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Jewish settlements in Morocco up until 1950
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Really went out of your way to avoid translating "Communautés" to "Communities".
And the map shows all the cities of Morocco with total inhabitants (not just Jews).
Useless map.
OP why did you go out of your way to choose a different word for your title than the one used in the map itself?
“Jewish communities in Morocco around 1950”
Because he’s trying to make it seem like something happened to the Jews after 1950. And something did, they decided to move to Israel. But something tells me OP was trying to insinuate something else…
Like the Palestinians decided to move to Jordan and Lebanon. People love to leave their homes and businesses behind and go be penniless refugees somewhere else, if it’s Jews leaving then it must be their own choice.
I mean Morocco literally tried to ban their jews from leaving so I don't think it's quite the same as the nakbha where they were forced to leave.
Operation yachin shows this was literally them leaving of their own choice.
Like the Palestinians chose to leave on their own, too, despite David Ben-Gurion begging them to stay.
Ahh yes wanted them to stay so bad he started a whole war against them
How do you think that war started?
Serious question. Maybe I've learned the wrong history. Enlighten me how your side sees it, please. I'm serious.
Idk an immigrant group which only came to the country some 20/30 years prior and brought only 3-5% of the land believed that they somehow were to 60% of it (despite buying of real estate not being the same as being able to form your own sovereign nation but whatever).
The native jewish population being only 20% of the population at the time the vast majority being european migrants.
Then after mass tension and conflict occuring due to the rising calls for the establishment of that state they decided terrorism was the best course of action.
The UN for no other reason then post war guilt gave them 65 odd percent of the land based on no real foundations (the idea of it being an ancient homeland for a group that hasn't been then for so many centuries that by then they were a foreign group doesnt really work)
War started because of terrorist immigrants demanding and getting sovereignity based on being European
Open some history books, the Jews absolutely migrated to Israel willingly…
they decided to move to Israel.
Yeah, and all Palestinians chose to move to the West Bank and Gaza.
Entire communities with deep history to the land don't "just move" for better economic opportunities. You're whitewashing ethnic cleansing.
Where were the incentives for moving to Gaza and the West Bank? Surely you can see that it is not equivalent.
What were the incentives of moving to a country none of them had ever seen that only two years earlier was a war zone? Why would you leave a place where your ancestors are buried if not to escape something.
Israel was kind of a shit hole in the fifties, not the capitalist powerhouse today.
Well for one, it’s literally their holy land. The Israeli government literally incentivized and incentivizes the immigration of Jews themselves too.
Nothing about Israel in 1950 screamed "economic opportunity." People fled and Israel took them in considering the past ten years of Jewish history, to Israel never again meant never fuckin' again.
You sound like old white Southerners when they talk about Jim Crow.
Well for one, it’s literally their holy land.
Oh, so you agree that the land belongs to the Jews.
Insane mental gymnastics in this comment, and doesn't even address what the previous poster's said.
Then tell me where the mental gymnastics is?
You comment, but you don't correct.
The guy mentioned that Israel is the holy land to Judaist religion, and you interpreted it as the endorsement of Jewish claim of ownership of it, for starters... Saying "Jerusalem is a holy city to Christians" is a call for a crusade to you?
Idk how much of this is generalizable to the whole country vs how much of this was local at the time, but my friend’s Jewish Moroccan grandparents fled from the country I think around that time. They told stories of violence against Jews, including people they knew being attacked due to them being Jewish. They fled to America in fear of their safety. As I said, idk how generalizable this was to greater Moroccan society, but they were legitimately fearful for her safety when my friend’s decided to visit Morocco for vacation recently.
I know that at least in Algeria, Jewish people were targeted due to the special status and privileges they were given over the other native Algerians. Was something similar happening in Morocco?
“Decided to leave” is a neat way to say ethnic cleansing.
Normalising "settlements".
Just trying to cash in the victim card
Who is a victim?
Assuming OP didn't use this term maliciously or anything, but the term "settlement" probably isn't accurate. That would imply that these were not areas where Jews had lived for many, many centuries, when of ocurse they did.
My family were the Chief rabbis of Sefrou on the map just south of Fes
The title of the map is « Jewish community in Morocco around 1950 » replacing the word « community » by « settlement » insinuates that there were vacant lands occupied by nomadic people, not cities with diverse communities in an establish state.
Are you trying to insinuate that they were chased or something ?
"Settlements" what? Why use this dehumanizing language. If jews are settlers in Israel and also Settlers outside of israel where should they live? Hell?
That is the average reddit take, yes
I mean... any town is a settlement. A city is a settlement. A village is a settlement.
That’s like how I saw Wikipedia once label London as “Human Settlement” as the page descriptor.
Like… sure that’s technically correct. It’s also a weird as hell choice of words. No one talks like that.
So yeah it might be technically correct. But the fact that OP had the word “community” right there on the map but chose to call them “settlements” coupled with the discourse on colonialism and West Bank settlements, are you really going to say that it’s just a coincidence and OP is just a fan of obscure technicalities?
These are only “Jewish towns” in the sense that these towns had Jewish populations. Jews didn’t establish or even comprise a majority of the inhabitants in these towns.
They did in some places, or they were heavily represented. For example, Essaouira (Mogador) was comprised of about 40% Jews who lived in the Mellah (the Jewish Quarter). Nowadays, the Mellah is in ruins, piles of crumbled stone, and abandoned dilapidated buildings.
That still just makes it a city with a lot of Jews, not a "Jewish settlement"
The words "Jewish Settlements" give me the ick. The Mellah was the city's Jewish Quarter. I was just giving an example of a city that had a vibrant Jewish community but was looted and almost completely ethnically cleansed. Nowadays, the tiny synagogue there has a 24-hour guard booth with both police and gendarme.
Sure
Great let's talk about arab "settlements" in Palestine then?
Settlements aren’t bad. Illegal and colonial settlements are bad, like those in the West Bank
Its easy, most jews in historical palestine are settlers (not all tho, some lived peacefully alongside arabs for thousands of years). They should be able to live peacefully in the rest of the world. It is also true that a lot of Israelis belong in Hell, not because they are jewish, but because they are genocidal monsters
You sound like a very reasonable person
Is this just bad translation? Because Jewish settlement is definitely the wrong word here.. Casablanca wasn't a jewish settlement, it's a huge city in Morocco that also had a big jewish population
What's this sub thing with Jews and Israel? I am Israeli and I've had enough of that.. i want to also see some maps of Europe and Asia
this subreddit, like most of reddit, is a political circlejerk, people just want to push their Ideologies
What about Africa?
This sub has exactly one mod who’s barely active, so it attracts a ton of agenda-posters, from all ends of the spectrum.
Israelis are here to justify Israel’s existence by saying that arabs cleansed them from every country so they can strip all Palestinians from their land.
OP appears to be based in Spain and actually seems to post a lot more about Morocco (and Western Sahara) than anything else.
Hes a spanish nationalist with a strong contempt towards Morocco for some reason. Mostly just posts these maps to ragebait moroccans when they see the disputed territory missing.
Personally, Im flattered.
“For some reason”
781 years ring any bells?
It's always funny to hear a Turk talks about ethnic cleansing.
And they did cleanse them from every Arab country, giving them nowhere to go but Israel.
Is there a reason Morocco has more cities on the Atlantic and very few on the Mediterranean?
I feel like this map would be more helpful if it separated or denoted populations of Sephardic Jews versus Amazigh Jews. The latter predating the ones who arrived due to the Reconquista.
Mountains
Nice dehumanizing title
I had a friend who was from Israel but immigrated to the US. His family was originally from Morocco. He told me that after 1948, things got very bad for Jews in every other Arab speaking country but not Morocco. The Jewish movement from Morocco to Israel was slower to take off and wasn’t driven by fear. His family left because they assumed that most Jews would eventually leave anyway. Apparently his family was middle class in Morocco but never did that well in Israel and that had a lot to do with why he moved to the US. He said that Moroccan Jews in Israel had a reputation of getting along better with Arabs than Jews from other countries. He also told me that all the Jews from Algeria left, but they went to France rather than Israel. I thought that was interesting.
I had a Jewish friend from Casablanca and she basically said the same. She left to come to school in the us and her brother lived here too. She was 21 when she moved to the us and is 48 now.
Does "Jewish settlement" now mean any place on earth where Jews live? Is this what they mean by "globalize the intifada"?
As a Moroccan it sounds weird because these aren’t just “Jewish settlements” but cities which had a Jewish neighbourhoods(mellah).
Yeah a literal translation of the map’s title would’ve been way better.
“Jewish communities in Morocco around 1950”
No it means Jews were often segregated into isolated communities. Often in walled settlements or districts.
This was less common outside the Ashkenazi world. That’s why Ashkenazi Jews have a few diseases only they get from inbreeding and Sephardi and Mizrahi Jews don’t, and why Sephardi and Mizrahi Jews tend to dress like the locals and speak the local language while Ashkenazi Jews have communities that practically dress in uniforms and speak mainly Yiddish.
Sounds familiar
This is basically just a map of Morocco, not of Jewish population or what ever it claims to represent. There were 300,000 Jews in Morocco in 1950.
How many are there now?
Around 2000 by some census stat IIRC.
Dunno
Where did they come from?
They fled there as early as 6th century BCE, over two thousand years ago:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Morocco
A very different story than the arrival of Islam to the area of course, which was an arrival on a red carpet of blood after repeated and unceasing crusades.
What's your point?
Grandparents lived in one of these "settlements", think its time to make aliya
Where did they go?
Israel and the US.
A lot of them went to France
Invaded Palestine
The least Morocco obsessed spaniard we know that you are on mission posting Morocco's map in half
I had a feeling he's a Spaniard
confused by the use of the word settlements in that title. where there also christian, muslim, and atheist settlements?
Ive been to Casablance where the last few are. The vibe is kinda weird, theres a nice synagogue which has opening hours and on Google. But turned us away because we weren't Jews. Got the feeling they dont like attention.
No, it's not that at all. Synagogues pretty much everywhere other than Israel and the US are under heavy security due to routine acts of violence against the Jewish community. For example, I went to Rome and I am Jewish and they told me at the grand synagogue in Rome that I would need to come back for services rather than just pop in for a look. And the person who told me that was holding a submachine gun at a locked gate. That's not because we want it that way - that's because the antisemites of the world created this reality.
Well i disagree. Ive been to synagogues all over Europe, all have been very welcoming. Some of the larger ones have security checks which make sense, I dont really care about that.
Just dont get why you'd advertise a place open and then be closed off. That was unique to Morocco for me.
I didn't say they were not welcoming, I said they are under heavy security. Most of the security is not even noticeable. I've seen plain-clothed security across the street blending in with folks at a cafe once. It's definitely not unique to Morrocco.
Idk what to say lol. Its you who brought up security
There are a lot of Moroccan Jews in Canada that immigrated for better economic opportunities. I’ve worked with several.
Communities, not settlements :>
my Jewish ancestors were given refuge in the Ottoman Empire when expelled from a Spain. Although to be fair they came to Spain as Amazigh invaders. My mother and her family found refuge in WW2 in Morocco.
History is more complex and nuanced than sound bite popular received history and there are no absolutes. Jews left Morocco for a better life in France, South America and Israel, towards a commitment to a Jewish state and from a fear of persecution. They are more closely linked to the native Amazigh community (which has it’s own issues)than the colonising Arab one, but far from exclusively.
Genuine question, we often hear the term Sephardic Jew for Moroccan Jews, and it looks like this term englobes also the Amazigh/Berber Jews that lived in Morocco before the expulsion of Jews from Spain.
According to AncestryDNA testing, I am myself a descendant of Moroccan Jews (although technically born into a Muslim family), I wonder how to determine if I’m a descendant of Berber Jews or Sephardic Jews from Spain.
It is horrific how much genocide has been penetrated against the Jewish people.
They went from a reasonably healthy diaspora, to having only a tiny silver of land surrounded by those that want to finish the job.
They have less land in the Middle East now than 100 years ago. But somehow they are the bad guys
I am from Essaouira (Mogador) and my grandma definitely remembers times when more Jews were in the city, but more and more emigrated out of the country; it should be noted that is due to the fact that many Jewish families had the financial capabilities to do so.
Please let’s not turn the comments to a war zone.
Can we just call them "towns"?
Can we not post AI generated maps? Just use software to actually make the map. This looks terrible.
That version looks much better than this post. This post was clearly edited by AI, and looks much worse because of that. The text is warped and illegible.
The original is here. It's way higher quality and not destroyed by AI filters. You can actually read the place names.
I get a map like this showing up on my feed every day despite not subscribing to this sub. It’s ridiculous.
That’s how Reddit works now. If you engage with a sub (even if you ended up not following it), it will keep being recommended to you.
You will also start getting recommended subreddits similar to that one.
What you should do is click on the “not interested” or “show less of this” or whatever button it’s called. Just commenting again will only tell the algorithm that you want to see more of it, not less.
Beni Mellal actually has around 200k inhabitants
Spanish propaganda
It's a French map actually.
Jews apparently deserve the world
Zionism is racism
Creating a jewish state in one's ancestral homeland is racist? Jews come in all races so if you insist on thag take maybe use a different word
so what ?
I have to ask, did the state of Isreal really helped local Jewish communities thrive, or actually caused them to leave their homes.
What? Are you trolling? Jews were deported from MENA countries in revenge for Israel’s existence.
Israel did nothing other than offer a safe place to live for those who were robbed and kicked out of their own countries
lol the Israeli government literally paid the Sultan of Morocco for every Jew he deported.
Looks like AI
When I lived in Marrakech back in 2016 we got to meet the local head Rabbi. He still ran this tiny (but ornate) synagogue and was super chill/funny. Apparently there’s a big Jewish cemetery there too. I don’t remember everything he said, but a lot of the artisans that helped with some of the older architecture in the country were Jews that fled the inquisition and settled south, in Morocco.
Iirc the Jewish population in the city had shrunk to dozens.
Yeah Jewish cemeteries are big but no one visits them. And Jews were known artisans but mainly as metal workers, jewellers etc I never heard them being architects(because Moroccan architecture uses Islamic symbolism). Jews also were famous musicians because a lot of consider certain type of music prohibited, some of Morocco’s classic songs were originally Jewish.
Some Jews (like Yemeni Jews) very rarely or never visit cemeteries, that's part of their tradition. And some (like Hassidim) visit them often, especially cemeteries when a famous rabbi is buried. I don't know much about Moroccan Jews.
One thing I was struck by when I visited Morocco was the pride Moroccans seemed to have in their country's Jewish history and how many of them seemed to sort of mourn the loss of the Jewish community.
Granted, the history there is far from perfect (it isn't perfect anywhere) but there really was a good deal of harmony, and I do get the sense that many Moroccans feel a part of their country was lost.
Of course Jewish history in Morocco is older than Arab one. Many families had Jewish friends and they are just like us my family has a Jewish last name and we are Muslim it just shows how close we. We also have similar struggles we both endured the reconquista and we both fought against colonialism in Morocco.
And yes it wasn’t perfect, my family records that the time around colonisation and decolonisation were periods of time where anarchy was rampant. Poverty was unbearable and we still were living in an unfair system made to serve for the European colonisers.
But we never gave into sectarianism.
Judaism is a much older religion, I imagine it came it with the Phoenician’s from the Levant right?
Also Berbers are such a good looking lot, and Morocco has the best food in the world. I can feel my Laotion and French sides looking down at me with ire.
It’s not impossible but as far as I can find there’s no hard evidence for a jewish presence in Morocco before the third century CE.
The history was beyond "far from perfect" to the point where 99% of the population fled. It's easy to wax nostalgic decades later, but diaspora Jews are still not legally able to move back.
Literally one of the king's counselor is jewish and migrated to France in the 60s not sure how they are not allowed back. Sure Israeli passport wasn't recognized till recently but they can get a moroccan passport and they do visit for pilgrimage in different cities.
Don’t believe hype… I a (Yemenite Jew) work with a bunch of Moroccan Muslims… They absolutely love us… lol 😂 the Jewish hate propaganda is wild out here. Go break bread with some Moroccans! Don’t let fear Cloud your experiences in life.
The surge in post-colonial Moroccan nationalism and incidents of mob violence (both in Morocco and in other MENA countries) were a huge motivating factor but I think the insinuation that every Moroccan Jew 'fled' overlooks the extent to which many Moroccan Jews migrated to Israel of their own volition. Many were simply looking for greater economic opportunities. A great many others felt a sense of duty to support the fledgling Jewish state.
Yeah, going to need a source for this claim... Moroccan Jews are legally eligible to return and regain their citizenship. That includes those who emigrated to Israel, with whom Morocco normalized relations a few years ago. In fact it was emigration to Israel that (on an official level, at least - it was not widely enforced) was outlawed in Morocco in the mid-20th century.
Moroccan Jewish history is waaaay more nuanced than in pretty much any other MENA country. In any event, the modern Moroccan national narrative heavily emphasizes its historic pluralism and I think that's both accurate and a dam positive development in a Muslim-majority MENA country.
You get that this is a pretty clear sign something fucky is going on, yes?
Israel was a shithole at the time.
It isn't as black and white as you guys make it out to be. Mob violence probably did play a significant role in Jewish migration but the simple creation of Israel motivated a lot of Jewish communities to emmigrate as well.
In India where Jews were not only a protected but also favoured minority, many still went to Israel despite the considerable amount of wealth they held here in India.
Mostly that the Moroccan government was at the very least claiming to prevent it in opposition to a state they did not recognize and were actively hostile toward.
You understate how bad conditions were in post-colonial Morocco. Israel represented much greater opportunity (especially for Jews in a period of profound political instability).
I'm not suggesting Jews were not given ample reason to leave Morocco particularly at that time. But there is no denying that Jews in Morocco lived in much greater harmony than in virtually any other Middle Eastern or North African country (and most European countries) and are a central part of its history and population. Morocco is an historically pluralistic society.
That Moroccans celebrate their Jewish heritage and mourn the loss of the country's Jewish community today doesn't suggest that Jews had no reason to leave in the mid-20th century. Anyone suggesting they didn't is obviously pushing a political narrative to minimize the necessity of a Jewish state.
But they did enjoy a great deal of harmony in a largely pluralistic society, and the Moroccan royal family in particular was an historic ally that is today doing a great deal to mend divisions.
Not only was Israel an economic shithole in the 1950s, there was active racism from Ashkenazism to Sephardim/Mizrahim.
That tells you just how bad the racism and violence was in these MENA communities. Nobody wants to uproot their entire family. Sell any property they can't carry. Leave their culture behind.
Yes, the Moroccans liked having their Jews. I've spoken to quite a few old Moroccans and out of dozens, only a single one spoke fondly of living in Morocco as a child. After the establishment of the state of Israel, an American group paid the Moroccans $500,000 to let the first wave of Moroccan Jews move to Israel - and the price per head at the end was over 20 times the price per head at the beginning.
And let's not pretend that Israel was a nice place to be at the time. There were no natural resources, constant terror attacks, the immigrants were living in tent cities, food was expensively imported and often not available in sufficient quantity, and malaria was rampant. But all that was better than staying trapped in Morocco.
What? They were able to AND still are able to move back. The state of Morocco LITERALLY even banned them from travelling to Israel at one point. Jews gave their keys and and property to their Muslim neighbours for if they came back by any chance.
Moroccan Jews in transit camps in Israel literally URGED their family to stay in Morocco because Israel was far worse.
The Jews are constitutionally protected.
Now do Jews everywhere else in the Arab world
Refuting the false claim that Jews aren't legally allowed to return to Morocco is not the same as denying the prevalence of anti-Semitism in the Muslim world. Talk about shifting the goalposts...
Let's be honest here: you're interpreting the statement that Jews were an integral part of Moroccan society as suggesting there was no need for a Jewish state, or that Moroccan Jews had no reason to fear for the erosion of their rights or their safety in Morocco's post-colonial era.
That's not entirely unfair, because I've seen people make arguments along those lines myself. I'm also a Zionist and I think that argument is stupid. But you can also simply approach it honestly and ask if that's what people are attempting to claim.
Because I've seen OP on other threads and know that's his MO.
Moving the goal post
It's absolutely tiresome with you guys to talk too...
I’ve also heard Moroccans say this, sounded like ‘no no no don’t believe what you’ve heard, we’re actually very nice and 250,000 Jews just left for no reason’.
I heard a mix - and you're right that was part of it for sure.
But some actually acknowledged that, during the post-colonial era in the 40s and 50s, things did get bad for Moroccan Jews. There was a tonne of political instability and "Moroccanization" of previous colonial institutions which manifested itself often in anti-Semitism. I wouldn't suggest they were like, apologetic or anything - they seemed mostly to blame it on the chaos of that time. But 'regretful' might be a better word for it?
In any case, it does seem that the Moroccan national narrative in the modern era is really constructed on its pluralism and, in many ways, its distinctness from the rest of the Muslim world. That celebration of their Jewish history seems to be a big part of that.
I think that's made it a lot easier for their government to normalize relations with Israel and is generally a positive thing (and like, not horrifically ahistorical).
Sure, at least they’re not just saying ‘we hate Jews’ but it comes off a little convenient when you hear them talk about tolerance of other beliefs now when 99% of them are Sunni Muslim. Whilst I believe there was support for the Jewish Moroccans from the monarchy, apparently Israel paid the Moroccan government for each migrant which suggests a degree of complicity and willingness to remove this community.
Yeah that's fair - but you're also overlooking the country's ethnic and linguistic pluralism today. Remember, only 44% of Morocco's population is ethnically Arab. So celebrating the country's Jewish heritage is in some respects an extension of this rhetoric of national pluralism that they exercise today.
Yes, the royal family was and is an historic friend of the Jews. I don't know if I'd characterize participation in Operation Yachin as evidence of anti-Semitism though. The pressure from the Arab League was explicitly not to permit migration to Israel at the time (and this was, of course, the official Moroccan policy).
You just hand waved away the expulsion of almost all of Morocco’s Jews as “not perfect.” Are you disappointed that some remained?
“All” LOL I can give you source for Moroccan Jewish experiences in Morocco if you want or current Moroccan Jewish experiences because they would disagree with you.
You described the reason Moroccan Jews fled Morocco as “not perfect” and are now defending that description. I’ve done all I can.
Woke culture at its finest finest. A person is giving you a nuanced response in the previous comment and yet you’re here trying to justify the idea you have of history rather looking at actual history.
Nothing is perfect, not all experiences were similar. Were there targeted attacks, sure were people scared, sure. But that is still happening are we now going to say that Jews are fleeing places like America or being expelled from it?
We should look at large scale institutionalised targeting of Jews.
My whole family went to Tanger for holidays to the place of a family friend and we (as jewish) visited the street of the sinagogues that basically were just 2 very old ones and my father made a huge donation, the rabbi spoke spanish or better said ladino and was a very funny man. We went to Tetouan, Fez, Marrakech, Casablanca, Rabat... but past Fez I barely remember because I got sick (bad idea to drink water from some kind of spring), basically my memories of Casablanca are "wow this is a big city", and while driving I was amazed and we laughed when our friend pointed out "this villages do not have electricity but as you see there is a mosque, turkeys, watermelons, and donkeys" and it was true, so many people riding donkeys or donkeys carrying watermelons for some reason. The palaces of the king, at the time Hassan II, were amazing, and also kinda amazing that so many people were agaisnt him, I even saw a police "charge" against some people that didn't want to hang the picture of the king in their business. And corruption... so many corruption, we went any direction we wanted and if the police came our friend would give them money and that's it.
Tanger was amazing, I was a kid (around 16) and I was able to go outside by myself because so many people spoke spanish... and when I arrived to the bazaar and someone asked me where I was going I only had to say the surname of my friend and suddenly everyone was extra friendly. I don't know how it is now, but back then Tanger was no different from a spanish city, the more to the south the more different. Years later my sister lived in Tanger for years and met her husband there, while he was sexton in the cathedral, and they got married there.
you sure the guy spoke ladino? in tanger it's quite normal for the older generation to speak spanish rather than french so it might just have been spanish. the languages aren't very different so of course it's easy to be proficient in both but i wonder how spoken ladino was in north africa in the 20th century, for it to survive.
There is a great clip where a guy questions leaders of middle eastern countries asking “where are your Jews?”. There used to be hundreds of thousands in so many countries.
Other than Israeli incentives to the Jews (Iraqi-born Shlomo Hillel, also a former speaker of the Knesset, Labor Party, claimed: "I do not regard the departure of Jews from Arab lands as that of refugees. They came here because they wanted to, as Zionists.")
Mossad also threatened and b0mbd the Arab Jews, they wanted to bring all Jews and populate their new settlement. And at first, Arab/Mizrahi Jews refused to leave, but also Arab states refused to lose their population. But the threats started by the mossad, mostly indirect, kidnappings, even b9mbed a synaggue in Iraq to tell Jews they aren’t safe in Arab lands. Similar failed attempt in Cairo, read about the Lavon Affair.
The new post WW-2 Arabs states, forming a new secular nation states from colonisation which created an Arab identity more than the Islamic tolerance one, hence more religious tensions, mostly because of the formation of Israel.
Try not to be stupid and imagine yourself in their place. Why would you go to a country that bombed and kidnapped your neighbors? People really do think the Mossad is some divine entity that can hoodwink the arabs into ethnically cleansing their countries of jews.
Don't forget Algerian Jews sided with the French colonisers and moved to France, then Israel, post independence rather than stay in their Algeria and accept losing the privileges that the French gave them over their fellow Algerians.
Israelis just love to play victim.
Similar to how the Palestinians sided with the arabs armies, so the jews should have cleansed palestine from the Palestinians?
It’s always a treat when Algerian nationalists show up on I/P threads and you ask them about their ethnic cleansing.
No it isnt.
It’s amazing how people will justify ethnic cleansing in some contexts while calling it out in others. Did the Jewish babies decide to side with France, too?
Your justification for expelling 99% of Algeria’s Jews, which the state formalized by denying citizenship to non-Muslims - they sided with the other side in the war for Independence - is an exact mirror of the Israeli justification for the Nakba when the Jewish state was invaded by 5 Arab armies. Except Algeria’s ethnic cleansing was complete, while there are 2 million Israeli Arabs within the 1967 borders today.
It’s almost like Algeria was very discriminatory to Jews and they left
“Expulsions never happened but if they happened, then the blame is on the Jews“.
“Jews just love to play victim.. ah I meant Israelis”
It’s nice to see some sanity and critical thinking left in the cesspool we call the internet
Believe me I’ve arguably seen worse stuff today.. You can check my comments.
Most of them left
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Million_Plan