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Why does luffy in snakeman punch with his fingers not his knuckle
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It’s inspired by a martial arts style.
Yup. Each time he’s fought an opponent he’s basically learned a new kind. Drunken fist is what he learned from kaido for instance
I believe this form was Bruce Lee’s style
He learned mildly racist boxing to fight Foxy
Lol yes, and zoro took that as the blueprint for his style
The power of the afro cannot be denied. Nothing but respect was meant in making use of that power.
i always think of that crazy rock lee feat when he was drunk and beating the HELL outta kimimaro (and destoryed a WHOLE RESTURANT.).
Imagine if he just pulled that while fighting madara, crap would've been crazy if combined with the gate of death
Bro I wish it was the same for guy lol guy just pulls out the sake and says “oh that wasn’t enough?” After madara survives the first one lol
great scene ; but he most certainly did not beat the hell out of Kimimaro. In fact he barely touched him. Just rewatched it a couple weeks ago.
OH shoot, my bad, it's been like 9 years since I last watched it. apologize for speading misinformation!
Was it? I don’t remember JKD using this form of fist. Iirc Bak Mei does tho
You could be right, I saw a video on it once that broke down each martial arts style and couldn’t remember which was which except the obvious drunken fist lol
And looks like a snake...
That figure is actually very sick
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I hope it gets well
idk if it's american, it probably doesn't have insurance.
it has a decent water supply
I would actually cop that figurine but bet it costs an arm and a leg
200€
What is that in freedom bucks?
About the same. I think its almost 1:1
what about [[kromer]]?
1997
It’s pretty easy to look up
Looks more like a snake when you punch like that
What I was thinking of lmao
"Kiwami means Extreme."
That's rad
Exactly what I was thinking when I saw that. Might be showing our age here.
More aerodynamic
Prolly cuz a regular punch would slow velocity and snake man is about speed
That's one part, the other part is that it narrows the point of impact. With a "normal" fist, he hits the opponent with a lot more area - the entire front of the fist, not just the knuckles. But if you hit the same power on just a single small point, the kinetic energy is all focused on that one point and does a lot more damage. Distributing the energy over a large area means each point of that area gets only a small bit of energy. It's the same trick how some people can lie down on a bed of nails - their body weight is evenly distributed between all those nails. But let them try to lay on one single nail, and it'll pierce them, no matter what they do.
Just like a snake strike, Luffy's Snakeman needs speed and precision to inflict maximum damage when it hits. It's a cool detail.
The reason we don't do this irl is because it also pushes that force into the smaller area that you hit with. So to prevent damage, you'll usually punch less hard, and the force you can use without breaking it if you trained it is still much less than a regular punch.
I barely got what you were saying but I agree SUUUUUUPPPEEEEERRR!!! cool
it makes sense, but if you start diving deeper into physics, its WAY easier to break your fingers with that hand style than a fist.
Absolutely. But Luffy has Haki and rubber fingers, so he doesn't have to worry about breaking anything.
I honestly had never noticed this snakeman detail until now, but Oda clearly put some thought into it
Animal Kung fu Snake style. The strike is to imitate a snakes bite.
For those who saw One Punch Man, this reminds me of Silver Bang and Garou's fighting style.
well water stream rock smashing fist is more open hand. It is similar though
It's a leopard fist, which is used in a few different martial arts, and is geared towards striking softer targets, like ribs, throat, and inner arms.
I remember being taught it back when I used to do martial arts, and I remember being hyped af when I saw snakeman doing it.
It looks cooler
Decreases area of contact to increase pressure, to increase damage.
Wow, that's a good quality figure. Probably one of the best I've seen
It's a real punching style:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopard_Blow
I think some UFC fighters use leopard fist for body blows during grapples and jabs to the neck. It will basically crush your windpipe.
its only viable against soft targets. you punch anything hard and your fingers are breaking instantly.
Speed is weight acceleration is power that's pin point damage with faster than light power as Luffy's attacks have infinite acceleration aka Immeasurable speeds
It looks cooler
It looks cool
I miss that form, propably we never going to see it again or only shortly for warmup like against Kizaru
Aerodynamics
Lore reason probably the extreme focus on speed forces him to use more aerodynamic strikes
Real reason it looks cool and snakey
its a filipino martial arts that you can hear everywhere in the streets.
This figure looks so clean it will probably cost a kidney
Less air resistance
Luffy's rubber, he doesn't have to worry about his fingers breaking.
That is a legitimate punch in real life, the panther fist, it is generally used for striking called soft sensitive places(throat, stomach targeting organs, eyes). Not only does it hurt alot its size and shape can help it slip in tight areas. Main downside you have to lock your fingers in place because you can mess your hand up if it lands wrong, thankfully Luffy has armorment haki and doesn't have to worry about obliterating his fingers.
oh... someone already answered the question
They are knuckles; just not his third (fist) knuckles.
In the Chinese 5 animal traditions (think King Fu Panda), this is indicative of the Leopard style (think movie 1's first villain, who was a fallen disciple of the character Sifu).
By using the 2nd knuckles, you can more precisely hit smaller, but more vulnerable/ vital targets like those on the neck.
There may or may not be some more precise connection to it being associated with snake-like hits in Japanese systems, but I don't know.
Wiki page for gen info.: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopard_kung_fu
You can also find a lot of pics on it, including minor variations using the English (Leopard First) or Chinese (豹拳; Bào Quán)
Aside: [bao chwen] would be a decent English approximation on pronunciation for those who don't know Chinese pinyin. In pinyin, 'Q' is most like 'Ch'.
It keeps the hands in more aerodynamic friendly position adding to the speed of snakeman, added benefit.
His hand resembles a cobra's head
Cuz it looks more like a snake... Obviously
Wym he always had his fingers like that, even anime I'm sure
It looks more like a flat fist style you would see in taekwondo, but I’m not 100%. The knuckles are still the impact point just not in a clenched fist
More snake like = more power
The attack lands faster
Snek
Its less surface area with the same force making a bigger owie
Which is also why a punch hurts more than a slap
is more aerodynamic that way
Are those not his knuckles?
Those are his knuckles, just not his first joint knuckle. You can see that that the last digit of his fingers are still tucked down and under.
Its based on a hiraken punch. Its best used on targets with soft tissue, like katakuri's mochi
If you deliver the same amount of force in a smaller surface area, you apply greater pressure in that area.
This is why just pushing against someone won't hurt them, but pushing against them while pointing a knife at them results in a stab wound.
Some martial art styles take that same principle and apply it in a less extreme way to try to make their strikes deal more damage in a smaller area (as opposed to an entire fist), so they train by strengthening their finger bones to be able to handle carrying that force without injury (something knuckles and regular fists are normally better at handling).
Luffy's essentially doing the same, but without that last part since covering his hand in Haki + being rubber means he doesn't really have to worry about bone fractures as much.
He's being aerodynamic.
He's not actually punching that way, but as you see it, his fist is moving the most efficient way for speed
It looks more like a snake
Cus it’s areodynamic for that form of speed and observation distortion
To make it look like a snake. If you play shadow hand, that hand's shadow will look like a snake. Plus, since it is flatter than normal fist, it is more aerodynamic when it moves faster than eyes can see.
Piercing damage instead of blunt damage
Gomu Gomu no Hydra, (stronger version of black mamba, enhanced with conqueror haki) uses knuckle.
Because the smaller surface area from the finger exerts more pressure rather than using knuckle - Pascal's principle
Longer reach. Less air resistance.
It’s not his fingers it’s the second knuckle instead of the 3rd,
Probably from Sanosuke's punch (from Samurai X)
That’s called a “Tiger Punch”.
Used to penetrate soft spots for deep damage. Mainly used on the throat and diaphragm.
It could be that when he punches his fist goes into a more accurate shape and when like this it’s just more aerodynamic
Aerodynamics.
Aerodynamics ofcourse and the haki makes his fingers solid
You punch faster with an open hand. Clenching a fist right before you strike.
Some guess form me:
- His hand shape when doing the knuckle attack will fly slower than finger attack, which is arrow shape.
- Small hit area and can change the direction easier. Luffy need the attack to go fast, hit the weak point only, not need big impact form the punch-knuckle attack.
- Hit deeper than normal, eaier to pass the strong defend enemy. It work like a nail, if the contact surfer is too big, it not gonna go too deep but small one make it goes deeper and deal more damage.
- Have a snake shape, better for looking, lol.
Going for the throat punch.
to get those extra inches
Stream line makes his arm move faster in the air
Looks really good.
cuz hes not cp9 bro
cuz its cool bro. isn't that the point
how many fights has snakeman one? I feel like his fat form wins more
Snake style. My question, though, is why does he talk to his hands. He screams "Get him python!!" When fighting Katakuri and Doffy. I also don't get how his attacks get faster when changing direction.
Sir, it's an anime
This is called hiraken in karate
I’d assume it makes his punch faster because the air is moving above and below the hand instead of adding resistance by pushing against the fist if u get what I’m saying
I always took it as it being more aerodynamic and part of the reason why he’s faster in that form
He makes it hurt for himself if he doesn't use his Haki perfectly. If it's strong enough it doesn't matter if the punch was thrown wrong it will just be to tough anyway. In a way it's his punching a ship garp-like training to get stronger each time he fights especially if the enemy is a stronger Haki user than him. Pain is Luffys trigger to grow stronger
Oda would absolutely say something like "Because it hits sooner"
For style points. Duh?!
because it looks cool
just think of it like Shigan
It extends his reach very slightly but this increases the speed at which the tips of the knuckles accelerate because he moves his arm by expanding it so the fingers probably extend at least four gomu-gomus more than his reach would have expanded with just the knuckles meaning that the punch moves that much faster. Each strike does less damage but he can deal more strikes in the same amount of time.
Also it looks like a snake sssssssss
Cause power of imagination. If it looks like a snake, it'll move like a snake
Put your hand exactly like Luffy and look at it from the side. You'll see that it resembles a snake ready to strike.
You can actually punch like that irl too. Just riskier cause phalanges are weaker than the bones in your hand so it could injure easier
Unless you had it enveloped in haki probably
My dad taught it to me. Good for a quick throat jab
Your dad taught you haki?
Your parents didn't teach you how to hit a logia?
My dad thought me how to hide his presence.
His presence or yours?
Ah, the bleach way, concealing your spiritual energy 🤔
Ah, the Hunter X Hunter way, hiding your nen and hiding in a video game 🤔
You mean hiding your aura 🤓☝️
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My dad became a pirate and i have never seen him
Underrated comment hahahaha
Parents set him up for failure with that one, bro aint gonna stand a chance in the redline
No, they told me to get an admiral to do the dirty work and take my frustration out on a slave like a civilized person.
Lol What I take it yours didnt ? Shoot
Shoooooooot
Did yours not?
Yeah his father taught him haki( which means a strong will) not armament hardening.
Definitely would stick to palm strikes since it's WAY more safe, but this stuff is really cool too!
BECOME THE SNAKE
i think having rubber bones would also help avoid injuries haha
It's your dad garp?
Also unless it's made of rubber.
Read that too quick and saw throat job.
yeah it makes the hand smaller so it easier fit in those weak points. also good against muscle if you get the right spot.
wouldn't recommend using those strikes against harder material like bone
Or if you are rubber
You can also actually jump from a flying plane without a parachute. But only once.
I think I see the logic for it. Less surface area for the impact so maybe better transference of force to the exact spot aimed for. Definitely seems like it’s only good for soft target strikes.
It can fit into smaller areas too. A whole fist might not reach the throat. Depends on neck length and clothes and angle and their ability to tuck a chin, but if you snake fist its definitely a smaller fist, so
Whoa, you’re right!
fuck
mind = blown
In my school days I used to call it the tigers paw and tell my friends how hard it strikes with my first finger joint without causing too much pain, but more than a sharp flick, just like how powerful tiger paws are.
My friend just made me flip my hand upward and said “yo this is not tiger paws this is beggars palm”
And I still think about it to this day. Probably the first roast I can remember.
Hey tbf, one of the most famous martial arts heroes was a beggar so… accurate??? Looool
THIS IS SUCH A NICEFACT
We love luffy but the real world impact of this kid is actually brutal/ ruthless