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Funny relation between zoro and sanji

Funny relation between zoro and sanji

Sanjis mother is named sora - sky, Zoros mother is named Terra = Earth. Both died of illness.

-I think the naming sense might hint to luffys mother's name if she ever becomes important

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East_Sign61
Pirate

Dragon needs to get his ass up from that desk and give us some lore

1 day ago
Frenchconnections

Indeed. We need to know how he met Crocodile. 

1 day ago
Urukira

But

https://preview.redd.it/fjz9qn4ebrbf1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a43a2c61359f614e6bec207ca63ea4c77155b85d

1 day ago
GrayNish

Ok, real question, if someone become a man with ivankov fruit. Rub one out, then turn to woman and out those in. What happened?

1 day ago
Urukira

Its not that deep bro. just meme.

but i guess everything has change except their mind. the real question is, what happened to pregnant woman's baby when the woman turn into a man

1 day ago
archaeas

This is how rogue kept ace in utero for 20 months maybe

1 day ago
Jail_Chris_Brown
Pirate King Buggy

She was able to handle Roger's CoC, she was just built different.

21 hours ago
Dangerous-Quail-4479

Just watch Predestination.

22 hours ago
Urukira

Haha

The man The woman The villain The terrorist

all is one guy. you mean dragon xxx dragon woman version? 🤣 that sso...

22 hours ago
Gaelic_Cheese

I imagine it would be like having a child with your identical twin sister.

21 hours ago
retrobua

You can't have an identical twin sister as a man, because identical twins are clones of each other and can't be of different sexes.

11 hours ago
InTheStuff

clone

23 hours ago
Nakatsukasa

Super self-cest baby

14 hours ago
Dazzling-Physics-489

what the fuck man?

16 hours ago
Sea_Connection6193

Then Luffy would have the Down Down No Mi.

9 hours ago
FreeMasonKnight

Oh we know. 👀

1 day ago
RubyWubs

Dragon: "..." "...!!"

Oda:Perfect summary of your origin Dragon, thank you

1 day ago
siraramis

You mean a… dragon lore?

1 day ago
Quibbrel
Void Month Survivor

"I miss my wife Tails Iva. I miss her a lot."

1 day ago
McKnackus

We definitely need a Dragon flashback mini-arc, hopefully with Luffy mom lore.

1 day ago
TheDELFON
Explorer

...I better not leave this desk. If I do I'm FINISHED

1 day ago
levthelurker

And Jimbei is the First Son of the Sea

1 day ago
Rikyone08

Luffy is sun god so they are 4 elements

1 day ago
ButtSuck9000
Void Month Survivor

Son of the sea, Son of the sky, Sob of the earth, and the SON(Sun) god, they ain't in bros league, do you see Big Mom grouped with the Sweet Commanders, or Kaido grouped with King, Queen, and Jack?

Also I know this kinda reads as aggressive but I ain't mean it like that, I mean it in a nature documentary on at 2 am way.

1 day ago
rienceislier34

Nami means waves

22 hours ago
Robofish13

SOB of the earth. lol as a Sanji fan, I approve this typo.

12 hours ago
suryky

Son of a ...

15 hours ago
melvinsylar7

Terra (earth). Sora (wind/air). Imu (umi/sea). ███████.
Long ago, the elemental gods lived together in harmony. Then, everything changed when the Imu attacked. Only the Joy Boy, reincarnation of Sun God Nika, could stop them, but when the world needed him most, he vanished. A hundred years passed and the Son of Terra (Zoro) and the Son of Sora (Sanji) discovered the new Joy Boy; son of ███████ named Luffy. And although his haki skills are great, he has a lot to learn before he's ready to save anyone. But I believe Luffy can save the world!

1 day ago
eveningdragon
Cat Burglar Nami

If they fuse together do they become the Avatar or Captain Planet?

17 hours ago
Mr_Mammoth-man

Pluton, Uranus, and Poseidon?

1 day ago
DriedSquidd

Luffy has the three modern weapons to destroy the three ancient weapons. (Sorry, Shirahoshi)

22 hours ago
Beloberto

That only exists in the English version. In Japanese his epithet has nothing to do with being a “son”

20 hours ago
Likes-Your-Username

That's an english only name, "Knight of the Sea" is his original name... The wiki explains this

"His epithet, Kaikyō, would normally translate into "Strait" or "Channel". However since the kanji for it is written as (海侠) and not (海峡), the kyō part (侠) of it comes from (任侠), an honorific used when addressing a high ranking yakuza member, thus making his epithet a Japanese pun. Because this honorific is used for addressing high ranking yakuza members, it does not have a literal English translation. The closest translations used of the epithet that can be interpreted into English are made up based on the pun's meaning. These include "Yakuza of the Sea" and "Knight of the Sea" among others. These however are not literal translations, but titles made to convey the idea behind the original Japanese term used. In the Viz Manga and FUNimation adaptations, his epithet is translated as "First Son of the Sea"."

13 hours ago
Restless_Fenrir

Maybe his mom's name was Ocean? That would give Earth in latin, Sky in Japanese, and Ocean in English.

1 day ago
Secret-Put-4525

Being called son of the sea is enough.

1 day ago
L8dTigress

I think you mean, Umi which means Sea in Japanese.

1 day ago
Tetrenomicon

Umi = Imu = luffy mama confirmed

1 day ago
DriedSquidd

Imu = Umi reversed. Mom = Mom reversed. Imu = Mom.

22 hours ago
Meet_Foot

When was Tera mentioned?

1 day ago
OwnRecommendation493
Super Spot-Billed Duck Troops

Ods drew Zoro's family tree in the SBS for Vol.105 

1 day ago
Meet_Foot

Thanks!

1 day ago
yRaven1

https://preview.redd.it/6ue8xpqcbqbf1.png?width=559&format=png&auto=webp&s=97b1c2cec2683550855427e8f0f5cce4335d0ac5

Zoro boy is the last living direct descendant of the god of the sword

1 day ago
Meet_Foot

Thanks!

1 day ago
leolegendario
Pirate Hunter Zoro

Kuina's father, Koushiro is still alive.

1 day ago
yRaven1

He's not a direct descendant, Kozaburo and Yasuie are from different branches, the only direct descendants left were Ushimaru and Zoro grandmother, his sister Furiko. As Ushimaru didn't had children the only left is Zoro.

Just sad that all this didn't got explained on the anime, i mean i understand not being on the manga, but i'm sure they could cut that 10min sumo hand slap on the anime to get space.

1 day ago
sondiame

Luffy mom will be named aurora. Latin for dawn

1 day ago
Icefisher10

Aurora is a good one ngl…

I’m still partial to “Celestia” so that Luffy’s parents together make

CELESTIA(L) DRAGON

1 day ago
WickedHopeful

She had the Will of the L

1 day ago
Icefisher10

She… Loved, Labored, then Left.

Makes sense

1 day ago
kb9316

Live, Laugh, Leave

1 day ago
availableusernamepls

Basically what Roger did.

1 day ago
JohnnyHendo

She must be Yasopp's sister

1 day ago
yung-clumsy

A nice theory but Luffy’s mom is named Crocodile

1 day ago
Popopirat66

Yep, Crocodile Aurora. It was his family name all along.

23 hours ago
Sotarnicus

Croco D. Isle Aurora

13 hours ago
imyourrwife

could be

1 day ago
Little-Foundation454

Or maybe venti, if dragon has wind related powers he’d marry someone named wind

15 hours ago
Urban_Raptor

She could be Sea or Water but in a different language than Japanese or Latin then.

1 day ago
tothemoon4stonks

Umi would be the name for sea.

1 day ago
ProactiveInsomniac

Imu backwards

1 day ago
ammarbadhrul

Imu is luffy’s mother confirmed

1 day ago
ProactiveInsomniac

Since the “king of the world” reveal, always assumed imu’s body to be Luffy’s mother but with the opi opi no mi mind swap. What better personal justification for Dragon to oppose the WG than to lose his wife and have her body made a puppet to a devil.

1 day ago
Sotarnicus

This is a great theory however crocodile was never mind swapped just gender changed with ivankov

13 hours ago
nick2473got

That's not how Japanese works. Imu is written イム where イ = I and ム = mu. So backwards in Japanese it would be ムイ(Mui). Not Umi.

The backwards version of Umi would be Miu.

12 hours ago
ProactiveInsomniac

But it is how romanji works.

11 hours ago
Urban_Raptor

Marina from Latin would be better. But since we already got Japanese (Sora) and Latin (Terra), I'd expect something else.

1 day ago
elmasbostero123

In spanish we got "mar" (sea) or agua (water)

1 day ago
magpye1983

Maria?

1 day ago
Foresterer

Mer is French for sea. Could totally see that one

1 day ago
WooWhosWoo

The plot thickens

1 day ago
OatesZ2004
Pirate

Monkey D. Luffy Top 3 Commanders:

Roronoa Zoro - Son of the Earth (Terra)

Vinsmoke Sanji - Son of the Sky (Sora)

Jimbei - First Son of the Sea

1 day ago
RodNun

And Nami is wind

10 hours ago
HowyNova

Ocean in Japanese is Umi, backwards is Imu. So it's pretty much confirmed that Crocodile is Luffy's mom.

1 day ago
Captain_CrocoMom

I've been saying it for years.

20 hours ago
nick2473got

Sadly it's wrong because that's not how Japanese works. Imu is written イム where イ = I and ム = mu. So backwards in Japanese it would be ムイ(Mui). Not Umi.

The backwards version of Umi would be Miu.

12 hours ago
nick2473got

That's not how Japanese works. Imu is written イム where イ = I and ム = mu. So backwards in Japanese it would be ムイ(Mui). Not Umi.

The backwards version of Umi would be Miu.

12 hours ago
HowyNova

Yea ik. The post was mainly a joke because I knew at some point someone would make a serious theory on it.

11 hours ago
Rahvana13

Umi means sea in Japanese, and mother in arabic 🤣

1 day ago
nick2473got

Extremely different pronunciations though.

And "Ummi" is probably a better romanization of the Arabic word for "my mother" due to the shaddah. Although romanization of Arabic is a complete mess with little to no consistency anyway.

12 hours ago
huggelhupf

I genuinely think the whole Tera=Earth thing is a misconception based on the translation.

Here are my reasons:

  1. If Oda were aiming for a theme here, why use the literal word for sky in Japanese and a miswritten Latin word for earth? "Earth" in Latin is "terra" ( with 2 r), not tera. While Tera could be a version of the word that sounds more like a name in Japanese, I don't think he'd do that, if he was going for the sky-earth thing for Zoro and Sanji. Plus, while Sanji has some( althouth very little) sky-themed stuff like Skywalk, Zoro didn't really have an earth theme so far

  2. I don't speak Japanese, so I'm not sure if "Tera" as the western alphabet version of the kanji looking similar to "terra" is not just a coincidence, because according to the one piece fandom wiki, the name follows the naming theme for Zoro's relatives to have something to do with gambling.

Here's the passage I refer to from Tera's page:

"Tera (寺) means "temple" in Japanese. Her name may be derived from terasen (寺銭), literally "temple money", a fee charged by a gambling house. This follows the gambling-themed names of Zoro's relatives."

If her name in kanji fits the gambling theme of Zoro's other relatives, that's imo far more likely than the earth thing.

1 day ago
Jasonn444
World Economy News Paper

Yeah, this is very much just grasping at straws to draw a stupid forced comparison.

23 hours ago
yasuke1

In Kingdom Hearts, they spell “Terra” (meaning earth in Latin) as “Tera (テラ)”. It’s the same spelling as Zoro’s mom’s name.

The caveat is that the katakana could just as easily be romanized as Tela, Tera, or something else. But, Terra is 100% not off the table

1 day ago
iamChickeNugget
Lurker

Words can have multiple meanings.

1 day ago
Oreo-and-Fly
Explorer

If spelt the same way ye.

Red and read have 1 letter missing you gonna use the same argument?

1 day ago
GrayNish

When the language that was translated to has have drastically different system, yes

1 day ago
Crazyhands96
The Revolutionary Army

“Tera” as in the Japanese word for Temple is not the same as “Terra” the Latin word for earth. There is not deeper elemental connection between Zoro and Sanji’s moms.

1 day ago
MasterDaddy64

Aqua is Luffy’s mom confirmed?!

https://preview.redd.it/24fddt9wkqbf1.jpeg?width=352&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ac30c2e766382d9d475254048cf76b2acc42da8a

1 day ago
AppleMelon95

They do have similar levels of intellect

20 hours ago
MMachine17

Close enough, welcome back Aang and Toph!

1 day ago
Knirb_
Pirate

But that’s not Terra, Sora in Japanese means sky but Zoro’s mom’s name in Japanese means temple not earth or anything like that

This is just fandom headcanon stuff

1 day ago
Icefisher10

There’s an interesting literary phenomenon called “double meaning” that may surprise you.

1 day ago
Knirb_
Pirate

And what might surprise you is what some refer to as a “reach” when a claim is made and it doesn’t have proper reasoning

The way “Sora” literally means sky, is the way “Tera” literally means temple.

1 day ago
Icefisher10

Fair point, but I’d argue that the part that reaches isn’t whether it could mean “Earth” in addition to meaning temple, but instead—the notion that it has any foreshadowing or narrative significance.

1 day ago
Knirb_
Pirate

They’re one in the same. This misnomer exists because people want to make a pattern where there is none.

1 day ago
Icefisher10

Those darn pattern recognition skills we evolved getting in the way. ;)

1 day ago
ZaraZero09

Imagine if Luffy's mother is Umi = Sea, and dragon going full traitor was because Umi is Imu.

1 day ago
AmbitiousAd8978

Probably something with liberation or freedom.

1 day ago
Mummiskogen

"mothers suffering from unnamed illness" is such a common trope in mangas/anime, it's borderline comedic

1 day ago
LoneStoneMaalik

All I see is KH names. 🤣🤣

1 day ago
Illustrious-Day8506

Luffy's mother will probably be named Amaterasu or something related to the sun

1 day ago
BuioSaint

Based on the trend I'm noticing, will Luffy's mom be named Kairi or Aqua?

1 day ago
MrKigami

Jarvis, I'm running low on karma, repost the theory about Zoro and Sanji's moms names

1 day ago
JoeJ92

Luffy's mum may be called Umi then, meaning Sea but obviously backwards for Imu

22 hours ago
ChaosDY
Pirate

ok, im not one for theories but why have i not noticed that about Imu's name until now?

17 hours ago
clairj

Soooo im not caught up with op since wano and wooahh, zoro mom was revealed???

18 hours ago
XavDaMan

Just her name, I believe

18 hours ago
ChronicKush69
The Revolutionary Army

Luffy’s mother = Crocodile

13 hours ago
Likes-Your-Username

Tera in this context doesn't mean the earth though...

It's a gambling reference, his family are named after gambling references

13 hours ago
Furrulo87_8

Potential name of luffys mother could be umi or another sea related word

Edit: ... Wait a minute... Umi (sea) ... Imu (umi backwards) hmmmmmmm.... Hmmm?!?!?!

11 hours ago
omgitsjohnholst

So like… Sun? Taiyou..? Or maybe like… Katie? (Taiyou kei)

Potentially Asahi, Yuuhi?

Or maybe her name could mean Moon, Tsuki, since Luffy is the sun?

11 hours ago
Cygnus776

Monkey D. Umi

10 hours ago
RodNun

Jimbei is water and Nami is wind

10 hours ago
Berfo115

UMI (SEA) = IMU = LUFFY’S MOTHER 😮

1 day ago
L8dTigress

In a naming sense, Luffy's mother's name would be Umi.

1 day ago
Berfo115

Umi...Imu?!?!

https://preview.redd.it/dsxzyp5j2wbf1.png?width=258&format=png&auto=webp&s=091b081718a0666365d8f1a6f59b74bd8bddb620

11 hours ago
i_eat_ass_all_day

Mom said it's my turn to post this!

Good lord just fucking look to see if this has been posted before.

1 day ago
Secret-Put-4525

People need reposts. Most new people aren't scrolling old posts on reddit.

1 day ago
Killjoy3879

tbh this is my first time seeing it. I thought it was just fan canon for a second.

1 day ago
LordGZeus31

Maybe her name could be Sol as in the Spanish word for Sun as she gave birth to the one that would eventually light up the world ….. I wish I could still smoke weed this would make make alotta sense

1 day ago
eliavmoran

Luffys mother name is "kuki" (air) confirmed

1 day ago
cesar848

And jimbe is the first son of the sea

Earth sky and sea

Take that

1 day ago
IllFennel3524

Whose name will be mizu?

20 hours ago
Oxelscry

Her name is Tera which means temple.

20 hours ago
Impressive-Skirt-416

Luffy's mom name is Mizu.

19 hours ago
L-DFile

Aurora D. Tritoma would be the full name of Luffy's mother.

https://preview.redd.it/om4g7769utbf1.png?width=345&format=png&auto=webp&s=8e3bcada00a28b28972fe9158ea4902275ea6d87

19 hours ago
ChaosDY
Pirate

no it isnt. oda said as much when he confirmed that luffy's mom is still alive in the sbs

17 hours ago
0riginal_tay

What?

11 hours ago
ZorroStylex3
Pirate

Sun God Nika = Fire

First son of the Sea = Water

18 hours ago
chopanus

Is not sora also the superhero of the marines?

16 hours ago
Lessiale

And Oda’s same face syndrome is hitting again as well lol

16 hours ago
Luffy_Is_A_Plant

So luffy’s mother related to earth and sky….mmm… Maybe sand storm? 🤣

15 hours ago
Bitter-Chocolate-786

It's not funny, and it doesn't hint at luffy's mother either.

Zoro is the son of the Earth, Sanji the son of the sky, Jinbe son of the sea and Luffy the sun god.

One Piece fans as always lacking reading comprehension.

1 day ago