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Try building an .apk on Unity for the first time
One of the reasons I still appreciate mono builds for development, they take like 8x less times than IL2CPP
Totally can relate 🫨🫨
With internal video transcoding, it took like 9 hours...
Compiling for WebGL on Unity is worse imo. Desktop and Android builds don't use as much of my CPU as WebGL does. It sometimes takes 90% of my cpu to compile it for ages. And I have a Ryzen 7600x so it's not even that old
First time I used android studio, my laptop ran out of ram and it gave me a blue screen 💀 I ain't even kidding lol. My laptop lagged too 😭😭😭
Resharper + visual studio on a large project and watch that ram usage climb
Apparently that's just how resharper is on Visual Studio. Wondering how the fuck they managed that?
It's probably doing a lot of recursion. I wonder how they managed that?
It's probably doing a lot of recursion. I wonder how they managed that?
It's probably doing a lot of recursion. I wonder how they managed that?
It's probably doing a lot of recursion. I wonder how they managed that?
Given what it does, it probably compiles entire solution into AST, then builds dependency/relation graph over it (including external libraries) with metadata and then puts all of it into search tables. Essentially: with R# you pay with RAM usage for runtime performance of indexing, and since RAM usage is mostly irrelevant until you run out, it's good tradeoff.
What did the bluescreen say?
I don't remember, it shut down so fast but I think it's the standard blue screen message
hate to break it to you, but linux DRM just added a new BSOD screen for kernel parnics
I've met the blue screen twice. Big ass QR code that you have to go far away from your monitor to scan
unfortunately i have not. not a good enough kernel hacker to get panics. it looks pretty funny though.
Have you ever looked at the requirements for building the Android OS? I never realized my PC was this bad.
God damn! For those who don’t wanna look it up, 400GB storage, 64GB ram are the minimum. Compile time is 6hrs on a 6 core machine and 40 minutes on a 72 core machine (for full builds, not incremental)
Is this /s
No, thats the actual requirements
Chromium walks in
Yup that is about right. (I work with AOSP). We have 24 cores and full build takes about 4-5h. Won’t even compile with less than 64GB RAM. It fucking sucks lol
At least now im justified when i require a better pc
Tbf that's for people who work with AOSP which is not most of the engineers out there.
Visual studio loads relatively quickly for me? Maybe it’s because i’m at work and time seems to work differently there.
Performance in VS has improved a lot over the years, as long as you're not using resharper.
It loads in less than a minute on my laptop. Even faster on my PC
It loads in like, 2 seconds for me? Loading a project takes a bit longer, but a decently sized solution with about 20 projects is about 5 seconds. Now my work laptop, with the mandated AV that bogs the system down, that takes like 30 seconds
It’s pretty slow in general for me, but I am developing an enterprise application.
Visual studio more hungry than xcode? In which universe?
My favorite part about xcode is how I don't even use it but every time MacOS is updated, I have to install an Xcode CLI update for git to work.
XCode started tiny, just a better text editor. But XCode got now fatter than M$ Visual Studio? Wow!
Apple is really delivering. Not only the most bloated and buggy OS, now also the most bloated IDE? (As VS is even fatter than the IntelliJ monster.)
MacOS / iOS way less bloated and buggy than Windows/Linux/Android - Xcode does suck though
XCode is way heavier than Visual Studio
Have you youngsters ever tried to build a .swf file from Flex+Actionscript ? With Flex Studio (proprietary fork of Eclipse) ?
Yes. I even have the books and install cds still. And the memories, dear god.
But from today's standpoint Eclipse is really lean compared to the other IDEs. It starts even faster than VSC. (Not that I would recommend Eclipse, it's quite dated. But other IDEs got much more bloated.)
Wow the swf took me back, haven’t heard that in a long time.
Still looking back with fond memories to flash though
meanwhile neovim
That’s me running away from it
We code in notepad like real men
Only the first time?
Gradle build in the corner:
I am C# dev and recently did some work on our backend which is all Java on a Mac. Man compared to .nuget artifact repo we use, the .m2 artifactory or whatever you use takes AGES to fetch all the packages. First build takes no joke like 5 minutes.
I don't think we use the same Xcode and Visual studio...
Atom needs a JS node server in the background worth a few gigs — move to the right. Lightweight are notepad++ and terminal with compiler running. On Apple you can get the same lightweight Text-Wrangler/BB edit with terminal. Linux doesn't even need an OS GUI installed, text vim/nano and terminal compiler but switching between screens and copy paste is a bit tricky. If you go with linux os gui, Gedit (Gnome) or Kate(KDE) are nicely windowed and lightweight. There are also fancy IDEs on Linux.
Meanwhile my devcontainer:
Accurate.
unless you run your containers natively. then it isnt
pycharm after a few minutes for no discernible reason:
meanwhile neovim floating in the skies
Where on this scale do Jetbrains IDEs stand?
That’s actually a good questions, perhaps I need to try out Rider and see if it’s any better. But also I don’t know if I can stomach paying out of pocket for an IDE I almost exclusively use for work.
Yeah, suck that not all their IDEs have Community editions. I thankfully can use them for free because of being a student, but idk what I'll do once I leave school, I guess I'll just have to switch back to VS code
Honestly speaking, VSCode and Visual Studio are by no means bad so I think you’ll be fine.
I just looked at the JetBrains site and it looks like they offer a 40% discount to former student license holders so you have that option too.
Wish I could tell you if it’s worth it though, but frankly I haven’t felt the need to switch, which speaks to how fit for purpose Microsoft’s offerings are.
Have you tried running Xcode ?
I feel like XCode is way heavier than VSCode
Visual Studio used to be quite heavy comparing to a lot of software... Like 10+ years ago, if we comparing to other software from that time. But nowadays it's pretty snappy.
Once in a while my emulator will eat through my 32 gigs when i booted it up from a saved state, cold booting was the only fix for it.
node_modules too heavy to fit in this image
I have never had issues with android studio lol, even my laptop was okay with it
Can’t be that big of a project then. Or you don’t need emulator. Pretty much guaranteed to lag if you build + have emulator running and your PC is not insane
Visual Studio loads faster than VS Code for me
I find Visual Studio Code quite responsive for such amounts of functionality embedded inside.
Where is the TIA Portal? The heaviest Software on planet Earth
It's such a shame what they've done to visual studio since I used it as an IDE/to debug in the early 2000's.
Crazy that something which was performant and responsive on machines of that time, now brings monster chips like ryzen X3Ds to their knees just initializing.
Eclipse nobody?
That's why i write android code on paper
Vim, neovim, and emacs users seething from being etcetera'd away.
Old farts remembering when the labels would have been “nano, vi, xemacs, emacs”
Yoohoo, STM32CubeIDE would like to join this thread (after a brief sw update)
As far as I can remember, Atom was very slow.
Atom, I miss you 😔
fuck. xcode.
I work in faang and android devs are required to get the beefiest MacBooks to build fast
I don't know what Android Studio y'all are using but then 16GB RAM should be enough for good build time on most apps tbh.
I written Xcode not XCode.
where my vim boys at? flat as earth!
weird to see VS code SLOWER than Visual Studio 2022 on my machine (literally)
Why is this so true, i have a hp ryzen 5 8/512 gb ssd with two operating systems windows and linux both don’t have much stuff just mostly program files and some docs, but oh my god idk why but whenever i try to run big data programs or run pytorch or numpy like stuff or go for analysis patterns or just open more than 4 tabs at a time visual studio hangs like crazyyyyy, like it disrupts my productivity so fucking much, i’m honestly thinking if its due to the linux distro i use which is debian planning to switch to ubuntu also can’t uninstall windows as it supports chrome and i have to use chrome for most of my college related stuff but yeah idk what to do about it, the laptop is only 3 years old and buying a new one seems a waste of money and a lot of expense as well😔
Haven’t seen Brackets mentioned in a while
join the python master race, my brother. brackets? where we're going, we don't need brackets.
What about Python's strange brother Bython?
Why you remind me of that nightmare.
Jython
Thats just Python running JVM which is nto great not terrible.
Does it supports python libraries?
Considering its literally just a Python Interpreter Running on the JVM it should work. But Jython is currently only released for Python 2 and considering that has been that way for many years now we might never get a Jython for Python 3.
Ok got
JScript
Maybe that is because it's dead?
Just learned, they have some fork now, called Phoenix.
And Notepad++ 🫡