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This is just a lot of computer jargon that I don't understand
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He's saying a basic user facing part of Windows was done in a way that's really easy for the developer and doesn't run as fast.
"File on your system? You want me to search Bing? I'll search Bing."
“No i want the file! Here is the file name” “Okay looking up the file name on bing”
What do you mean by "Sleep", I'll just turn the monitor screen black.
wait, is that what it's doing?
It does a little more than that. Stops all the fans and goes into a lower power mode.
Not in Windows 11 it doesn't.
Would you like to finish setting up your computer?
Fucking TRIGGERED
No. FFS!! I've activated what I want and will not sign up or into X, Y or Z product or service. Now, kindly, FAAARK OOFFF and don't ever ask me again. Please and thankyou. Best wishes. Kind regards, you cunt.
Remember when popups were deemed as a mistake, even by their creator? Yeah, let's bake them into your operating system.
Buy Microsoft stock. It helps to ease the anger if the anger triggers the memory they doubled you money with this bullshit.
I feel so old any time I rant about this lol
and let's not forget
"all your files are exactly where you left them!"
bitch, i only rebooted! where else would they be!
Like a kid yelling "all the cookies are still in the jar!" unprompted when their mother gets home
considering my entire one drive wiped itself, where could they be indeed. i wasnt even aware the damn thing was saving everything to the cloud and NOT my hard drive.
Email. You need to enter you logging info again. Just check the code we sent into your email you can't log into without the code.
had my laptop force rebooted several times for this shit. while working. lost unsaved progress. All for a fucking advertisement of Microsoft products disguised as "setting up your device"
No i dont want to sign up for your windows 11 probing im fine with keeping my dignity
Update and shutdown.
Updates, reboots a few times then back to windows.
Yes, I would like to install Linux Mint, Thank you.
You have to make sure your USB devices arent keeping it awake.
powercfg /requests
My PC goes to sleep fine and the only thing remaining powered are the RAM sticks.
The fact that you need to manually do it is incredibly stupid. Annoying af.
Yeah, having had to sit and go through this shit, I am so pissed at Windows. Why isn't there a button for "just suppress anything you need to and only allow waking up by tapping the power button" or some shit.
It does for me.
My laptop (8th gen i5) could go a week between needing to charge it on Windows 10. After upgrading to 11: 6 hours, whether I'm using it during that time or not.
Yeah... Might be some hybrid pseudo sleep. Some of them keep thinking and talking over wifi, for example. Didn't happen on 10 on the exact same machine
Technically, it's called "modern standby." It's Microsoft's new attempt to make your laptop behave like a phone, after their last failed attempt to make your laptop behave like a phone.
That's the problem, it should work for everyone.
It sleeps until you slip your laptop into your bag to take home.
Then it fires back up, cranks the fans (no airflow in the bag), overheats and runs the battery down to zero.
(You can enable Hibernate mode which allows you to suspend it without it just turning back on again)
Yup, same. Works as intended.
I'm awake, wait why is it dark?? AAAAAAA!!! AAAAAAAAAAAA!!! AAAAAAAAAA!!!
SERIOUSLY. I always power down my laptop before bagging it to go somewhere, thanks to the couple of times I took it out, fans screaming, about to explode from heat, after I put it to “sleep.”
it does more than that but sometimes windows only gets to do the first task of turning off the monitor but fails to do the rest.
Ah, you want me to "Update and shut down". Cool, let me just update and then restart with the volume at 1000.
Update and Restart?
No, just Sleep. I’ll look at the update tomorrow and get back to you.
I think he meant “Update and Restart”, so lets just go ahead and do that instead.
The fact that they add the update and restart button (when an update is ready) to where the sleep button is never fails to mildly infuriate me.
Yeah I gave up on all the shutdown methods, just choke the pc to death manually. It’s so rare that windows actually does what it says it will do it’s not worth the risk of running a pc all day. It’s one click versus 5 seconds of leaning on the power button.
Starting in, I think, win7, shut down doesn't mean shut down but sleep. They decided that people would be more annoyed by the increase in start times so they just made it unintuitive for everyone
tbf this is when hdd was used as an os drive
"Update and shut down ? Okay ! I'll update and restart"
Best is, it'll show the file with the first three letters typed in, but when you type the whole name in, it can't match it
Yeah, that's some fine insanity. Or alternating between showing and not showing the result with each new letter typed
i hate this behavior. it feels so premature. Knowing they already had a working menu and search in win 7, in 2009, is unbelievable.
Windows 7 search was so good
"No, search in Documents only!" "Understood, no results"
Oh documents! Got it. Uploading everything to the cloud. Oh you are out of storage btw.
It can not even locate "This PC" still to this day.
Windows helps you out by removing the comma
"No search in documents only" coming right up
This worked so well in Windows 10 and then they fucked it all up.
Nah, I'm on W10 and I recognize that behaviour to a T.
Fok
I do hope whoever designed that is dead now and that their passing was slow and painful
Don't forget lonely, I hope it was lonely.
If ill will can kill a man I've done some damage to Microsoft executives in my weaker moments.
Do I look like I know what a JPEG is? I just want a picture of a gawd-dang hot dog!
You’re not making Windows better, you’re just making computing worse!
It is possible to regedit that out and I recommend doing so if you’re comfortable with it
But requiring users to edit the registry to make an OS usable is part of the problem, isn’t it?
just curious what reg key is that?
Computer\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Explorer > new DWORD (32-bit) > DisableSearchBoxSuggestions and set equal to 1
DEFINITELY DEFINITELY DEFINITELY verify that with at least one other source like a yt video before toying around in the registry!!!!
Thank You, i think i've already set the windows 10 equivalent of that reg key via a group policy.
Jokes aside, try Everything search. I have it pinned to taskbar right next to file explorer and its so fast and so much better than native search. Dumb that it has to be a third party software but it does the job.
Using 'Everything' shows everything wrong with Microsoft.
A free(?) third party finds everything nearly instantly.
I can run a Windows Explorer search on a few folders with a few hundred files, and can manually scroll and find the file I want faster than the built in search tool, but Everything can search my entire hard-drive and find all instances of that file even faster. How can Microsoft search suck so hard given it is there file system?
With Linux distributions if there is a better open source editor, search tool etc, they will adopt it, but Microsoft have a 'not invented here' approach
They will just buyout Everything to try and do it better and make it impossible to use. They have done this with many third party softwares by killing competition. These corporations are only after THEIR profits.
Poor skype.
You really want Everything Alpha. It does content indexing, virtual server indexing, and dark mode!
Remember when on windows, you could type in the file name and it highlighted it in the top of the search?
Yeah fuck having a navigable UI, make it pop up random items, your exact typed out search is at the bottom.
Youre looking for oblivion? Let me show you every data file in the oblivion folder instead of the folder or the exe called oblivion.
I don't know that it's relevant, but Richard Stallman is the most rabid Free Software advocate of them all, and Windows is the exact opposite of everything he stands for. He's probably shown here reacting to someone referring to Linux without calling it GNU/Linux.
Yup, he's like the Jesus of Open Source software, one could say he's almost militant about it. He created the whole "copyleft" idea and was hugely active in pushing for free and open software, that we all benefit from to this day! And maybe more importantly the creator of Emacs! (Though that may be a bit subjective...)
He’s also basically insane
He sorta has to be I guess, I don't see anyone (at the time) doing what he did without having a couple of loose screws.
As it happens, I can support certain software and hardware ideas without being a creep about women and arguing online about lowering the age of consent. Stallman is glorified way too much.
As it happens, I can support certain software and hardware ideas without being a creep about women and arguing online about lowering the age of consent.
I saw this and was like "this is probably one of those things where people on the internet make shit up or blow it out of proportion" and wow, what a rollercoaster his wikipedia was for me.
There's this whole bit where he's arguing that one of Epstein's MIT clients really didn't do any assault because the girl would be presenting herself as willing, which is like, I guess I get your logic but kind of gross and weird to feel like this is what your time should be spent doing, right? But we at least get to this part:
Stallman remained critical of Epstein and his role, saying "We know that Giuffre was being coerced into sex–by Epstein. She was being harmed
So alright, he gets it, sorta. Still a weird move. But holy shit then there's this:
Stallman received criticism for previous writings advocating for the legalization of child pornography and pedophilia. In September 2006, Stallman had written, "I am skeptical of the claim that voluntarily [sic] pedophilia harms children..."
Nope. Nope nope nope. No coming back from that.
On September 14, 2019, Stallman acknowledged that since the time of his past writings, he had learned that there were problems with underage sex, writing on his blog: "Through personal conversations in recent years, I've learned to understand how sex with a child can harm per psychologically. This changed my mind about the matter: I think adults should not do that."
Glad you came around, but "pedophilia is fine" is one of those things that you really can never unsay.
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Yikes
The guy already said he created Emacs. Redundant to call him insane.
As long as we’re talking about Richard Stallman, he’d appreciate you calling it free software, not open source 😉
"I use Linux as my operating system," I state proudly to the unkempt, bearded man. He swivels around in his desk chair with a devilish gleam in his eyes, ready to mansplain with extreme precision. "Actually", he says with a grin, "Linux is just the kernel. You use GNU+Linux!' I don't miss a beat and reply with a smirk, "I use Alpine, a distro that doesn't include the GNU Coreutils, or any other GNU code. It's Linux, but it's not GNU+Linux."
The smile quickly drops from the man's face. His body begins convulsing and he foams at the mouth and drops to the floor with a sickly thud. As he writhes around he screams "I-IT WAS COMPILED WITH GCC! THAT MEANS IT'S STILL GNU!" Coolly, I reply "If windows were compiled with GCC, would that make it GNU?" I interrupt his response with "-and work is being made on the kernel to make it more compiler-agnostic. Even if you were correct, you won't be for long."
With a sickly wheeze, the last of the man's life is ejected from his body. He lies on the floor, cold and limp. I've womansplained him to death.
He looks so upset here because the toejam he'd curated for weeks and was about to eat, fell on the dirty floor.
If you think I'm being ridiculous I suggest you watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I25UeVXrEHQ&t=105s - I've skipped to the juicy part for you, but feel free to watch the whole thing.
And also, the person in the image is Richard M. Stallman, the founder of GNU, GPL and the FSF.
was done in a way that's really easy for the developer
This part makes me want to say bad things about react. Some of which it probably doesn't deserve.
No, it deserves all of them. When create-react-app installs 2000 packages, it deserves anything you can throw at it
create-react-app is deprecated. At this point they recommend either using a fullstack framework if you need the hand holding or to just RTFM for your bundler of choice on how to set up react for it.
Windows implemented the start menu in a manner that is roughly the programming equivalent of going out to buy a coffee every morning instead of just making the same coffee at home for way less effort, cost, and energy.
To extend this, you already had the coffee machine at home (the old start menu) and it was working well.
Now, you've taken a proverbial hammer to it and every time you want coffee you need to jump into your massive oversized Ford truck and drive 10 minutes to your local starbucks.
In reverse.
With the parking brake on.
While only looking at your rear camera, that’s cracked, and covered in vasoline
USA USA USA
WTF IS A KILOMETER!? 🦅
It's a gauge that measures how many pedestrians you ran over today, Kill-O-meter
Thats a question! I will auto turn on AI features and look it up through Copilot.
Sounds like a fantastic Tuesday night!
Where you order a grande latte, with the milk on the side, then drive home, throw out the milk and take two sips of the coffee and pour the rest down the drain.
Brilliant. Exactly as the American side of me wants; while the electrical, computer & programming parts of me weep..
what do you mean working well? It wasn't scraping nearly enough marketable data. Major design flaw.
Thank God! They finally decided to do things the American way!
I don't understand. You guys are describing my mornings and saying that I'm doing something wrong?!
What you're referring to as Windows is actually GNU/Windows. Windows is just the kernel. What you’re truly using is a combination of Microsoft’s proprietary interfaces atop decades of computing labor, locked away from scrutiny. But freedom is not a default…it’s a fight.
My goodness, this comment takes me back to reading Slashdot in college in 2000.
slashdot...that is a name i have not heard in a long time...a long time...
It's an older website, sir, but it checks out.
I get that meme
Jokes on You I have gnu tools (native) installed on windows so I do use GNU/Windows.
Richard Stallman has a suite of solutions for this. Just remember that, despite the similarities, GNU's Not Unix
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Oh interesting, so what does GNU stand for?
The GNU in "the GNU in GNU's Not Unix stands for 'GNU's Not Unix'" stands for "GNU's Not Unix".
Wouldn't the sentence 'I want to put a hyphen between the words Fish and And and And and Chips in my Fish-And-Chips sign' have been clearer if quotation marks had been placed before Fish, and between Fish and and, and and and And, and And and and, and and and And, and And and and, and and and Chips, as well as after Chips?
This is an excellent analogy
Once they started wasting time/design/ram on translucent headers; it was over.
Vista era was awkward as hell.
I want Aero back though. Much better than the toyish style of XP and the boring flatness of everything after 7
As someone who used Vista as my daily driver for YEARS, 7 was just Vista but better, 8 was a mistake, 9 was never released because they really screwed up the kernel, and 10 was what 8 should've been with the added caveat of dropping feature compatibility and user friendliness for minimalism despite the bloat.
IIRC they dropped 9 because it would break a lot of old software that depended on the "os name" that would assume it was one of the windows 90's versions (windows 9, windows 95, windows 98).
Windows Nine, the real secret software deep cut. Written out numbers OR ELSE
I prefer the German version: Windows? Nein!
One of Microsoft's advantages, for a long time, was that they cared about backwards compatibility (at least, more than Apple). You could reliably use an older program with a newer OS. When it came time for Windows 9, some old code buried somewhere broke because it thought the system was Windows 95 or 98. Easier to just skip to 10 than root out the code.
Microsoft's commitment to backwards compatibility is one thing that's worth applauding. I was able to natively run Castle of the Winds, a mediocre dungeon crawler written in 16-bit code for Windows 3.11, all the way up through Windows XP. It was only rendered incompatible when switching to 64-bit Win 7 where Microsoft finally dropped support for 16-bit applications. I had backwards compatibility on that little game for over sixteen years without any updates or compatibility modes required.
To be fair, Castle of the Winds was fucking DOPE.
Getting those cursed items off was a STRUGGLE. Getting loot from Gelatinous Globs was like Christmas. And once you learned how to Detect Item you felt like a god. Fond memories. ⚔️🏰🛡️🧌
I have a computer that I use for old school CRT gaming. For a long time I was running Windows 10 32-bit, which still supported those old 16-bit programs.
Eventually, I just ran into too many driver and compatibility issues, but it was cool for a while to run Pajama Sam and Grim Fandango straight off the disc.
I upgraded from 10 to 11 over the weekend
I hate it, but it had to be done
10 is eol and no more free updates after October
I did the same recently. My CPU now runs/spikes way hotter, and my framerate in games is noticeably lower.
I'm installing Mint Linux as soon as I can find the motivation to set it up(and find my usb drive)
I've got mine dual booted but some things just dont work well in Linux. The slicer for my belt printer is one of them (options are very limited for belt printer slicers)
I mainly just use mine for gaming but was planning on dualbooting cus I know Linux still has issues with some games.
Probably gonna just do it with 10 instead of 11 though.
Steam games all run well in mint thanks to Proton
Every attempt of mine to run games without Proton have been awful. Diablo IV, WoW, anything not steam native has issues.
Proton freaking rocks though
Update to 11 before dual booting. Upgrading windows while grub loader is active was a whole ordeal
There are a couple of 3rd party groups that will be supplying updates if you want them.
You could always go the LTSC route
That solves a few problems, but issues will arise for a home use case. Things like Nvidia drivers and the underlying system need to be updated for newer games and applications to run properly.
I was already running into issues with some games (particularly EAC protected games were bugging hard)
True. I’m just gonna duke it out with 10 until shit isn’t supported anymore tbh
As a kid I loved the toyish design of XP
XP is so fucking nostalgic to me for this reason
As a teen, I loved the custom themes that came added in all the custom pirate WinXP installation disks :) Never really used the default blue-green theme
There was also stardock kinda customization tools. It was all goofy.
Apple just brought Aero back! https://www.theverge.com/news/682636/apple-liquid-glass-design-theme-wwdc-2025
They already killed it again in the next beta.
Yes... ish. Aero never had any problems with contrast (due to white glow under letters on semi-transparent elements), and had non-flat icons. That's not it. It's just flat design again, but put on some fancy liquid glass elements. But it's better than what we had for the past 12 years.
Disliking the last windows OS that had near full style customization for its style is wild.
Win2k or death
Translucent objects are easy to do, they only really require the ability to do color math. More impressive transparency was done in the 90s on the Amiga for very little CPU time.
Aero in Vista was doing more than that, it was doing blurring and adding glow, maybe even adding a lens effect.
Don't remember Amiga having any good transparency effects to be honest. It was impressive for its time but I don't think transparency was one of its strengths. The low resolution helped though, much less pixels to process.
I remember when the windows were all gray and boxy 👵
On top of the comments here, the dude in the picture is Richard Stallman, among other things he is an advocate of software which anyone can use and modify.
This should be higher up
He just needs to do it as… y'know I don't know what family guy character would explain this
Brian. To look intelligent, Brian would advocate for open-source software... from his MacBook.
To be fair he is clearly labelled.
He also came out for wanting to lower the age of consent, defended Epstein, has numerous postings about the positives of relationships with children, wanted child porn laws changed, and was ultimately removed from MIT and other places due to his creepy beliefs, and had been a ghost for the past 6 or so years but we don't talk about that for some reason....
Stallman had written, "I am skeptical of the claim that voluntarily pedophilia harms children. The arguments that it causes harm seem to be based on cases which aren't voluntary, which are then stretched by parents who are horrified by the idea that their little baby is maturing."
Wonderful guy....
Not that I was a GNU true believer prior to Stallman's downfall, but I really lost faith in GNU after his reinstatement to the board. Bringing him back feels like an admission that the organization/ideology won't survive without him, because why else would you have that baggage on the board.
Oh shit! I used to teach Linux and would include some trivia and Linux history here and there. I missed this. Fuck that guy, that's fucked up.
I mean he’s important to the history of it but yeah just leave it at that imo. People should know of his contributions but he’s not really someone to be idolized on a social level outside of software development.
Of MIT professor Marvin Minsky, who was named by an Epstein accuser as assaulting her, he stated
the most plausible scenario is that she presented herself to him as entirely willing. Assuming she was being coerced by Epstein, he would have had every reason to conceal that from most of his associates
Vice lied and said he claimed she was entirely willing.
He never defended Epstein.
“I am skeptical of the claim that voluntarily pedophilia harms children”.
-Stallman
So yeah he can fuck on off regardless.
A very partial reconstruction of a position (about age of consent) he does not defend anymore. The fact about Epstein is quite different from what you claim. Look at facts more in details, please.
An expanded account of his previously held views:
Stallman received criticism for previous writings advocating for the legalization of child pornography and pedophilia. In September 2006, Stallman had written, "I am skeptical of the claim that voluntarily [sic] pedophilia harms children..."
Maybe we can find open source heroes who don't also think child porn should be legal? I mean Linus Torvalds is right there.
Also picked some sort of skin or nail or detritus from his foot and ate it in front of an audience with absolutely zero shame.
One of those other things is eating toe cheese
For the people who don't know who stallman is, this is the only thing he's ever done:
React Native is a framework for building cross-platform apps, which comes at the cost of performance and apps looking less like they belong in their respective environment. Which is completely fucking stupid for an integral part of an operating system, where there is zero need for cross-platform, and performance and integration are essential
and apps looking less like they belong in their respective environment
So this part is actually mainly skill issue. React native's core components map directly to native UI components. For example a Text component will use UITextView on IOS, on android it will use TextView, and on windows it will use TextBlock.
So if the app doesn't look like it belongs, the dev either uses highly custom components which don't map well to native UI components, or they just suck at design.
And you can see that windows start menu does look very similar to the newest UIs in windows like the settings menu.
lol this is still gibberish to non tech people. framework? cross-platform (like xbox and ps?)? envirnonment? Like when it's cold? Operating system why would you operate on a system operate on a human being, my god your a surgeon and we've been sitting here for like 20 mins why you humm take me out to the ball the game
If people actually thought like you pretended to in this comment (and they do) the world would probably suck on so many levels in every place you look (it does)
I genuinely can't tell if this is rage bait or if there are people who don't even know what an operating system is in 2025
Let me tell you about my boomer aunt, and my innocent niece.
My aunt is nearly 70. My niece (my aunt's grandchild) is 4. One of them barely understands how to operate an electronic rice cooker, the other is too young to know anything more than a computer is a magic rock. Neither of them are particularly good at English, nor know a lick of French, and we all live in Canada.
And then the tech issue hit.
YouTube was taking up 92 out of 96 GB of storage on my aunt's 6 month old phone as well as all of the RAM and naturally running slower than the speed of government.
They spent 3 hours trying to figure out the answer to "what's your operating system" with what I could only assume was a tech support agent who was trapped in his own personal hell. This absolute angel of an agent spent 3 hours on the phone line with them (entirely on OS, and trying to find the settings button) until I arrived and they gave me the phone.
I could practically hear the relief of the tech support guy over the phone when they transferred the phone to me. We fixed it in 2 minutes and told YouTube to stop downloading videos. I apologized to the tech support guy for having to spend 3 hours in what was probably his personal hell.
It's easy to forget that the average person only knows the formulae for olivine and one or two feldspars
And quartz of course
I think most people know very little or nothing about operating systems or computers. People in my family are a bit of an anomaly because my dad is into computers, and so I ended up being super into computers, and then I shared it with my brother, and slowly even my mother and my grandmother are getting some of that knowledge.
But I know plenty of people who come from a household that never had any sort of connection to computers.
Actual React Native developer here - this entire thread is filled with misinformation and confidently incorrect people.
The meme itself is misinformation, the Windows Start menu is not built entirely in React Native, only the small Recommended section is, the rest is done natively with Windows APIs. There are valid criticisms of React Native, but its overhead and impact on the start menu is exaggerated. React Native is built for fast native performance, it isnt as fast as pure native, but it has advantages that make it preferable over native platform code.
React Native is also not a web-specific technology, people saying it embeds a web browser into the start menu have no clue what it actually does under the hood. How React Native works is that you write UI code in Javascript which orchestrates the UI in native code, which on windows is some form of XAML.
The biggest improvement you could do for start menu performance is setting your registry value for BingSearchEnabled to false, as it removes the web search function which IMO is the most significant cause of slowdowns. Related thread
Good points and well written,
unfortunatly i am a year 1 CS student, and my only source of knowlege is memes, with 0 actual production experience. And i heard once that JS is slow.
And therefore this is also bad and there must be no valid reason they decided to do this. Have i told you yet how smart of a programmer i am? sometimes i even dont just copy-paste from chat-gpt.
When you see something like this, do what I do, try to recreate it. I opened my AMD performance monitor and watched my CPU utilization as I clicked the start menu. There was no spike at all, just hopped between 2 and 5 percent whether I was clicking the button or not.
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how?
Can’t believe I have to scroll this far to get here
It’s fine because my $375 basic task laptop has 24 gigs of ram for NO FKN REASON other than to support bloatware like this
What laptop is it
Link got automodded so this is the full name: ASUS Vivobook Laptop, 14" FHD Display, i3-1215U, 24GB RAM, 1TB SSD, Wi-Fi 6, HDMI, Webcam, Touchpad, Windows 11 Home, Blue
damn, shitty intel cpu
I was almost salivating at 24Gb RAM, why did they do it like that
no GPU either?
The i3 is more than solid for everyday stuff. You won’t be doing hard gaming but I don’t have problems with most pre-2018 games. The integrated graphics run my second monitor in 4k and it’s more than fine for watching YouTube videos in 1080 while grinding CG in OSRS
It's 375USD why are you expecting a dGPU 😭
Only man ever to complain about to much ram
It’s like all testosterone and no dick!
Oh, wait…
It’s just misleading, ya know? Cuz the rest of this hardware is not equipped for the things I would like to do w that much RAM
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its essentially like running a mini web browser that only loads one webpage, which is as silly and redundant as it sounds.
This is not how React Native works at all, you might be mistaking it for Electron/Tauri.
who know web development than other types of development
React Native only overlaps with React web for using JSX and JS state management. Everything else, the UI and such are handled on the native layer. People really have no clue how React Native works.
I assumed they all worked in similar ways, thanks for the correction
Holy shit, two whole paragraphs and you didn't even know what you were talking about.
Wait, you wrote that much based on nothing but vibes?
Start menu is not "literally" a react native application though?
The recommended section of the start menu is react native.
Wow TIL; I thought it was hyperbole and use of "literally" was incorrect.
And Roller Coaster Tycoon wasn't literally written top to bottom in Assembly
Oh Wait
(Edit: The base is C++, but some parts use React for what looks like formatting. Apparently the Windows Native version of React is a better version, not sure why you'd need something like a native version of react, that seems to defeat the point)
its not a "better" version, they may made some proprietary optimization, it just compiles into different "view"
C++ does this. React native on web compiles to web pages, like reddit, ,on ios apps have ios look and feel, and on windows on windows look and feel.
Still bonkers if they did that
This is Pawtucket Pat explaining the meme! The man pictured is Richard Stallman, a man on the extreme fringe of the free software movement and creator of GNU and many early utilities for Linux. Linux is a free and open source operating system.
Microsoft has had a long history of trying to discredit Stallman, the free software movement, open source, and Linux. Stallman has been memed as a high priest of the free software movement. He has said that keeping software closed source is literally immoral. And he has long been an outspoken and controversial opponent of Microsoft and other proprietary closed-source software companies.
React is a Javascript programming framework for building user interfaces in web browsers. Thanks to a rise in popularity of the NodeJs runtime, it has gained popularity in use in desktop applications.
The joke is that using React for the start button in Windows 11 would likely be a very odd technical use case and, while possible to implement, would probably be a very inefficient and inelegant want to do it. An old school coder like Richard Stallman, who is familiar with writing bespoke and highly optimized code in the earliest programming languages like Assembly and C would be very depressed and disappointed if such a think was done in the latest version of the biggest desktop operating system.
This has been the reclusive Pawtucket Pat with the deep lore about the decades long struggle for Microsoft to leverage their massive market share to silence dissent, such as from the controversial Richard Stallman.
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux!
Dudes saying it’s bad design and Windows should be ashamed of it
if windows could feel shame, it would've jumped into a fire pit a long time ago
Hi.
You know when you're on your phone and you open the app tray? The thing that lists all your apps in order?
Imagine that instead of being a built-in function of Android or iOS, the app tray itself is also an app, and launching App Tray made your phone slow down and lag immediately. Because part of App Tray is a third party app, like those bloat games that come force installed and can't be removed.
And also that you lose more speed and power incrementally every time you launched App Tray unless you constantly force stop and clear the cache.
That's not exactly what Windows 11 does, but it's very similar.
I think while a lot of people have an idea of how it work, they kinda fail to explain the whole reason.
React is largely used in web, so the idea of using react native in Window 11 menu, make some developers believe they throw a fucking web browser that eat your ram into a menu button. And that is why window 11 suck.
Like window 11 fucking sucks, but not because of react native. React native is like diet coke. Nobody love it, but sometimes it is fucking hot and you just want something sweet and cheap. And diet coke ain't that bad.
And no, react native is not a web browser, it is a library that call some programs. That is all, they mistake it for the react dom.
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When we say “not everyone has the same knowledge as you” this is the kind of shit we’re talking about. This meme is gibberish to non-tech people, but we still get people reporting it for being Low Effort because they assume everyone knows all about their niche.