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For anyone wondering, it's probably becauase they're cold-shocking the metal (=rapid shrinking) causing the relatively unchanged carbony bits to flake off.
This will destroy a telfon or ceramic pan and will likely warp a steel or aluminium pan too much for a flat-top electric.
I was going to drop that warning - don’t do this with your pans at home or the bottoms might never lay flat again.
If they already don't lay flat, will this fix them and make them lay flat?
I'm no pan scientist, but I think it'd just make it worse.
Yeah it might turn your warped pan into a full fledged bowl. (This isn't a factual statement, just a joke)
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I am a bi (theoretical) scientist, throwing a bucket of ice on your bottoms will usually not help with laying them, flat or otherwise
Okay but why did you tell us about your sexual preferences
Oh, based on the comment I replied to I thought we were sharing
That makes sense. I’m a pan scientist how did I miss it xD
I would contest that idea. Depending on the circumstances dropping ice on bottoms absolutely helps with laying. More of a Summer than Winter thing.
Hey, I said usually. The build of the bottom and the environment it's in may call for specific handling
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You have to do it perfectly though.
Also, it won't necessarily warp them in the first place.
According to my calculationations: warp + warp = more warp
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I just boil a little bit of water in the pan then scrub them out.
dish soap, baking soda, bit of water, set to boil and it'll do a lot of the scrubbing for you, depending on what's burnt on.
Or just use coarse salt and a rag.
Any tips for a metal wire basket/rack type thing?
Buy a new one?
Old housemate of mine'd cook steaks directly on the oven racks, took me oven cleaner (which is hellanasty, gloves are not optional) and almost an entire box of brillo pads to get them vaguely "ok".
In hindsight, the same boiling technique should help... if you've got a pot big enough.
don’t do this with your pans at home or the bottoms might never lay flat again.
This comment reads much differently in the kink community.
Not with ice but just throwing water in will do the same thing and is fine.
I’ve had cold water warp a hot stainless pan.
How would you ever deglaze a pan for a sauce or something?
Good point. Maybe it’s the amount of rapid cooling. Deglazing probably uses less water.
Any liquid will loosen up stuck bits on a hot surface. It's how you get the fond off. I don't know enough science to know if ice is more effective than water or why.
But yes. Absolutely don't shock your pans. I've got a couple that spin on my stove because of in-laws trying to be helpful.
"instead of scrubbing" as he strips layers off with a spatula
Jack Sparrow: Ah, but he didn't scrub!
That is literally the point. Scrubbing a commercial flat top clean is a massive undertaking. Icing it and scraping it clean takes a fraction of the time and energy and doesn't necessitate harsh cleaning chemicals. It's not "instead of cleaning" it's that scraping after dumping ice is faster and easier than scrubbing.
From my understanding, it is fake. I don't work with grills so I could be wrong.
And before anyone (predictably) complains that "he had the griddle too cold," he did a follow-up with the griddle turned up to its maximum temperature. It still didn't work. Once oil polymerizes onto the surface of a flat-top, it's not going to come off through just being thermally shocked or steamed.
I really, truly do not understand why some people get so upset about "harsh chemicals" being used to clean kitchen equipment. It's not going to end up in your food. It's going to get the equipment clean, get rinsed off, and then it'll be like it was never even there.
I have professionally cleaned hundreds of griddles. The ice method cleans it perfectly as long as it's cleaned every week at most. Many kitchens don't clean their grills for years. Those are best done with harsh chemicals and heavy scraping.
After using chemicals I always neutralize thoroughly with vinegar, then free rinse with water. There won't be any chemical residue left after that.
Thanks for the vinegar advice
A) His griddle is indeed too filthy to clean this way, but with less dirt it works great. If your pan is hot enough and your char isn't layered to where its reinforced, the water steam will lift the char off the grill. FYI, its steam that removes the char, not so much the temp crashing. I use a steam scrub for my grill too and it cleans between the grates even when the scrub is flat. It wont remove the larger burnt food bits but it will remove all the smaller parts that are less well adhered.
B) Because I don't trust people to care enough to properly wash stuff off. I'd rather them accidentally get char in my food or leave a fingerprint than accidentally leave santizer solution on my cup.
Well I used to clean a flat top every day, and I can confirm that the ice method works/makes the job easier. We still cleaned the grill with chemicals afterwards, but it definitely made the job easier.
It works, just not as well as they're implying. It's basically just something you do in the middle of the shift, you still have to clean it with chemicals at close or it will be dirty
You can't exactly shut down the grill and clean it in the middle of the day or you would then need to do everything in pans and the flat top would take a while to heat back up after you clean it.
Also adding water just makes grease traps easier to clean so it's just a quick hack but not the ultimate solution to cleaning it, it will still be dirty, just less so
Hey !! I like listening to him. Cool to see him mentioned in the wild
Sodium hydroxide. It is a strong base that dissolves/breaks down the bond to the cooktop.
I was waiting for him to show up, saw that clip ages ago
It also cracks flat tops like in the video. Was a chef.
> cracks flat tops
> Was a chef.
Took me too long to get your joke, lol. I never cracked a flat top, and I was morning shift at the time so I didn’t even see it happen. Unrelated career change.
I'm not a chef, but I was a cook for about a month before mismanagement ended up losing basically their entire kitchen staff, even people hired AFTER me (At 1 month, I was 2nd most senior cook, it was wild). Anyway, we just used a bottle of water from the fountain drink water spot.
We also would clean the broiler every morning before opening, and we had a bucket of ice water to put our gloved hand in when it would get too hot while cleaning. Not catch on fire hot, but "I'm burning my hand right now, OWW" hot.
Unfortunately not - its actually because they pre-treat it with griddle cleaner before putting the ice on it, anyone claiming to do it with ice alone is talking out of their arse.
It works for griddles. That's about it.
Cast iron pans, though too much shock can cause them to shatter. It will take a lot of ice though.
Last time this came up folks were saying that even for griddles the shock was going to screw up the metal over time.
So you leave the heat on toss ice on it then scrape? Or do you scrape as it melts?
I use water on my griddle while it's hot. Never tried ice.
Yeah this is just a quick hack to sort of halfway clean it in the middle of a shift. With the chemicals you're not supposed to have it hot for a few reasons, breathing in the fumes is very bad for you, it will burn the ever loving fuck out of you if there's any splashback at all, and the chemicals work fine on a grill that's just warm anyway.
Worst burn of my life was from those chemicals, got some on my finger, that entire night I couldn't sleep and had to keep my finger in a bowl of ice to stop from crying
This is the one time I’m really glad I read the comments. Thank you for posting that warning. Otherwise stupid heads like me would like ruin all our pans.
Appreciate it
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Saw another video about this, they put chemicals down and left it for a bit before adding the ice. It can help but doesn't get off everything.
Maybe the ice could damage it if it was made of cast iron or ceramic, but steel and aluminum are very strong and malleable and can withstand temperature shock very well. This is part of the reason why spacecraft frames are made of aluminum alloys.
That's why for those panda you can put room temp water on the pan and boil it. I don't do it all the time but it does wonders for those bits that get stuck on there.
No it isn't. They've already used the chemical cleaner, that's what the black is, not all burnt on food. The ice is just an entertaining looking way to rinse it of.
They put cleaner on before the ice and waited for it to dry before putting the water on to rehydrate the chemicals.
Do NOT put ice on hot greasy surface people.
Thank you!!
It’ll warp the flat top too
It doesn't even work that well. I've watched a few cooks try it and each time they are disappointed with the results. They then have to use the professional cleaners anyway.
Also, for anyone wondering why it actually cleaned the surfaces. They pre-treated it with grill cleaner before adding the ice. That's why it all came off so easily and you can clearly tell that chemicals have been added when you pause the video.
This is just spam who's sole purpose is to be viewed and commented on so it gets more views.
No, it's just plain old BS
they're just using grill cleaner and using the ice to wash it away
The videos aren’t real
It's actually just straight up bullshit. Notice there's always a cut before the grill is magically clean.
No, it doesn't even work at all
Reddit chefs living on lunchables downvoting this
I spent 4 hours doomscrolling past my bedtime to come across this post about cleaning ranges and you're going to interrupt and tell me to go to bed?
Its currently a running joke every time he does a video of him cleaning something thats not a grill there will be comments telling him to use ice, even stuff like a whiteboard.
Why am i not surprised it was gonna be chef Thomson lmao the people telling him to do it were so annoying.
I saw a guy test this 3 different times,all 3 times it didn't clean like that
Chef Thompson?
The guy is looking real good in his newest shorts
Yeah they just add the cleaning products too. It just looks flashy
Its how I used to do it. The ice did seem to help, I didnt have to use asmuch of the cleaning chemicals, and it went faster
Oh that's cool actually
It's actually a bit colder than that.
The video has cuts in it for a reason. Anyone who has worked in a kitchen knows that Water does a good job but it would just kill it like that without scrubbing the shit out of it with a wire brush still. But better than water is pickle juice, the vinegar really cleans it well
If youre cooking on a grill like in the video, use a cloth as well the water disturbs the carbon and then the cloth pulls it up
Using only ice doesn't work and is a misrepresentation of the method. You still have to use cleaning chemicals. The ice just helps move the process along.
how can be possible? this trick is gold, it even work with 50ml of water
Because none of these grills are actually dirty. These things see maybe a few hours of use whereas real grill tops see days of use between major cleanings. The grease becomes carbonized and even the completely safe grill cleaning chemicals alone aren't usually enough.
Basically the person who made this video is an idiot.
If you only clean the grill every few days that’s more of the issue than the ice not working.
I'm certainly no expert, but from the way you've described it, it sounds like the person who made the video isn't an idiot, they just clean their stuff regularly.
in fact if this is how easy it is to clean it as long as you do it once a day-ish, but after "days" its carbonized and it doesn't work anymore, I'd say the person waiting multiple days between cleanings is actually the idiot.
however that said, I also agree with the people saying thermally shocking the grill top constantly with this is a bad idea.
After a full day of cooking food at a restaurant, there will be enough carbon build up that ice cannot take care of it.
Carbonized fat and polymerized oils aren't water soluble. The people in the video cleaning with ice are lying. They simply use actual products first, get the build up off of the plate, then let it cool down\resolidify. After that you turn it up, throw ice on it, and the water will make it seem like it magically cleaned everything.
The only way to truly take off carbon build up like in restaurants is with the proper products/chemicals and something to scrub like a grill brick.
You are right that I've described it poorly. I believe if you did this ice cleaning every half hour it would get most of it but it'd also fuck up your surface. Either way I don't have direct experience with this, just what I've learned from a grill cleaning youtube channel
Finally someone tells that guy to shut up!
There's one with an Asian woman who did it better imo, but I can't find it
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I wish the testy one would at least learn how to spit in a cool way already. He's not projecting the spit and is dribbling on himself, and he's had multiple videos with I'm sure many takes to practice.
It’s to drive engagement. Same reason that ‘dunking his face in drinking water’ dude adds impossible times to his activity montages. Little errors or quirks bother people and get them to comment. Others who notice agree and add to engagement. I know the water guy has talked about it, wouldn’t doubt the spitter’s doing the same thing.
Lowered my engagement, because whenever I know he's in a video I don't watch it. And I'd normally give a viking type a follow and some likes, but I avoid him. Acting like a dribbling dotard lowered the hotness score down to zero.
That spitting dude managed to trick my ED couple of times. I reported his videos to TT but nothing ever happens from it. Blocking doesn't also always work on TT apparently.
Ice works SOMETIMES, I’ve worked in kitchens for 10+ years. BUT a LOT of these videos use degreaser/flat top cleaner first, let the residue sit on the flat top and almost re-burn on. Then will use ice to rinse the chemical solution off the girl and make it look like its cleaning everything. Go to bed
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Yep. I what it looks like when. It's just the water/ice vs cleaner and water, that flat top looked mighty sludgy for that to be 'just Ice's.
Broken stove tops inbound.
The ice thing is a hoax by the way. Easily verifiably wrong. So much that all the videos debunking it are boring. I don't know why that video so blatantly spreads a well known hoax
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Shouldn’t regular water work fine? I do this sometimes right after cooking because it’s basically the same as deglazing the pan except I’m draining or throwing everything away at the end
The thermal shock of the ice cold temp and the very hot grill is the problem. It can crack, warp, or other use damage the grill even if it takes a while.
The same is true of pans at home if you run a hot pan under cold water. Deglazing is usually with room temp liquid, often as part of cooking (e.g. with wine, vinegar, stock, etc.) Just try to avoid extreme temp changes.
For sure! I’ve never used anything but faucet water and a spatula before finishing it out with a towel. It’s worked just fine but then I’m no industrial all-day buisness cook. To me the ice here feels gimmicky. I assume a cup of normal water and some agitation to lift the bits up would be enough
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Guys this doesnt even work dont bother
I work for a restaurant company and some idiot doing this on the flat top cracked it at one of our restaurants. Don’t use ice to clean a hot metal surface.
Me warching ar 23:37 with the alarm clock ringing in 6h.
...okay sir... goodnight reddit.
Ice doesn’t work. It’s bullshit.
Have you seen anyone clean a deep fryer with ice?
No. Could it be because they either die or are left permanently disfigured from horrifying third degree burns on their faces, arms, and upper torsos?
You're fun.
This is like deglazing the pan.
That's not a useful skill, that's misinformation.
This does work at restaurants. Prolly not at home. But I’ve used it for years on restaurants flat tops. Learned it from others. We used to wrap the ice in the scrubby towels and rub it around that way.
The flat top at the last restaurant I worked at was warped because people thought this was a good idea
Seems to be someone else’s problem though.. not the people who slave over it for hours then have to clean it before they can go home….
I spent many nights slaving over that flat top and never had a problem cleaning it without ice cubes...
Yep I've worked in lots of pubs/restaurants. The ones with older, more experienced chefs all did this.
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The real trick is ice water and getting the top level sloughed off. Then you take your scrub pad with a handle and get the caked on part. Once cool, wipe the surface with cleaner. It was one of my only favorite parts of closing.
We would use sprite when out of grill cleaner. Worked well and left it nice and shiny
This is fake tiktok bullshit. Doing that to your pans at home is a great way to warp the fuck out of them. And it doesn't work on commercial flat tops either.
I worked at a restaurant where the metal part of the Flat top popped off the rest of the machine when it was cleaned with ice. Not as violent as it sounds but still fucked it up a bit. I’ve never tried it since
I actually do need to go to bed though
Seltzer water while griddle or pans are still hot.
Del taco does this.
😂😂 03:58am here almost felted embarrassed when he said go to sleep then the black guy reminded me, I'm here for a reason 😂😂😂
His reaction may have changed my life
When I worked at McDonald’s we used Sprite to clean the grill until we learned it would turn the morning eggs green.
This is supposedly bad for the stove top. I have to clean one everyday and we use a chemical that gets it all off and told to not use ice
they rub cleaner on the cook top before dumping the ice on it
Every time I see this I burst out dying. One of my co-workers a few years ago. Thought this was a good idea. The steam set off the sprinkler system right into the fryers. I don't know if it was extinguisher fluid or water that came out but somehow it made the fryers boil over and splash out completely emptying from the top somehow There was oil everywhere. They called everyone in on their day off to come clean up her mess I think it cost the owner $2,000 to reset the system plus all the employees getting paid to clean up the mess
Worked in a kitchen and they just used some water and it works pretty much exactly the same. It just steam cleans. You don't need a bunch of ice.
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Commercial flat top gas grills use soda water and a wet rag to clean.
Fyi: this doesn't work for "the toughest burnt on grease". It's more or less the same as using water, which is pretty good at surface level stains, less good at stains that have polymerised into the plate top.
One of my first jobs, we used iced cubes to clean the (glass) coffee pots to remove the black bits. I never knew why, but it worked. Really well!
I do actually need to go to bed though, it's half past 3 in the morning.
the excessive narration manages to always be painful
I cleaned grills like this at McDonalds back in the day. But we just used water and did the same thing
I clean a flat top with ice like every night. It works. It's not magic, you still have to get in there, but it works. We throw a lil lemon juice in there too, I'm not sure if that helps at all or why we do that, but the combo does the job.
Also warp the crap out of your range over time
It aint real the pure the chemicals on (hence the dried foam) and make the water from the ice to re activate the dried chemicals
Last i remember this is a good way in how you void your warranty on your expensive commercial stove top.
"put me to bed now 😡(🙂)"
This is bullshit.
Debunked multiple times.
The "stove"(maybe has another name) must be warm?
yeah, no, those ai voice videos are a waste of time. The goal of them is to just get your attention. Ice doesn't do anything. Now an acid, like lemon water, that would help deglaze a bit.
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Love the teeth suck 😂
Thank you.. i can go to bed now.
Hey, whatever works for you
We tried this a couple a days ago. It doesn't do shit. You still need to clean it the traditional way
Its called "deglazing" and would work any liquid... literally any liquid such as water, chicken stock, juice, beer, wine etc...
Lol who has a block of ice that big 🤣 😂
Doing this will end up causing a bent corner, similar as you can see in this other post due to the fast temperature change caused by the ice. This can also happen if you heat it too fast.
I used to use banana pepper juice
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Papa Swolio is a real one though. He just wants the best for you
Funfac the ice thing has already been debunked anyways lol
It works, it just also works at warping or breaking your flat top
Ah I see
This does not work.
Sweet. Gonna use this trick on my wife's cast iron skillet that she's had passed down from her grandmother. She's gonna be so happy when she sees I've finally gotten it actually clean.
When we were younger we didn’t have a lot of money so I thought for Mother’s Day I’d clean my mums wok, she was so happy, wasn’t til about 15 that I learned I ruined it and she was devastated.
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