Minecraft
Steel Tool Sprites
I know,it's just a re-sprite. Still,not as bad as I thought :)
Discussion
I think steel would be a good tool set and armor between iron and diamond.
Agreed. But most importantly, there could be a branch where steel tools can be upgraded to diamond or netherite.
Steel could be equivalent to diamond, but unable to be turned into netherite. Steel would need to be made in a blast furnace after you combine a block of raw iron and 2 of either coal or charcoal to make Iron Blend, makes 1 steel ingot per blend, that way the iron actually means something. Upgrading an iron golem to a steel one means it’d be able to hold up against a warden or wither at least somewhat. Combining an ingot it an armor upgrade template at a smithing table would make it much tougher, meaning you’re rewarded with more protection, granting you greater knockback resistance than a diamond set. The only caveat would be you can’t enchant the head or boots with anything water related, as it will cause you to sink to the bottom of any water or lava source greater than a block (cuz heavy af)
The fact that it takes raw iron rather than iron ingots to me is enough of a caveat. The no water enchants seems unnecessary. The fact that it uses raw iron is a good caveat though, because it makes it non renewable like the other two top tier armors (if you don't count diamond armor villager trades).
Like if iron was rare…
I like the idea that steel is between iron and diamond, but can be upgraded to a tempered steel ++ that's equivalent to diamond and that's as good as it can get. So in order to get better you need diamond to still get netherite
Plus, it’s relatively renewable, as you can often find plenty of raw iron in the beginning of the game, meaning once you get iron, you could get steel right off the bat. Though it’d be the same armor strength as iron, since it requires smithing templates in order to temper it. A full set of steel armor would be able to let you collect your diamond armor without damaging it, though to produce the template, you may need some netherite scrap, a block of steel, and 7 diamonds. Something somewhat difficult so as to keep progression 1:1 ish
I'd go another direction. Two "diamond materials" would break progression. Give people options. Slower that diamonds, faster than iron, but takes a hell of a long time to break (I'd say 20% longer than diamond) and can't be upgraded to netherite nor can it mine obsidian. Gives people the choice of, hey, do I want it to last longer but not be as fast, or be faster but not last as long. Also, I imagine it could last longer than netherite, which opens up two progression paths. Speed for durability, or durability for speed.
If you want a more well-balanced one, you can have Leather<copper<Iron<steel<diamond<netherite But having something that gives knockback resistance would be what steel does. Hell, maybe you don’t even need steel armor. Let’s say you get a smithing template, and you use it with steel, then you can boost the durability and knockback resistance on armor, and increase attack by 2 points for weapons and tools. Using steel to upgrade a golem or make a few pieces of tech, like a wrench for turning redstone pieces, or using it to make a steel hopper, which has a bigger inventory, meaning much bigger pieces of redstone tech could be introduced. Steel is pretty durable, you could potentially enchant the ingots in order to imbue the weapons or armor you decide to temper with the ingots. A steel bow would be nice to have. Plenty of things you could do with steel.
Charcoal and Iron because iron plus carbon,
Wouldn’t coal work as well?
It should, and theoretically diamond should work, but no one is going to use a diamond to make steel IRL or in game. It's too hard and pointless
Yea i played a pack with both as an option
Perhaps it does not even need to be so linear, what if tools could branch out with their functionality.
For example maybe steel pickaxe could be as fast or even faster at cutting stone than diamond, but have less durability and be unable to break obsidian.
That'd ultimately just result in more inventory clogging as you carry around multiple sets of tools for different things.
There's actually a mod (albeit a beta 1.7.3 mod) called Better than Adventure that adds steel tools which are in between iron and diamond, it's slightly slower but has way more durability.
This is just the copper issue all over again, why waste time getting a full steel set when you can spend it getting diamonds which take like an extra half hoir
Yeah 297 iron just for a full set of steel armor and tools is crazy, and that's not even including smelting time
Could be make it to iron like like how copper is to stond
Same grade just higher durability
Flint and STEEL!
The perfect combination
I appeal
It would be cool if it was between iron and diamond it can mine obsidian but steel would just be slower than diamond
Though with how easy diamond is to get there wouldn't be that much point to something that takes extra effort to get.
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Everyday, we get closer to modded Minecraft.
It would be cool if we got more upgradable sets like diamond -> netherite, iron -> steel
Turtle helmet -> FUCKING SCUBA GEAR HELL YEAH
Copper -> Bronze
Leather -> Fabric
As cool as bronze is, I'd honestly love for copper to be mixed with gold into rose gold as a more durable, maybe around iron level armour with the same speed, perhaps faster than gold tools.
I don't think rose gold armor needs to be more durable, just have its color palette be in between copper and gold and keep the enchantment cap of gold.
I mean it would be more durable from a logical standpoint, alloys are often more durable than their original, and in real life that is the case for rose gold. I think it being as fast as gold, durable as iron armor & providing the same level of protection as chain with damage being identical to iron for all tools, whilst also having the benefit of making piglins not aggro on you would give it plenty of reason to exist as a way to get fast tools earlier on whilst not having the longevity & protection/damage of diamond or netherite.
Also, it'd just look cool as hell, we've only really had armor be bland or in cold tones, or just, pretty much plain black. So something like a pinkish color would stand out really nicely.
Honestly kinda works for an iron texture as well, if you wanted consistent iron (eg. Cauldrons and Minecarts are dark) as well as to distinguish diamond if you wanted a more accurate “clear” colour.
Maybe steel could be differentiated from iron by giving iron some kind of rust mechanic?
Doesn’t copper rust?
copper oxidizes but only the color changes really
"rust" is specifically the type of oxidation that iron receives, which causes it to lose its structural integrity and overall diminish over time
That would be fun
thats a good netherite sprite
too similar to netherite
I made a suggestion/(addon) that adds steel to a serve as the gear between iron and diamond, check it out!
https://www.reddit.com/r/minecraftsuggestions/s/pN6WZkrh94
If I could add it, it would be an upgrade for iron, similar to how diamond is for netherite. (Addons don’t support smithing upgrades yet)
Also if you play bedrock and want to download it let me know!
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The ability to craft a steel hilt (handle) for weapons and tools would be awesome, and could just add onto any already made tool/weapon.
Lead tools
This would've been a thousands times better than copper tools but knowing Mojang I am sure they would've found some way to make it useless and underwhelming either way
Nice design id say
Would be nice if it was slower but more durable than diamond, like a side-grade. Basically BTA steel.
It's the other way around isn't it? Steel is white and iron is black that might explain cauldrons and hoppers have a different color than iron armor because they skipped the part where you turn the iron to steel.
Maybe, but I won't mind for extra steps
noice.
I feel like it would be better that diamond, but not as good a netherite
It would be much less gringy tho too
would it be the replacement for iron in the f&s recipe
Good old fashioned steel
Wow, this is really cool
Thank you :)
Loks better than netherite honestly
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Looks like a combination of iron and netherite
Coal + Iron equal Steel lol
Something that bugs me about iron is that some iron items are totally a realistic iron color, but some are the color of steel.
Iron makes some things (tools, armor, ingots, nuggets, blocks of iron, iron golems) that have the bright gray, nearly white color, but also many things that have a darker and more realistic iron shade (hoppers, anvils, chains, iron bars, cauldrons, rails).
I propose that we make iron the color you've made here and make it consistent, while we get steel tools and blocks that look how iron currently looks. One of the things I actually really liked about the Minecraft Movie is how iron was still shiny, but they also gave it a more realistic darker color.
EDIT: This post made a really good concept for how iron blocks should be colored IMO.
Poor man’s Netherite.
One semi-realistic pathway to steel might be to require iron ingots to be smelted using coal or lava (only) as fuel, in a blast furnace (only), where the iron ingots are re-smelted into "scrap iron nuggets" or "steel scraps" (whichever term seems better). Combine nine of these nuggets or scraps into a scrap ingot, then the scrap ingot would be put on an anvil and "hammered", converted to a steel ingot that you can then use to craft any steel item.
A lot of the complaints about copper seems to be that iron now needs to be reduced in commonness to compensate, but if it takes a lot of (pig iron) to make steel, nine scraps to an ingot and multiple ingots to make tools, weapons, and armor, then you don't have to worry about tweaking iron generation.
A player will start in the copper age without really needing to pick up much coal unless they really want to. When they begin replacing their stuff with iron items, they still can smelt with wood and things. But to get into the steel age they will have to have the blast furnace, the coal (or lava if they can get it), and a working anvil.
Nugget texture?
I'll make them later
I think steel would be a cool gateway from iron to diamond, but honestly these days I think there desperately needs to be multiple more armor sets past diamond and netherrite, or at least on par. It is so easy to get full diamond armor nowadays and kind of hard (not really, its just more annoying) to get netherrite.
Also, a way to strengthen armor past enchantments would be an awesome way to bring back some of the viability of using iron, gold and copper.
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I prefer this over copper armor, this actually looks good.
Thanks buddy ;)
It’s good, but I feel like it should be lighter/have an obvious difference from netherite, even if steel is darker irl.
Like, something like the stone gray, but in a slightly blue hue, with shine, could be nice for Steel
Agreed
Iron tools are already steel
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Medieval steel was made by cooking iron in a bloomery furnace with charcoal, which would diffuse carbon into the iron.
So pretty much, yeah
The iron tools/armor in game are silvery. They aren't wrought iron. The shiny iron color actually looks more like steel than most steel mods, which usually go for a darker gray
That's an interesting fact. Still, I prefer dark steel ;)
This literally looks exactly like netherrite
so it would be harder to craft flint and steel if steel will be rare..
netherite at home...
Dude, that just looks like iron but melted at high temperatures then adding carbon, waiting for it to cool, then refining the resulting metal to create a steel alloy.
this looks so much better than the copper ones
Thx buddy ;)
Mojang should've added Steel Items instead of Copper. No one asked for Stone tools Mk. 2.
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