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Whelp. C# it is.
Except by OPs logic it's Danish.
Missed in this bill. Will do another bill next week. Thanks for the reminder
Bill got withdrawn. Sept 1 now.
Are you a time traveller?
Bill gates?
I just had a look, and yeah, C++, C# and PHP are all developed by Danes...
That is actually kind of nuts.
And Typescript aswell
Let's hope that Anders Hejlsberg didn't write it while back home in Denmark.
EDIT: Missed it
Modern C# > Java imo
http and www was invented by a Brit and his team in Switzerland.
10% Tariff on both X and Truth Social please.
HTML programmers are excused. They suffered so much in memes.
Use HTML to create all software and get benefits. No one knows about HTML more than me.
And Java people don't suffer enough?
It's already used in 8 billion devices. So they must be used to it by now..
Don't kink shame us.
Who suffered more? Java, JS or CSS guys?
Please tell me!
Good thing https is a thing /s
Democracy was invented in Europe too. Tariffs on democracy!
10% tariff on every python library you include.
import tariff
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Omg I fucking wish. Just last week I rejected a PR from our “architect” that included math, ostensibly to use pi for something, only to instead define a constant PI as 22/7 and cast it as a str, then eventually back to a Decimal, for which he also imported the whole decimal library.
That one took me a minute to figure out how to let him down gently.
My bash aliases had conda=mamba and pip=uv maybe I should add a rule to my linter that turns maths in numpy...
math is actually faster than numpy for non-array/non-matrix calculations because numpy is specifically optimized for array calculations, so there are situations where it makes sense to use math over numpy.
Oh, interesting. Yeah I very rarely work with exclusively scalars. Tbh most of the time I import torch :/
What was his reason for not using math.pi itself. And what are you using the pi value for (beside circle circumference and area)? I've never got a chance to use pi myself outside of college.
I’m also baffled as to why he didn’t just use math.pi cause he didn’t end up using the math library at all. I suspect he was Copilot to spit out some code without reading over it closely, since we’ve been warned we must use it for any conceivable purpose so we can leverage its value.
As for his use case, it was some quick & dirty sanity checks on how much floor space would be covered by a certain number of WiFi routers. We have planning software specifically for that but he was trying to not get into the weeds.
USA bankrupts universe
USA is only going to bankrupt itself.
The collapse of Rome did not ruin civilization in India
While that's right. The late Bronze age collapse ruined many civilization since trade was ruined.
Egypt defeated the sea peoples and still declined sharply since there was nobody else left to trade with
0 * 0.1.
Crikey. How will I afford beer?
Now, do that to npm
Import TaxFraud
Yes, this exists.
Java was created at the sun microsystems campus in CA and C++ at the Bell Labs in NY. Actually NJ not NY.
"Invented outside USA" as OP stated isn't correct - but "invented by people born outside the USA" is.
Java was created by James Gosling (Canadan) working at Sun Microsystems (USA). C++ was created by Bjarne Stroustrup (Danish) working at Bell Labs (USA).
Yeah, that's not what the post says
Which is why I began with '"Invented outside USA" as OP stated isn't correct.'
Birthplace is completely irrelevant.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_Labs
C++ invented in Jersey, so close enough
Correct, I meant NJ.
Gottem
pretty sure java was made in California. Anyways, I've seen this meme format so many times it's really getting old.
Edited :
Java was invented by a Canadian.The language was created by James Gosling while he was working at Sun Microsystems in their California office
But James Gosling was and is a Canadian.
No, Menlo Park.
https://web.archive.org/web/20050420081440/http://java.sun.com/features/1998/05/birthday.html
Edit: Tarrifs don't apply to things built in the United States by immigrants.
So it's american invention
Are you an American? Would explain why this meme is getting old.
Yes, I am American. It's getting old because it's been on r/programmerhumor so many times to the point where, you know, it gets repetitive.
It is also stupid and wrong.
The inventors aren't Americans, but I believe all the languages came from institutions in the US.
You will use your state-approved rust compiler.
This doesn't match:
To demonstrate what they saw as a possible future in digital devices, the Green Team locked themselves away in an anonymous office on Sand Hill Road in Menlo Park, cut all regular communications with Sun, and worked around the clock for 18 months. In the summer of 1992, they emerged with a working demo, an interactive, handheld home-entertainment device controller with an animated touchscreen user interface.
[ https://web.archive.org/web/20050420081440/http://java.sun.com/features/1998/05/birthday.html ]
BTW, the linked article shows their first device, an IoT device (even the term wasn't invented yet):
It was a tablet computer with wireless internet access!
Around 20 years before the Apple iPad. Just saying, to once more demonstrate how "innovative" Apple products are. All Apple sells is just cheap rip-offs. It was like that since the company started (the "revolutionary" Macintosh GUI was stolen from, I think, Xerox).
Don’t get too excited, everything was actually invented at Xerox PARC
Absolutely everybody went to the same demo and stole the same ideas. Apple to Microsoft, from the mouse up.
And everyone has been pretty happy to talk about it
Ahem, the NLS team at Stanford Research Institute would like a word…
They don’t call it “The Mother of all Demos” for nothing!
That was the project where Doug invented the mouse, those crafty Xerox people copying all the good ideas
[edit] in case this is new to you, it was tongue in cheek, should really say that apart from Doug who continued on with his brilliant “human intellect augmentation” research, the lion’s share of the remainder of the NLS team went on to develop the Alto, including Bill Paxton (Ethernet, Bitmap Display, GUI, Laser Printers and later at Adobe, type 1 fonts and PostScript), Bill English (put a ball in the mouse, wrote alto office software, later implemented internationalisation at Sun), Bob Taylor (Alto and Arpanet), Jeff Rulifson (Alto and Smalltalk, Alan Kay was at the demo and has credited it as being an inspiration - couldn’t find the source, but remember him talking about it, maybe a computer history museum talk), Don Andrews and his team went onto develop much of what we understand as networking and collaboration (not directly associated with Xerox, but it was a small world at that point) - it’s astounding the shoulders upon which we stand!
[ps] Apple paid a fortune for the ideas in the Xerox Machine then sub licensed them to Microsoft (giving away a bit too many rights because they were keen for Microsoft to write software). The truth is an erstwhile later finance director at Xerox sold the shares for short term gain, they’d be able to buy elections now if they’d held onto them.
they’d be able to buy elections now
Best metaphor for "being filthy rich" I've read in a while. 🤣
Bill Paxton was soooo good in Independence Day too
That's well know.
My point was more that everything Apple does is just a cheap rip-off. They never invented anything. But still they manage to make their cult followers believe that Apple is an innovation driver.
Nobody ever called Apple cheap mate, and I’ve bought their stuff for years.
They aim to make a quality version that is easy and intuitive to use for the first time user.
If that’s not what you’re into, they don’t want to waste your time or money and don’t want you to buy their stuff.
C++ was made at Bell Labs no?
C++ was invented by Danish Bjarne Stroustrup while he was working at Bell Labs. He is a Danish computer scientist.
Edited to fix my mistake
Bell Labs in Denmark?
OP doesn't realize people can immigrate.
C# also was invented by Danish guy - Anders Hejlsberg. Also created TypeScript.
So not only Greenland can be subject to beef about.
Please wait for my bill next week. Thanks for the reminder.
No, it was developed by a Danish immigrant in New Jersey.
Does he have an American citizenship? Or is it a working visa?
Doesn't matter. It was made in America.
"Java" has changed its name to "Coffee" in an attempt to not getting deported
Because of new regulations, I have to redo my data architecture. Foreign keys are no longer allowed. It's all now One Big Beautiful Table.
Languages free and open source $0 10% of 0 is still 0
Sure, but a tariff would placed on the companies using the languages, not the scripts themselves.
Thank god SQL is safe
No one cares
Linux and Git too
The air we breath and the water we drink can come from outside the US. Tariffs soon.
Dont tell 'em about Linux
Wasn't Java created by Sun Microsystems in Palo Alto, California?
Did you just Google "Java inventor" and see James Gosling, the primary architect, was a "Canadian computer scientist"?
He's a Canadian immigrant, the intellectual property and development was for an American company lol.
C++ started out in Murray Hill, New Jersey...
So was wifi
C++ was developed at Bell labs and Java at Sun Microsystems.
Wasn’t C++ created at Bell Labs?
C++ was created for att bell labs a US company
Let’s go JavaScript baby
10% tariffs on the world wide web.... See how that works
C++ made in Bell Labs which is US if i am not wrong.
Swift is all American 👍
Designed in California? Manufactured in China no doubt
Vietnam to avoid tariffs
well they're free so 10% of that is 0
Remember folks that weapon of mass destruction called JavaScript invented in USA
Excel’s formula language was designed in USA, but made Turing complete by an Englishman and a Scot - what’s the deal with that, does the full tariff apply because of the foreign import, or is it incremental based on one’s usage of lambda calculus within excel…
I’d use Excel to work it out, but it might bankrupt me!
50% tarrif on Linux while you’re at it.
Damn FOSS taking our jerbs
Use COBOL
Wait they’re tariffing computer programs now? What?
There’s definitely a sql to this matter .
Throw HTML in there as well!
Dart FTW
Just wait until he discovers that open sauce does not come out of a bottle.
On servers running Linux additionally 15%
BTW some open source licenses have weird restrictions about "use for good, not evil" which are perfectly legal, if the US administration were to fall foul of such they would be liable for massive copyright infringement.
Technically c++ was invented in the us when bjarne worked at bell labs in New Jersey
Lua is from Brazil, Roblox in shambles.
no
don’t make me write perl
no
The vast majority doesn't live in the US, so whatever 🤷🏻♂️
Also what does a tariff on a company even mean? 😄 Genuinely something only he could come up with. It's just perfect Trumpian language.
(don't get your knickers in a twist though, I know perfectly well it's not real)
Well 10% of 0 is 0 so...
It would be perfectly in line with the administration to do this, taxing the US DoD and other federal Departments for using C++ and Java and starting an another infinite money glitch
English was invented outside the United States. Y'all going to shut up from tomorrow?
That would be so fucking epic
Don't give hope to my introverted ass.
Edit: wait a second, I'm not even American and English is not my language.
Oh fuck that'd be nice.
One can only wish.
"We SpEaK 'mUrIcAn HeRe!"
Just like when Microsoft "invented" C# after trying to make their own version of Java, we're going to invent a new language called "American."
Why would they tax English? They don't speak it.
Time to learn Micmac or Cherokee.
English was grandfathered in. It's basically legacy code.
US switches their official language to Cherokee
Natives would be celebrating hard if that were the case
No, you only have to start hablando español.
Nah but we will put a tax on it now.
Could you imagine! Our ability to engage in speech being tied to our wealth! We would never do such a crazy thing
glares at Mitch McConnell
Well that’s why in America they use american language
I see you've also fallen for the internet myth that Americans speak English.
So you can only use some indigenous languages or klingon from now on
Same goes for Melania.
it's time y'all learned the native tongues of your area
No, but there's a 10% tax on speech now.
Wait the British did not Steal it?
FFS, we borrowed parts from fully functional languages.
If we stole it, it'd be in a museum.
i mean...
the manuscript (or at least a large portion of it) for the Oxford English Dictionary is keep at Bodleian Library which is very much a museum in a sense of the word...
Eh, actually successive invaders made their language the language of the land or injected it into the existing native language (Anglo Saxons with old english, Normans with french influences)
The “fully functional languages” where those invaders came from underwent further functional development and underwent external influences just like ours.
They did. English is actually three languages in a trenchcoat.
None of which were stolen. It's natively Germanic with Norse and french being forced upon them
More like seven lmao
They did, but not from america
Yes. The English language - famously stolen by the English people.