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I love how everyones hyping up AI all the time, but the most recent time I tried to use it for any actual real-world software development, it suggested I just remove the password check on my website to allow OTP logins to work.
Youre always going to need engineers who can read what the AI says and think "uh no actually thats fucking dumb we are not going to do that", and I am deeply afraid for any company thats currently blindly copy-pasting LLM code and running it in prod.
Tbf, that would explain a lot of what's been going on at ASUS...
What happens at Asus aside from locking their phones bootloader permanently?
Their "AI powered security" of their routers can be used to gain control of those routers and use them as a bot net.
One of their automatic driver update tools only validates if a download URL contains the string "downloads.asus.com", which means downloads from "downloads.asus.com.malware.tv" and similar is considered valid.
Some of their software has hardcoded admin accounts.
There was a vulnaribity in their user account system, so attackers could get access to data like the addresses of people who used their RMA process.
And that is just the tip of the iceberg.
Gamer's Nexus just did a video about it, they have all the links in the video description.
They did what? D:
True. But my local Walmart used to need 16 cashier's during bust hours to handle demand, now they need 4. It would obviously be stupid to have self checkout without any oversight. Just like it would obviously be stupid to use AI in really any industry without any oversight. But there are plenty of industries where AI will be like self checkout.
They still need 16 but don’t want to pay for them, that’s why the service is shittier and the lines are often slower than before.
I never have lines at Walmart outside of holidays. I just walk up to an open self checkout and use it. Maybe people are just a bit slow where you live.
Ofc you still need people. But you need less of them 😏 and the more time passes the less is gonna be needed
Of course people need to be vetting what it outputs but it does often feel like people, especially on this website, bash AI without really using it correctly... It is a tool, use it right, not a brain replacement.
Certain groups of people (less so developers) do feel like it is a brain replacement already - hence the backlash
Not to mention the ethical concerns of training the model in the first place.
Now what does that make Po?
A junior dev clearly
The dev proving that AI does not beat actual programmers.
THE DRAGON WARRIOR!
procedural futa artist
😂 these ai faithfuls are incorrigible.
Doesn't matter how shitty the slop, they'll keep punting the tech.
They’re just waiting for that one breakthrough to validate their blind faith.
A 50-strong team of korean research will make a scientific breakthrough, and some dude with a 12000 loc one-pager will feel very validated by it.
Sunk cost fallacy and all that
It is a useful tool and it'll continue to get better, but the wild claim bullshit ceos make on it is a bit much.
There is something to be said about it doing boilerplate, running though simple scenarios to generate code, and basing new changes on things that already exist in the code base. I don't trust the output but it's a good start.
But give it something creative to do and I will spend more time fixing its idiocy than having done it myself from the start.
But whatever the boss/client says, goes, so if they want me to prompt engineering before actually engineering, they get what they bargained for.
Exactly. No matter how much execs want us to think their sentient, they’re not.
All a programming LLM does is generate an output (based on training data), run it/see if the code’s output satisfies constraints given by the prompter, then loops if it fails. It’s not thinking, just reckless trial and error until it passes.
It's all a fallacy. AI can't use deductive logic. That is what the scientific method is about. AI is built on the logic used to narrow down the available hypotheses that are most likely to be true.
Humans are very good at that. Magically good almost. Put a problem in front of them with 100 equally likely hypotheses and within a few cycles of deductive logic we can test the hypothesis that is true. We are being told to accept that AI will do better at that test than humans when it can't. We are better at inductive logic and we can then test those hypotheses with deductive logic.
The truth is that wealthy powerful people are a constant in our system, not a fluke, not necessarily raw talent. AI is as smart as them because it can use inductive logic like they do, except they don't know, or don't want to tell the other half of the story. That AI can do their job for them, but for the rest of us we are still going to do the same thing, work that order.
If they are convinced AI is as smart as them, then they are dumb and shouldn't be leading anything. Because they are just creating a tool that does THEIR job for THEM. If we can't get the results they are never going to believe that AI put them onto the wrong idea.
This does not help with the "all software engineers are furries" rumor.
Don't worry, by next week the AI will be teaching us Kung Fu... and rewriting our unit tests mid-fight..
Waiting for it
Was asked during a phone screen last week: “Do you have experience with implementing “vibe-coding” and best practices?”
I said I mean sure who hasn’t right,lol?
Oh wait you’re serious?
"Vibe-coding" and "best practices" are antonyms.
Yes agreed. That’s why I ran the opposite direction
Stop reposting this fucking meme
And then they kiss ❤️
AI is changing the world the same way Blockchain was, or machine learning before that, or big data before that.
They all have a place, a small little place, but are blown out of proportion by industry trumpets to make money off of it.
Big Data and ML are transformative. They quietly rewired everything from logistics to finance. You don’t notice them because they became infrastructure. Same with cloud computing.
AI (especially LLMs and multimodal systems) is different because it's not just an incremental backend upgrade, it directly interfaces with how humans produce value: writing, coding, designing, decision-making. That’s the core of knowledge work.
Of course there’s hype but this tech is actually changing workflows, industries, and creative output in real time. It’s not theoretical anymore.
OP on the defensive even before posting lol. Why bother posting if you're going to bitch about it
AI in chinese means love...
That's in Japanese, my boo.
Buddy I fucking hope I get laid off. Tired of this bullshit
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Oh, if only. So far, all the AI interactions resemble working with very enthusiastic but autistic and seriously mentally retarded kid in a fast food restaurant. He's OK with making unit tests and shit, but no sane person ever will let it work with production code or work unsupervised.
A lot of people have their head in the sand about this, and a lot of programming jobs will be gone in 10 years.
Meh, AI is an impressive tool, but you still need a dev to verify the app features
That doesn't matter. What matters is that a middle-manger thinks they'll save the company a quick buck — and if it brings the whole company down, that's gonna be a lot more jobs being destroyed, too.
Caffeine.ai
Sure buddy
AI can't even get a burger order right. It's never going to be able to meaningfully replace programmers.
You know, that "AI" in your meme lost in the end? ;-)
-- hacker flicks pinky
I hope you meant the non-mainstream use of the word hacker, if so then it's accurate af.
for the lucky 10,000: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker_culture
Good. Give us hope against Skynet in the future.
But what is Po to us?
The janitor who unplugs the server to wipe under the cable.
No, that means it can be plugged in.
we just need a really really bad solar flare from the sun to erase all data related to AI.
Or uhh we need a god to send a few cosmic rays to do a few very specific bit flips during a write operation to erase AI from all of humanity.
Anyways we need divine intervention for this shit.
An alternative is just nuke a few data centers storing data related to AI.
Whoa spoilers /s
Well, right now it also appears to be losing tbh~
According to this study devs felt 20% faster with AI, but they were actually 20% slower
It's a kinda small and very specific group of devs. Authors did the right thing with their summary of what their article means and what doesn't. We can't say such things in a general wide sense
Still, I like this study and want it with a wider group of people, including "juniors". Also I'd like to see stats "how soon those lines were changed"
I don't use AI like Claude or IDEs like Cursor for my job btw
Please mark this as a spoiler..
They are also the foe the software engineer has to deal with now. Comparison seems apt
And AI was right all the time