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Could a billionaire buy Reddit and just shut it down immediately?

Maybe not specifically Reddit, but could you buy a company just to shut it down or are you not allowed to do that

https://www.reddit.com/r/NoStupidQuestions/comments/1luouf1/could_a_billionaire_buy_reddit_and_just_shut_it/
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Namika

They could, but then another entrepreneur would see there was now a vacuum ready to be filled and they would make a Reddit clone...

1 day ago
Double-decker_trams

I, along with quite many current users, were a part of the Diff exodus for example. Not the same, but similar. (People were unhappy with a Digg update and just started posting Reddit posts).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digg#Redesign_and_mass_exodus_to_Reddit

Man, it's already 15 years this August. Time flies.

1 day ago
sgunb

You obviously aren't aware of Lemmy. The FOSS community doesn't need companies or billionaires for that.

1 day ago
736384826

He’s not aware of Lemmy because it’s nowhere near as good as Reddit 

20 hours ago
DogSuicide

Lemmy is shit

1 day ago
Midgedwood

Reddit still exists so why would you need to seek alternatives.

1 day ago
Grittybroncher88

It’s called digg

22 hours ago
Silly-Gooper

that is exactly what search-engines did with each other in the early 2000s and google won. or social media platforms and facebook/meta won. or videoplatforms and youtube won.

basically thats how monopolys are created

1 day ago
Remarkable_Table_279

Happens all the time…just look at Joann’s

1 day ago
NotYourScratchMonkey

Isn't Red Lobster having a similar issue? Private equity firm purchases the company and then decides (or it was in the plan all along) that the value is in the real estate of the locations and not the brand so they sell the land to make their money.

1 day ago
Remarkable_Table_279

Probably. Don’t care for seafood but I do like to craft 🙂

1 day ago
3lm1Ster

I dont know all the legal stuff behind the scenes, but for the past 4 years, the 3 Joann's near me have been going downhill. A lot of the time, the shelves had tags for 3 or 4 different types of one item, but there were only 1 or 2 things stocked. The fabric was almost never displayed correctly, like stuff was just shoved wherever there was an open spot. And they had new coupons going out constantly.

The "official" reason for closing, was that people are not crafting anymore, so sales have dropped drastically.

5 hours ago
Illustrious_Hotel527

Reddit's market cap is $27B; probably would cost a premium of $10B more to buy the whole company.

Theoretically, the new owner could just shut it down, but it's a waste of $37B or so. Could also asset strip it like Carl Icahn did to TWA in the 80s, but there isn't much infrastructure behind Reddit comparatively.

1 day ago
UCFknight2016

No, because no one would ever agree to give them funding. you think billionaires use their own money for things?

1 day ago
AccomplishedArm1699

We can only hope, yes.

1 day ago
omghorussaveusall

Could? Sure. Would? Probably not. Most billionaires don't have billions in liquid capital and it would be a giant pain in the ass to cash purchase a company with a $27B market cap and just disappear it. There also aren't that many billionaires who have a big enough net worth to even lose $20B+ and those who can wouldn't buy it just to kill it without squeezing billions out of it first.

1 day ago
mightocondreas

Why would they though. It's like turning off the news.

They want you here.

1 day ago
Appropriate_Head_873

Wishful thinking we can only pray

1 day ago
ArmwrestlingGoomba

That would be a heartless thing to do, how will the mods feel special in their lives without reddit.

23 hours ago
Playful-Mastodon9251

Yes, I'm sure there would be lawsuits, but you are allowed to destroy things you own.

19 hours ago
EyeNoMoarThanU

idk this was my dream to buy an old employer and shut it down, fuck that place lol

1 day ago
LG_SmartTV

Hope so

1 day ago
Betrayed_Poet

I don't see why they couldn't, but I also don't see what would stop someone from creating a new one.

1 day ago
TheAlpineKlopp

They could. But whoever owns Reddit may not be willing to sell and probably doesn't need the money either.

1 day ago
Spiritual_Lemonade

I don't know the exact specifics of Redbox DVD rentals but that's what it seems like happened.

1 day ago
libra00

Depends on whether it's publicly traded or not. If it is there are certain duties and obligations you will be expected to fulfill. If not, smoke 'em if ya got 'em.

1 day ago
Scav-STALKER

Yes, why couldn’t they? It would be stupid but again, why wouldn’t they be able to?

1 day ago
dokidokichab

Yes but then I will start a company called Eddit

1 day ago
stacksmasher

Yes. 100%

1 day ago
Gally1322

It would be a wonderful thing if reddit got twittered......

1 day ago
Unknown_User_66

Yes, that's what they did to Candid!!! 💀💀💀

1 day ago
ConsciousSoul_

We should launch a public fund campaign for this.

1 day ago
joepierson123

Yes

1 day ago
Ivy1974

Once it is yours IMHO you could do whatever you want. But if you are going to buy it doesn’t make sense to shut it down. But what happened to X makes sense.

1 day ago
andoozy

Nice try Ken Griffen

1 day ago
NeighborhoodDude84

Why spend that money and shut it down? More like have people you've vetting to be mods of the major subreddits to steer the discourse.

1 day ago
DryFoundation2323

Sure, but why?

1 day ago
Wolvercote

Don't give us hope.

1 day ago
Significant_Tie_3994

Bain Capital specializes in just that

1 day ago
Lowmen_yellow_coats

Inshallah 

1 day ago
AlgaeDonut

That's what vulture funds are for, just with more steps.

1 day ago
1peatfor7

Yes you could, why do you think larger companies buy smaller companies (competition) and shut it down. Or merge it with their own products. It's not an overnight thing but usually takes a few years. I used to work for a Fortune 500 software company that did that throughout most of its existence. It's now owned by a different Fortune 500. Intel, Google, Microsoft, Oracle, Apple, Facebook, etc do this all the time.

1 day ago
allmimsyburogrove

Owner could have every sub conform to the r/conservative level. Lifetime bans for any comment deemed "liberal"

1 day ago
alphaphiz

Sure, don't why they would but its possible.

1 day ago
NaNaNaPandaMan

So Reddit is publicly traded which means that while someone could own the majority of shares they still can't just willy nilly make decisions.

Any decision that they make must be in the best interest of the investors. So if closing it down is a bad decision it could be blocked by courts.

1 day ago
Ryuu-Tenno

potentially, yes, but, there's a catch

if the company's public it'll be damn near impossible to do such a thing, so, they'd need to buy up as many shares as possible, probably have a few otehrs join them for greater control, make the company private again, and then they could shut it down

that said there are of course other ways of doing so, by basically hiring idiots and passing them off as great workers and let them make the fuck ups in teh company that would then cause it to collapse after a while, but neither are rather quick

alternatively, they could take the company up to congress (at least in the states, no clue on Euro companies and others), and run it through the anti-trust stuff, and if they're given enough proof that the company in question has been implementing anti-trust policies, it could be broken down and sold and such, completely dismantling it as a functional company, but i wouldn't honestly know the effectiveness of that, simply cause more often, companies are attempting to avoid being broken up (AT&T, Microsoft, Facebook, Google, IBM, for some examples)

1 day ago
CntBlah

One can hope

1 day ago
someone_of_somewhere

Say it we me:

Money makes the world go around

1 day ago
Aniso3d

Yes, but usually they infiltrate the company, get their own board members in, make bad policy looting the company as it goes under, also all while short selling the stock. This way they make money shutting it down , instead of having to buy it outright 

1 day ago
Professional-Plum154

Yea, but why? You'd burn billions and somebody would just start a new similar app.

1 day ago
Few_Peak_9966

Yes and yes.

1 day ago
tunafun

Technically yes but realistically no. The billionaire would essentially have to buy the company with cash so it was held exclusively. Otherwise if you arrange for institutional backers or other financial investments to help purchase reddit, you have obligations to them.

1 day ago
MegaBusKillsPeople
I make good guesses.

As long as they bought out all the shareholders, yes.

1 day ago
modsaretoddlers

Dare to dream.

Yeah, hypothetically, that could happen but Reddit is like all the others and it's forgotten what made it big in the first place.

1 day ago
Duke_of_Armont

Ever Heard of MySpace ? 

1 day ago
otaku_nazi

Only if you have 100% of the shares.

1 day ago
SuperDuperSkateCrew

They would have to buy out all investors first, but theoretically yes someone rich enough could just buy it and shut it down immediately if they really wanted to.

1 day ago
Grand-Atmosphere-101

God I wish

1 day ago
bib92

Billionaire boight the logging company that was responsible for logging and deforestation of the amazon. He bought it, it wasnt cheap. He shut it down.

1 day ago
ThirdSunRising

Yes it’s legal. Let’s say a billionaire wanted to control what was being said on his favorite app, let’s call it BirdApp. He could buy BirdApp and then he’d be free to fire people, tweak the algorithm, change it to promote his own point of view or suppress those of others, rename it, whatever he wants. All perfectly legal.

He could shut it down entirely if he wanted. He owns it. What’s stopping him? Well, it’s usually more beneficial to the buyer to simply coopt the platform and use it, rather than shutting it down.

1 day ago
andymook

But that would never be allowed to happen, right?

/s

1 day ago
ThirdSunRising

Yes I'm sure such a thing would be impossible in real life because no rational user base would stand for it. But it's an interesting hypothetical.

1 day ago
ridefakie

Google search Boston consulting group. They do this everyday for profit. Greedy bastards.

1 day ago
Itonlymatters2us

Sure. But the banter is what keeps the fire burning, so they won’t.

1 day ago
joeljaeggli

Sure hope so.

1 day ago
phunky_1

Google does this all the time. But a company only to shut it down in a year or two.

1 day ago
Falcon3518

I heard Vegan Billionaires do this with cattle farms.

1 day ago
juneandcleo

Isn’t that what happened to gawker?

1 day ago
Shart127

Good timing. I believe the very last vestige of Gawker Media (Kotuko, spelling?) shut down just yesterday.

But yeah a-hole pice of s%* Peter Thiel bought it and immediately shut down Gawker and Deadspin. And sued all the writers with his billions of dollars. Great guy, that one.

1 day ago
HotAd6484

Kotaku is still posting today

23 hours ago
Shart127

I wonder if since it got sold it’ll keep going then. I do enjoy that site.

23 hours ago
HotAd6484

Sorry didn’t know they are saying Kotaku will shut down, bummer.

22 hours ago
Shart127

No worries at all. I just got this is an email from Defektor yesterday. Hard to tell if it’s gone completely or just gone from the Gawker site.

I miss the days of perusing those 7-8 different sites all clumped together.

22 hours ago
cake-day-on-feb-29

We can only hope so!

1 day ago
AssistantAcademic

In general, yes.

I'm not a business guy, but I believe publicly traded companies (like Reddit) I think would need an offer to buy presented to the board of directors and/or shareholders to decide if they like the offer.

What they do to it once they own it is up to them. Turn off the lights. Fire the employees. It's their asset to do with what they will.

1 day ago
meatball77

That's what happened to Gawker. It was bought out and shut down. Took a while for all it's arms to go down but it did.

1 day ago
xavierpanda6

Then again turn it on and surf. Who cares if its shutdown for a while

1 day ago
acorcuera

Throwing money away.

1 day ago
BlueRFR3100

In the United States (and I assume other countries) there are anti-trust laws that prohibit doing anything to try and create a monopoly or curtail competition.

For example, JetBlue and Spirit airlines were not allowed to merge after the FTC argued that doing so would create one company that could monopolize the discount airfare market.

1 day ago
ToThePillory

You are generally allowed to do that unless a court in your jurisdiction (or a jurisdiction you intend to sell in) rules it anti-competitive or something.

i.e. if Microsoft bought Apple just to close it down, or Apple bought Android just to close it down, some courts are going to see that as monopolistic and anti-competitive, and the purchase might be blocked.

For crap like Reddit, I doubt any court is going to have a problem.

1 day ago
Ok-Impress-2222

Disney did that very thing with Blue Sky Studios. 😒

1 day ago
redbaron78

Anyone with, say, $35 billion in cash or investors could do it. Reddit has a market cap of $27 billion, and a 30% premium might be enough to get the board to go for it. But why would they? That would be just throwing away $35 billion.

1 day ago
IgyYut

Sure, idk but the first thing they should do is go to r/spiders and shut that shit down, the most aggressive community on the site. My bad guys I don’t find spiders to be all that cute. Take my head off.

23 hours ago
A-Seacow

It's funded by China, so yeah, probably

23 hours ago
[deleted]

Yes

23 hours ago
Dragonktcd

I’d say it’s theoretically possible

23 hours ago
Porcupineemu

If you managed to buy enough stock to take it over and then managed to take it private yeah. If it’s still public then you have a fiduciary duty to the other shareholders not to do something like that.

22 hours ago
Brehth

We can only hope

22 hours ago
just-here-for-food

This actually happens all the time. Companies buy out competitors. Mine the assets. Then shut it down. 

22 hours ago
sdakiretes

Imagine logging in and seeing a goodbye message from a billionaire 😭😂

22 hours ago
Nightcoffee_365

Yes.

22 hours ago
PokeyDiesFirst

For a publicly traded company, it's not that simple.

HR issues aside regarding firing what are probably thousands of people and violating the WARN Act, you also have a board that has to agree. If you want to get around those disagreements, you can simply buy those people out, but some of them may not agree no matter how much money you throw at them. You can also force a buyout, but some of that is dependent on the operating agreement and the laws of the state the business is registered in.

Then, there's the matter of buying out any agreements and contracts the company has with other entities. Most contracts made for advertising, like in Reddit's case, have buyout clauses with a specific number in mind in order to terminate the agreement. That way, Coca-Cola or whoever it is gets their money back in a pro-rated sense, but it could be more depending on the contract.

Then there are the debts. If the company borrowed $110M, they have to settle that. Bankruptcy is a way to avoid this, but if you want a clean break and to move toward closure as quickly as possible, you'd just pay it off and move on.

I don't see any of this happening in less than 60-90 days, assuming there are no roadblocks or legal challenges.

21 hours ago
jerwong

Yes. This happens all the time. 

21 hours ago
Local_Cantaloupe_378

Yes

21 hours ago
Successful_Cat_4860

Of course. But it would be an incredibly expensive flex, and would accomplish literally nothing. The same users would simply flock to an alternate platform.

21 hours ago
anomalousone96

And lose their streak, I don't think so

19 hours ago
CrapLikeThat

For sure. But why would you shut it down, when you could just give it a new paint job and tune up and use it to your liking?

18 hours ago
Jonnyc915

And have no where to watch you all cry about how they shouldn’t exist? Never gonna happen.

18 hours ago
TheBitchenRav

Reddit is trading at about $145.96 per share. It is worth about $28 billion. That is enough money to end homelessness in the U.S. for at least a year, with funding to house over 650,000 people and provide supportive services.

18 hours ago
JuliaX1984

This is literally what private equity companies do. An individual could do the same.

17 hours ago
CardiologistHead150

Yes but only Governments do such things.

16 hours ago
T1Earn

Why not?

16 hours ago
MadRockthethird

But do they know about secret Reddit?

16 hours ago
1108susiep

In theory, yes, a billionaire could buy Reddit and just pull the plug. The thing is, when you buy a company, especially a private one, you pretty much own it. So if it’s not publicly traded or bound by weird shareholder agreements, you can technically do whatever you want. If the company is public, it gets more complicated. You’d have to buy up a majority of the shares, which takes time and money. And even then, there are rules and watchdogs to prevent sketchy stuff, especially if it would hurt employees, investors, or the market in general. So you could still shut it down, but you'd probably face a storm of lawsuits and public outrage.

16 hours ago
healthyhoohaa

Isn’t that what private equity does?

14 hours ago
CareTypical6979

yes, because reddit is a private company, and is a private business, no matter how influential it is.

Unless out of public interest the government takes it over, or the court has mandate that out of public interest it must remain operational?

Then it has the law to enforce the operation.

14 hours ago
Agentcoyote

Yes, but might get sued by advertisers or other company’s with existing contracts that end in the future. But since you would have enough money to buy it outright maybe you won’t care about that either. What’s another billions in burned money, who cares

9 hours ago
destroytheman

"Your comment has been removed for not agreeing with the mods".

9 hours ago
Hottie8Cupcake

Theoretically possible but practically insane. The backlash alone would be legendary we're talking about the platform that brought down hedge funds and made GameStop go to the moon.

8 hours ago
rayfin

Yes. This is why everyone should be using Nostr. It's uncensorable and unkillable. You can't shut it down or stop it.

7 hours ago
CanYouPleasePlease

Yes

5 hours ago
admiralty20

Face it. In most countries billionaires can generally do what they want.

5 hours ago
JavaRuby2000

Yes Cisco did exactly that when they bought the Flip Ultra and then just shut it down as they thought Camera Phones would replace their business. They kind of did for a while but, now we have GoPros and other action cameras.

5 hours ago
Downtown_Number_2306

Maybe. But there’s also a lot of bylaws to follow. And think of it like this. Every CEO has to speak to the board of directors. Also, any major and very high multimillionaire/multibillionaire companies will have lots and lots of lawyers in their pocket so it’ll be very hard to do something like that to a known company nationally and internationally. Also, there’s a thing called a contract.

4 hours ago
NoContext3573

Yes

2 hours ago
LowUsual9

I used to enjoy Reddit far more before every product or company sub became paid shills for their products and services. I won’t even get into the hyper partisan nature found in most of the platform’s big subs that have become a toxic minefield of downvotes for divergent thought.

1 hour ago
Outrageous-Estimate9

Of course they could

Now there are rules regarding things like competition they can run afoul of (eg your billionaire owned a competing platform and are trying to kill reddit to drive us over there)

1 hour ago
FeistyRevenue2172

Yes, that is literally how some businesses make money.

They create a shell company and take out a loan. They buy smaller company with loan. The small company “sells” all its assets to parent company and “buys” advisors from the parent company. After they gut the smaller company, they merge the shell company and the smaller company, they have it declare bankruptcy (and defaulting on the loan), and the parents make millions.

1 day ago
kacheow

Would be amazing

1 day ago