the catalyst.
Destiny did the destiny thing of breaking the 'n word' taboo down and the belief he came away with was that while there are negative effects to using it in a public setting, he can and should be able to use it in a private setting with people he knows well enough to engage with it in a non-problematic way.
Trihex was bothered by that take, but for him it was more that he was on stream, emotional, having a really human moment and Destiny wasn't willing to stop being a debate robot and make any concessions / stop doing it in the name of their friendship.
If your entire friendship rests on whether its OK to say a word in private or not, you were never friends to begin with.
Trihex was bothered by that take, but for him it was more that he was on stream, emotional, having a really human moment and Destiny wasn't willing to stop being a debate robot and make any concessions / stop doing it in the name of their friendship.
You had a solid summary, but this part has always bothered me. It’s like my mom crying that I’d become an atheist and why can’t I just go to church? Is it robotic to stand on your own principles because my mom had a “real human moment” and I refused to budge? Should he have lied to Trihex to make him feel better? I think I might have a different perspective if their talk took place in private, but I respect the guy standing by his position. Especially considering both Trihex and Hasan repeated Tiny’s argument, word for word, at other times.
Not sure if this is unhinged on my part, to be honest.
I think it's a situation where there isn't a simple correct answer.
Destiny's take lacks meta-awareness though.
His point has a certain moral logic to it, a slippery one, but he seems to intend 'context matters', and when with friends who understand this, no harm is done. So he advocates for 'use in private'.
But the absurdity of this take is not the take itself. It is where this take is expressed, namely, in a public stream. Which in meta-sense confounds the argument. For the argument implies a select few one is close to may understand the linguistic contextual nuance and intention of specific interpersonal moments, in contrast to 'the public' who don't know one as a person privately, feeling offended or discriminated by hearing one say such words.
Expressing this in front of thousands of viewers, a significant proportion may be more dogmatic. Either absolutist free speech, or absolutists 'context doesn't matter', or "I don't have an opinion because it's controversial or complex." minded.
A point is not easily independent of its forum, so what truly is the point here? And who is it aimed at? If it has aim at all.
So Destiny’s vibes are akin to saying, toughen up, it’s not a big deal if there’s no harm?
Then Trihex is thinking about it pragmatically and is disappointed with how Destiny doesn’t see how hurtful it can be to others by talking about it anyway?
Ideally, wouldn’t you want people to actually toughen up? Reinforcing the severity of the emotional attachment regarding the N word and its history has helped NO ONE. Let’s be honest.
I think severe, fearful emotions are not necessary to maintain awareness of the bad side of history. It’s idiotic as it can be regressive more than anything. Stoic mindsets are the way, people would benefit from not being emotionally volatile, benefits GREATLY outweighing the negatives.
So preferably for his own benefit in optics and to be as moral as possible (?) in the short-term, Destiny shouldn’t have been public on his stance.
It's not unhinged.
I think we often get ourselves into trouble this way; It's easy to look at each aspect independently from a distance, but in the moment they all get tangled together with any number of other prior feelings and experiences.
Rejecting one becomes rejecting the other. The feeling of one blurs into the other.
I don't think destiny was wrong for choosing his beliefs, that handling it was at all easy, or that Trihex didn't have his own problems. But Destiny definitely came across in a really weird way while trying to walk that line, and I can see why Trihex felt he wasn't valued.
Trihex was NOT bothered by this and even explained why he felt he was right. He got bothered by it when Hasan got his grubby hands on him and essentially pressured him into thinking its not fine. I like Trihex, but he is sadly easy to manipulate.
Nah that period was rocky, but I remember they talked about it later (jesus christ just realizing how long ago this was, I feel old). They wereent't super close friends before, and they ended up okay after (idk if I/P changed that)
Yeah. That's my understanding of it too.
Hasan's crew doesn't think that the c word is a slur, which makes xqcs point irrelevant imo. It's just rhetoric from both.
If you google "Clarifying some previous events reddit" you'll find famous the manifesto that ended humanity.
And subsequently Hasan.
What's so funny about this whole N-word narrative Hasan is trying to spin is that Hasan actually agreed with Destiny about his take on the n-word at the time.
Yeah, it is hilarious knowing that many of the pundits that went hard on the gnome have uncritically repeated Tiny’s argument. It was especially hilarious, if rage inducing, listening to the planned ambush that blew up in their face on that one panel. It was that panel that permanently biased me against Hasan; from advocating he just lie to repeatedly misrepresenting the argument Hasan had made himself… clown shoes.
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I’m lost here. What’s the “c word”
Back in my day, it meant cunt. Far better C word.
Cracker. The people that get mad about that word should also get mad about the word Karen or Redneck
People who get mad about words, absent context, are all stupid.
But when people use racial slurs with the intent to insult or deride, then it’s fair to be upset (no matter the slur that was chosen, or even if they do it without slurs).
exactly, intent and context.
it's like people saying "brown hands" in 4chan, I can say brown hands in a conversation, but in 4chan it's a racial insult because the intent and context.
but people are brain dead thanks to social media, logic and common sense goodbye.
I think context and intent is more important than the specific word.
You can even invent a slur, and make it horrible by using it in the "correct" context.
Do people care that George Carlin used the N word in a stand up routine to elucidate the hypocrisy in the English language? What about Mel Brooks/Gene Wilder? No, because the intent is educate and entertain rather than cast derision or make someone "lesser than" in some way.
Destiny, to my knowledge has never used the n-word as an insult, but rather as an example to highlight a point he was making. Hasan, however, uses the "c word" to actually insult, deride, etc.
And by the way, I didn't invent the concept, that's generally agreed upon by the ACLU
People got really comfortable with hating white people. insulting them based off their skin color isn't racist?
exactly
We absolutely should get mad about people using redneck derogatorily, same with hillbilly or white trash. They're class-based slurs and very cringe.
Yass queen
I mean people do (rightfully imo) get mad when it's used to insult people based on skin color or sex no?
When used in a derogatory way? Absolutely
See I don't think that the way you used it is an issue, but it would be if you used to insult someone.
Being a Karen or a Redneck is not an intrinsic property, so it's a bit different I'd say.
intent is what matters, hasan absolutely uses it with the intent of attacking white people for being white. The fact that leftists die on this hill because they want to use the word so badly is pretty ironic.
Are you saying we should also get rid of the stigma around not using the n word as well? Why are some slurs okay and others aren't? Just because some other people's great grandparents owned slaves means its okay for people to make fun of my skin color?
Or are you saying that white people should just suck it up because its just a word? Then shouldn't we say the same about the n word? Equality goes both ways.
If cracker is on the same level as saying the n word, then people shouldn't say redneck or karen
If cracker is on the same level as saying the n word
Yeah call me crazy but I think that calling someone a slur based on their race is about as bad as calling someone a slur based on their race
granted, you are more likely to find a black person who gets offended by it, but that doesn't magically change the fact that you called someone a slur based on their race
"redneck" "karen" aren't racial slurs, they're personality "slurs".
Demonizing a race based on an inherent physical characteristic is far different than "demonizing" a single person (or group of persons) based on their personalities.
I'd say "redneck" and "karen" are both based on intrinsic characteristics. With "redneck" being someone from the southern US, and "karen" being a woman.
You can try to exclude people by saying, "Oh no you're not a karen, only those other ones are karens", but I've heard the same argument made by people using the N word.
The truth is that these are all just based on culture. Trying to come up with logical rules is pointless, because there are none.
At the same time, in 5 years the culture could totally change and suddenly those words are now unacceptable.
Maybe the best thing to do is just not to generalize people or use slurs at all.
With "redneck" being someone from the southern US, and "karen" being a woman.
That's not what either of these mean.
the C word
i mean you people can’t be fucking serious with this shit 🤣
I simultaneously see their point but cannot take "the c word" seriously
Nobody actually takes it that serious, it’s mostly the intent and hypocrisy people get hung upon
Word. Using racial epithets is bad. Bending yourself into pretzels trying to justify using pejoratives targeting innate traits is infuriating. Bastardizing definitions to do so (racism =\= systemic racism) is especially egregious. Either hold that position consistently or stop crybullying and woke-scolding while defending (and acting like) literal racists and antisemites.
It's not about the word it's about how it's used and the intention behind it, the word monkey isn't a slur until it's used in a way that makes it one.
so you're a "leftist" that's okay with some slurs and not others?
the qrazy thing is they both have the same stance on the n-word
and despite that hasan still attacks him on that lol
Because Hasan himself does not truly hold any real "stances" or follow an ideology. It's all performative
Okay we seem to understand the destiny makes edgy jokes about the flood is a direct call out of the ppl on the other side making edgy jokes other tragedies that affect the side the hate. This is a similar argument. If you don't like slurs don't use them. Don't make edgy jokes if you don't like edgy jokes made at your cause. It's either all okay or none of it's okay. You can't use both sides of this when you lose the ability for ppl to take you seriously as being the moral arbiter.
Weird how Destiny community thinks its okay to use the N word but started a ban hasan campaign over the C word… which destiny openly called Hasan on stream… even using racial slurs meant for turkish people. But here we are.
You can use the C word anywhere but LSF lol the most sensitive gamers are here.
How is any of that weird. It’s consistent with the comment you replied to.
Hasan shouldn’t use slurs he thinks is OK if he’s not OK with all slurs.
Despite how you feel about the usage of slurs, it’s a consistent position.
I don't even like destiny. I just think using any types of slurs is a bad thing to do. It's that simple. If your okay with Hasan using cracker how are you gonna expect ppl to take your serious when your critic destiny for using the n word? You give up all of your credibility when you do that and ppl won't take you seriously.
C word is only a slur on LSF, only racist gamers take offense to it. Its not a slur for all white people. You can keep pretending it is, but its not. Dont even try to act like its the same as the N word lol
When did I ever say they were equal? A slur is a slur. If you don't like slurs don't use a slurs. It's that simple.
No one is saying it’s the same level as the n word, they are saying it’s a slur, which it is. Honestly bro you will probably be fine with calling white people racial slurs, because you’re right, it’s not on the level of the n word in the US. Still makes you sorta racist tho buddy.
This is a position nobody holds. Nobody in dgg thinks it’s ok to use the n word but not ok to use the c word. The real position is the outrage that people like Hasan has towards some racial slurs like the n word vs a gleeful enjoyment of other racial slurs like the c word or the g word. A consistent opinion is that the mere utterance of the word isn’t a problem, what is a problem is using a word with the intention to hurt someone. An inconsistent opinion is that the racial slurs Hasan doesn’t use are bad, but the racial slurs Hasan does use are ok.
Brother, this discussion's been had over a hundred times. It's the hypocrisy of acting like saying it is bad that is the issue, not specifically the usage here.
Holy shit.
You can use the C word anywhere but LSF lol the most sensitive gamers are here.
Because its not a common enough slur outside of LSF
Imagine being assmad because you can't call people slurs anymore. I don't care what you think about the word itself, a lot of people probably don't think that n-word is a big deal too
Was anyone in destiny’s community against Hasan saying it? From what I remember the main pushback from destiny and his community was that it was a slur not that there necessarily a problem with him saying it.
Proof that Destiny started the campaign to get him banned? Also, Hasan used racial slurs against Cubans at Destiny, but I notice you won’t bring that up. The idea this is one-sided is so silly, and that’s granted if what you said about him hurling Turkish slurs at Hasan is true
I think you mistook destiny’s community with the black community
You are obsessed
Hey OP, next time include Asmongold in the post title for the grand slam.
The most evergreen thread title in the history of LSF
You’ll never hear them say anything about his Oct. 7 coverage either
Or the “JDAM” incident that he still to this day refuses to admit he was wrong about. I mean if you play the audio back, that was clearly Iron Man
XQC if you think saying cracker is as bad as the n word, and think Hasan should be banned for saying it or that is something that shouldn't be said for being oh so offensive, then you agree with Hasan and should call out destiny for using the N word and get him banned off of youtube and kik.
Unpopular opinion: calling a white person the C word because they're white and you are calling them out for deficiencies you find inherent to the white population is worse than using the N word in a way that is not targeting a black person or intended to harm black people.
It's worse to use the N word to attack black people than to use the C word to attack white people, and it's worse to use the N word than the C word in general. But intentionally attacking people for immutable characteristics is obviously worse than using gamer words to be edgy.
he does call him out for it. also hasan saying cracker targeted at someone is not the same as destiny saying the n word not targeted at anyone. one is obviously worse.
Not the usage being targeted here, but the fact that Hasan is criticising Destiny's friends for not calling him out for using slurs when Hasan's own friends don't. This is Xqc's point.
Not the usage.
so your telling me destiny dropped the nword and it wasnt posted on lsf?
In the human centipede of dogshit content we have arrived very close to the end. All that is missing is Assmold to bring it home.
I'm tired, boss
I don’t think people should be calling people crackers but xqc trying to always equate it to the n-word like they’re at all equal has to be the most braindead shit ever.
C word G word
Birds of a feather.
3 streamers in one title??????
Nightmare clip title
Why is xQc taking offense and defending it lol. Comparing it to C word which was only drama on LSF because of Ds community.
Find anyone that’s not some white guilt savior that thinks it’s okay to use a slur towards someone that’s racially motivated. The difference is one person admitted they’ve used it as an edgy joke in private, the other literally directed it towards that person as a slur. And doubled down.
6 comments in this thread alone on a 2 month alt…
Brother, lay those palms on some delicate, fresh grass 💀
Its a snarker alt. You can see them coming from a mile away when they have the WordWord#### default reddit username and made in the last 6 months. You don't even need to check the comment history.
I just didn't know what username to pick at the time ):
I wonder why a white guy would take offense to a slur directed at white people. Hmmmm. Also, where does he defend it?
C word isnt directed at al white people. Say C word in a room full of white people and you will see the racists get upset. Thats the use of the word.
So XQC is a racist is what you're saying. He's the one in the room upset.
I just said it’s weird to defend the use of the n word, you can get upset however you like
Just don't use either words if you can't defend it, not that hard.
If you're racist be racist. If you're not racist, don't be racist. Hearing this idubbbz argument over and over is pure entertainment. It's like you watched a recording of a white guy jump off a gargbage can and say the n-word in 2012 and it broke your mind
Bro walk up to any white person on the street and aggressively call them a "cracker" to their face and tell me if they get offended or not lmao
Damn hasan and his “c-word usage intake”
What timeline is it that xqc is dropping actual logic and I understand him
I mean, Ludwig did call him once during Mogul Mail (which Hasan got mad about and fans demanded an apology).
Ok but like fuck hasan
not even the juicers want to hear about his "opinions"/ POV's anymore, just take a look at his "close friends circle" it should tell you enough about this slop worm
C word... Cuban?
A little while back someone in this sub mentioned the ability to block specific names from appearing. Can someone please ELI5 how to do that?
I’m just so tired of the dumbest, bottom of the barrel nothingburger content possible with daily spam of [Insert XqC, Hasan, Destiny, Adin, Asmon]’s take on [Insert XqC, Hasan, Destiny, Adin, Asmon]. None of these people matter, and everyone hates each other.
Idk maybe I should just unsubscribe, last good content was OnlyFangs - the T1 arc was peak. This is just sad.
Much appreciated!
So if I’m understanding this properly I have to block the accounts posting it, not the actual streamer names?
Yeah, LSF I think used to have the option to filter out streamers but it seems to be gone. There are a few power users you can block though and the subreddit becomes a little bit more usable. Like the Puppy Monitor guy
or supporting and promoting terrorist groups
Well I’m calling out xQc for calling out Hasan for calling out Destiny
Nobody ever takes calls me out.
I hope Pirate Software calls this out and then I hope Asmongold calls him out
you know what? thats it. im calling out my dog for calling out my cousins lizard for calling out xqx for calling out Hasan for calling out destiny. it just has to be done.
Ayup. Just like them old timey western movies you’d see down at them thee-aters.
They are the spiderman meme pointing out each other's flaws.
Has hasan openly called out his cum town podcast friends for their hard r usage?
Just realized that Hasan literally seems to do nothing wrong in the eyes of his orbiters. That's fucking unhealthy
Content cop that shit
Hasan is an absolute malicious idiot, but are we equating the "C word" to the "N word" now?
We don't really have to. Hasan said the n word on Young Turks. I've never seen him adress that.
Wasn't the entire argument for destiny saying the n word was when he was quoting Jokes or lines that use it? Which if I remember right Hasan has a similar take months later.
standards for thee but not for me
Anyone know any good alternatives to this sub? It felled off
When people say "C-word" i always assumed people meant the racist term people use for Chinese/East Asian looking people. An actual slur.
What's your definition of an "actual slur"? just curious
"the C word" LMAOOOO
Jesus Christ a 'call out' because people don't attack Hasan for saying cracker?
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it’s not really a competition, they’re both slurs.
Beautiful strawman. Literally no one here holds that position or is making that argument
Its not a competition. the n word can be the #1 slur, that doesn't mean its ok to use the #8 slur. A slur is a slur, DONT USE SLURS, ESPECIALLY AS INSULTS
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