I know is not answer to topic but close, why not add man who by self-pleasure kills billions every year? Canibalsim also works.
And to add on top of this. There are many men who encourage (both parties agree) or coerce their partners to have abortions. Shouldn't they be included in that number?
If you are actually looking for a response to your straw-man: it is because there is a different between a zygote in a pregnant woman and sperm/unfertilized eggs.
Yeah but not much. Certainly the difference between a zygote and an newborn infant is greater by several orders of magnitude, no?
Depends on the criteria you use. Physically? Certainly. In terms of worth and natural human rights? Pro-lifers would say no, as all humans have inalienable rights.
All humans have inalienable rights, but at which point do the rights of one outweigh the rights of the other? If I am getting a life-saving organ donation from you (we'll say kidney since youve probably still got 2), and at the last minute you change your mind, have you violated my right to life? Should you be prosecuted?
The argument you make is one that you are allowed to have. I have a different argument, one that disagrees with pro-lifers; the potential life of the fetus does not outweigh the current life of the pregnant person.
And therefore the simplest and most straightforward way to legislate that is it becomes the personal choice of the parties involved and nobody else. Because it is not the government's job to make choices about your body for you. You dont have to donate the kidney, even though I will die. That is your choice, and it is the government's role to protect your right to make your own choices about your body.
"but at which point do the rights of one outweigh the rights of the other?"
Yes, that is the crux of the matter.
"I have a different argument, one that disagrees with pro-lifers; the potential life of the fetus does not outweigh the current life of the pregnant person."
This situation is rarely controversial. The problem becomes when the mother's current life is not endangered. Now you are measuring the life of the fetus against something less than the right to life of a person- for 50 years is was an inferred "right to privacy."
On the top is Shinji Ikari and his dad, and below... i think that's the lead girl from Read or Die, maybe?
Ah… pro lifers who kill people. So ironic, it kills me.
Wait. Hold up. There has ONLY been 1 billion people killed in wars in all of human history? That seems like a low amount for over the last 200,000 years. I know our population bombed during the agricultural revolution but seriously only one billion?
While idk if its accurate it's worth noting that the sheer scale of numbers like a billion is often difficult for us to grasp. It is entirely plausible that only one, maybe two billion humans have died to wars throughout recorded history.
It wasn't until WW1 when we industrialized killing that the numbers really started to skyrocket. It takes hundreds of hundreds of millions to reach a single billion after all.
Wars prior to the industrial revolution were fought between levied peasant armies numbering a few tens of thousands of men, equiped with longbows, horses and melee weapons. The citizens of each state were mostly subsistence farmers who were often indifferent to which feudal lord ruled over their land.
Wars after the industrial revolution are fought between professional armies numbering in the hundreds of thousands, equipped with automatic high-precision long-range weapons, tanks, bombers, missiles, drones, mines and worse. The citizens of each state are mostly urbanised relatively educated people who fiercy resist foreign occuptation.
Our ability to destroy has become unbelievably stronger, but our ability to protect and heal has only improved marginally. This is why wars nowadays are so much bloody and destructive than in the past.
No no, earth did not exist 200,000 years ago. God created earth just a little over 2000 years ago.
You're looking for the number ~6000 years if you're trying to make a biblical joke. 2000 years would be when Jesus died.
I think they were trying sarcasm & it didn’t land
Wrong. 6000 years.
A man killing 3 billion people in the past 2 days: (masturbation)
Dude.
Who are these people? That means YOU KNOW HOW TO FIGURE IT OUT.
Google it. Or Bing. Or Duck Duck Go if you’re snobby.
Oh Boy I cant wait to use this sub for its sole purpose. HOW DO YOU USE THIS SUB CORRECTLY. This is you
just saying someone could have saved a lot of lives aborting Attila the Hun or Adolf Hitler.
women dying in childbirth throughout history (giant looming in background)
How the fuck women are killing over a billion fetus in the entire world and how we know they??
Man an anti women meme with an evangellion reference. Dudes pillow wife must think he is such a patriot.
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I would like to guess but i no idea what it is refering to
I think whoever made this simply hasn’t met dedicated pro-lifers. Anytime those people are brought up to me, I show off my collection of their autographs and newspaper clippings.
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I literally never stop masturbating and collecting it in jars. I will raise an army. They will call me both Father and King Big Dawg.
whoooooosh
Peter , who are these people ?
3/10 Seinfeld impression. Would not pay to see again.
I never watched Seinfeld
I've never eaten squid, but I'm aware of its existence and if someone drew a picture of one I'm confident I could identify it.
I had idea that “who are these people ?” Was even a joke from Seinfeld ?
It's more from Seinfeld (the guy) rather than Seinfeld (the show). He'd tell a joke about someone doing something nonsensical and say "who aaaare these people?" A catchphrase, if you will.
Locking comments in 3-2-1...
You could've searched a single name up first and found out the joke immediately. This sub has seemed really political and really anti-religion lately
Well that sucks... I knew not paying attention during the bible classes at primary school would bite me in the ass someday
I’m more confused by their choice of anime reference images. On the top we have Gendo and shinji, Gendo likes to murder women and Shinji likes to rub one out over coma patients. I mean I guess they aren’t really stand up guys…
Then on the bottom there is Yoriko from You’re under arrest who erm I can’t remember her doing anything other than handing out parking tickets… I mean traffic wardens are evil, I guess it’s trying to say.
A false comparison of extreme, fringe people to a daily abomination.
ok boomer
Thanks for the sign that is the time to close the thread
I support those ppl
These people still didn't kill more than abortions, though?
god probably did tho
Who mentioned god? 😭
Fair enough
teenagers when they are home alone probably do have a higher scoreboard
Who said anything about sperm being humans?
Are you just throwing out lazy stereotypes of pro-life supporters to make me look like an idiot?
If so, that’s just immature and doesn’t help your side of the argument at all.
No im saying all teenagers are mass murders like that
have you ever seen Mao and a teenager in the same room ?
think about that
Google exists
Killing your unborn child is evil.
then teenagers are worse that Mao , Stalin and Hitler combined every sunday
Amazing people find that as a contentious point and that people are trying to compare wet dreams, jerking off and periods to it.
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