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Eww, kid. Eww.
Not a kid
People get tried as adults for this stuff at 16. This idiot wouldn’t be getting out of jail till his late 40s. Could be a life sentence in the worst case scenario.
It's honestly pretty crazy how many songs men wrote in the 70s and 80s that were blatantly about them trying to fuck kids.
Obviously a lot came before and after too. But the 80s were... yikes.
It's honestly pretty crazy how many songs men wrote in the 70s and 80s that were blatantly about them trying to fuck kids.
Let's keep in mind that back in the day it was a simpler time in music, a time of innocence and purity
There's a song called "Naughty Town" parodying these kinds of songs and plays out like a regular 80's rock-romance classic until the chorus kicks in with "SHE'S NINE!" I think the biggest inspiration for it was Cherry Pie.
Ok that was good. Bad. Both. But really surprisingly good.
Or "13" by The Brian Jonestown Massacre
Aaliyah's debut album "Age Ain't Nothing But a Number" was written and produced by R Kelly. Aaliyah was 15 when that album was released in 1994.
Him being in the background of the album cover just makes it even worse, TBH.
The title track is...just as bad as you'd think from the title of the song/album.
Sometimes I get seriously depressed that he wrote you are not alone for Michael Jackson. I wanted to believe he was innocent like MJ BUT OF COURSE HE COULDN’T BE!!! You write “You Are Not Alone” and “I Believe I Can Fly” (to say nothing of his many other hits, both PG pop and earlier years seXXXi RnB)) then you just have to be enslaving teens to keep the balance I guess ?? 😭😭😭😭😭
Hell there’s a Beatles song that starts with “well she was just seventeen…you know what I mean.” In 1963.
No paul, what do you mean?!
“I saw her standing there” by the Beatles
They were all in their 20’s.
Well... at least it was 17 and not 12. God. The bar is low.
What about that song by KISS? Christine Sixteen (1977)
How bout Jailbait by Ted Nugent? About a 13 year old
My thoughts exactly but...don't read the lyrics cause the age alone aint the worst thing in there...
Paul was just 20 when he wrote it. It was a very different time. It's a song about dancing at a party and falling in love. They were also a band marketed to young teens. Lots of reasons not to view one of the biggest Britpop songs of all time through a creepy modern lens.
20 and 17 is still pretty normal
Ish. 27 and 30 is a lot more acceptable IMO than 17 and 20. Those first few years of adulthood after school are a huge change in maturity.
I mean yes but honestly I don't see 20 year olds as significantly more mature then 17 year olds but I'm sure they think they are.
That minute bit of time between the two can mean a world of experience in terms control. The amount of manipulative tactics you can learn in a year is flooring
The only one I came across was "Young woman" be Bad Boys Blue, she's supposed to be 16yo.
Read motley crews drummers bio the other day and they were fucking disgusting.
"Dancing queen, young and sweet, only 17."
I mean, not defending it, but Winger is from NY and the age of consent is 17, so...
Think whatever you want about it, but the act, if it happened, wouldn't have been illegal then or now.
Not terribly interested in a moral debate about these kinds of things (simply because some people think its morally wrong to have sex outside of wedlock, which is fucking absurd religious bullshit. Everyone's entitled to their opinions, I just don't care to hear any, too much annoyingly easily triggered people on reddit), just simply stating a fact that this wouldn't have broken a law, so it isn't a great example of what you're going for.
And before redditors think they're super fucking clever: no I don't live in NY, no I dont think 17 year olds are attractive, and FUCK NO I dont listen to Winger.
He doesn't even look 19 boy look 12 driving his momma car
Omg I had to re-read the caption cause I thought it said HE was 12 and she was 19
If his parents see this I'm sure his soul left his body
Even the phrase “you may be young, but you’re ready” makes me hurl.
That’s the most groomer phrase ever.
Raid the fucking writer's room for even putting that on paper, who knows what else they couldn't work in
That eggplant head needs to get his phone broke.
Hey now, don't insult eggplants like that.
That kid is 14
God, if you're going to upload shit like this at least make sure your singing doesn't sound like a dying cat.
I thought it made it even funnier.
hope he meant a 12/10
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He just admitted to it right to pick him up
Ooooof! That song lyric….
"Annie's 12 years old, in 2 more she'll be a whore..." yeah, it's fuckin' weird how normalized shit is.
Hope he ain't acquitted like Diddyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
Okay, just out of curiosity. Don't shoot me. What's the "suitable range"?
20 dating 27 is fine...? Or is that also not acceptable?
Like what's the acceptable norm here? It's only a no if you're sub 18? Or is it not suitable until you reach a certain range?
I know a dude who's been with his gal for like 30 years. They started when they were 12 or something. The dude was 14? She was 12.
So yeah... What's a range?
as a society we've decided, based on the science available, that while a person's brain is still developing they cannot give informed consent to an adult. so anybody who is under that age (changes by state) is off-limits to anybody over that age. it may be a little arbitrary (any law like this would be cuz people mature at different rates) but it's better than the alternative.
but in terms of "acceptable norms" that's all just personal opinion, case by case. Like, a 90 year old fuckin a 20 year old — Do I get it? No. Do I wanna see it? No. Is it acceptable? Sure! They're adults, they can do what they want.
your example of the couple fucking for 30 years was probably legally statuatory rape at some point but I don't think most people are gonna have an issue with that.
This absolutely did not clear away any of my confusion, but I'm glad this is also my world view. So I'm not being offensive by thinking of two young couples dating as long as they are young and stupid together they are fine. And 90 yrs old and 20 fking is insane
I know in Texas there is the Romeo and Juliet law. Both people must be above 14 with no more than 3 years difference btwn them. That way when one of them turns 18 before the other, it doesnt automatically become illegal. I dont know about other states though.
There's a 'rule', half your age +7.
So if you are 50. Half (25) + 7 = 32. You shouldn't consider dating someone under the age of 32.
So, in the video, he is 19. 9.5 + 7= 16.5
Things get weird in the teens and early 20s. You are rapidly growing, developing as a person, and hormones won't settle down until your 20s.
For example, 16 year old might be concerned about a math test and if Jessica is going to wear the same dress to homecoming. The 19 year old may be apartment hunting, worrying about paying for college, and how he is going to afford that with his part-time min wage job.
Late teens and young 20s are still new to relationships. Abusive age gap relationships are more common during the late teens/ early 20s. Yes, they are technically adults, but they still have a lot of growing to do and can be taken advantage of. (Age gap relationships can work, but statistics aren't on your side.)
So, while there isn't a hard range (other than state consent laws), there are other factors to consider.
Another example is a 30 year old may be blossoming in his career while a 60 year old would be looking to retire. Totally legal relationships, but in different stages of life.
Okay yeah, very nicely explained. Thank you!!
It should be noted that that "rule" is from a web comic. https://xkcd.com/314/
"In many early sources, the rule was primarily presented as a formula to calculate the ideal age of a female partner at the beginning of a heterosexual relationship" gross
Yeah, that bit I didn't know.
I was told about the rule many years ago when I was like 10 butting into adult conversations.
One family member is in his 60s cashing after an 18 year old girl and the family was telling him off.
I was told the rule was the lowest you should go, not that it was the ideal age.
But yeah, ideal age is super gross.
I hadn't heard that bit either till just now
I personally like Oklahoma’s age of consent/romeo Juliet law/ what I call the “speed bump”
It essentially revolves around the age of 16. At 16 you can date 2 years above or below legally but nothing more nothing less. So the youngest an 18 year old can date is 16, but a 19 y/o can’t date a 16 y/o. I’m pretty sure it scales like, a 17 y/o could date a 19 y/o without legal problems but don’t quote me.
I also like that it addresses the awkward “minors dating minors” aspect, it essentially says a junior/sophomore can date a freshman but NOTHING YOUNGER THAT 14. Ain’t no teen that can drive gonna be picking their gf up from middle school hell nah 😭
The most commonly cited "rule" is to not date anyone younger than half your age + 7. Personally I think this is a bit restrictive and breaks down for people in their early teens, so I prefer either half + 5 rounded up or half + 6 rounded down.
For 20 and 27, the common rule gives a minimum age of 20.5, so would find this unacceptable. It would be fine under my rules, which give 19 as the minimum
For 14 and 12, the common rule suggests 14 year olds should not date anyone with even a 1 year age gap (hence why I say the rule breaks down in early teens). It would be acceptable with my suggested half + 5
Divide by 2. Add 7. Works every time.
So 20 dating a 17...?
Sounds like a transverse of Celcius to Fahrenheit
I don't make the rules.
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