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ELI5: how do vinegar eels get into vinegar?

Never heard of them before a whatisit post which lead me down a rabbit hole. I get they are mostly harmless and people in the US probably have never seen/heard of them due to how we make vinegar filtered/pasturized. I also get that vinegar is basically sour wine that is left to ferment which requires yeast (an organism) but how do the vinegar eels get into the mother vinegar in the first place?

https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/1lvvyjg/eli5_how_do_vinegar_eels_get_into_vinegar/
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SaintUlvemann

For those who don't already know, vinegar "eels" aren't real eels, they're tiny nematode worms.

Their eggs just exist everywhere in natural environments. They hatch, grow up by eating bacteria, and then reproduce.

Their high tolerance for changes in pH allows them to feed on pH-altering vinegar-producing bacteria in rotting fruits. Any insect that is attracted to rotting fruit, will step in the pools of rotting fruit juice, picking up vinegar eel eggs on its feet, and spreading them throughout the environment.

So that is how they get into the mother vinegar, they hitch a ride on mobile insects such as fruit flies, and end up in the vinegar culture from bits of fruit and other biological material used in vinegar-making.

13 hours ago
Supraspinator

There’s a species of nematode that lives on moist beer mats in pubs. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panagrellus_redivivus

10 hours ago
SaintUlvemann

There's a quote from Nathan Cobb in 1914, the first guy to study nematodes extensively, and it always stuck with me. Basically he found that nematodes were so common, so diverse, and so specific to their habitats, that their population distribution basically replicates the entire rest of the world. He said:

In short, if all the matter in the universe except the nematodes were swept away, our world would still be dimly recognizable, and if, as disembodied spirits, we could then investigate it, we should find its mountains, hills, vales, rivers, lakes, and oceans represented by a film of nematodes.

The location of towns would be decipherable, since for every massing of human beings there would be a corresponding massing of certain nematodes.

Trees would still stand in ghostly rows representing our streets and highways.

The location of the various plants and animals would still be decipherable, and, had we sufficient knowledge, in many cases even their species could be determined by an examination of their erstwhile nematode parasites.

10 hours ago
conanmagnuson

These are the nematode quotes I come to Reddit for.

7 hours ago
Supraspinator

That’s a fantastic quote!

10 hours ago
RandomUsername6697 OP

It’s amazing how small the eggs have to be. Thanks for the info.

7 hours ago
Aartus

And i was hoping for an actual eel....

11 hours ago
nodomain

brb. Gotta go put my vinegar in the safe.

5 hours ago
jamcdonald120

https://www.reddit.com/r/vinegar/comments/k5kc9d/eli5_how_do_vinegar_eels_get_into_vinegar/

they are already living on the fruit that will get fermented.

there are various ways they could have gotten there, but probiably just rode oon the foot of a flying insect.

13 hours ago
Bitter-Exercise-841

Now my head is spinning because I soak my fresh fruit in a vinegar and water solution when I bring it home to kill parasites and bacteria. And now it sounds like in that process I'm creating a breeding zone for these things... I want to cry

5 hours ago
rankispanki

A baking soda wash is more effective if you're trying to kill parasites and such. But TBF straight water is almost as effective (https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acs.jafc.7b03118)

3 hours ago
jamcdonald120

dont worry, these are non harmful

2 hours ago
RandomUsername6697 OP

Haha great find.

7 hours ago
Zibilique

We went down the same rabbit hole for the same exact reason, thanks for the thread clearing up this question.

7 hours ago
RandomUsername6697 OP

Silver spoon of creepy bug things couldn’t be ignored.

7 hours ago
QuirkyShine1326

You came from there too? Lmao. I just googled them and found this post😂

7 hours ago
MrStealYoPoopy

Also here from the other post 🫡

7 hours ago
Fuzzydeath10

Tagging on but no lies, I am also from that other post. OP of this post is the true hero.

5 hours ago
grumpygoat1214

Same... Great minds think alike! 😂

5 hours ago
Possible_Parsnip4484

I think I'm following you down that same rabbit hole because I'm here because of "what is it "post and Google sent me right back to Reddit.. lol

6 hours ago
HawaiianBorrow

Me too lmao

6 hours ago
mediocreterran

If you follow the Kombucha subreddit, you can occasionally find a post where some poor soul has brewed their booch to completion only to find masses of vinegar eels inside. Sort of sad really.

4 hours ago
atomfullerene

Fun fact, as a US resident I am quite familiar with vinegar eels because I raise them as food for baby fish

Anyway, imagine a buisness that produces vinegar. They are always making new batches of it, and if their sanitation isnt the best, vinegar eels could easily stay present in their equipment and vats. Nematodes are everywhere

6 hours ago