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Denis Villeneuve’s ‘Dune 3’ Gets Official Title 'Dune: Part Three', Will Be Shot With Imax Cameras
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I don't wanna read too much into it, but I guess we're not gonna see a straighforward adaptation of Dune Messiah.
Definitely not. Can’t imagine it was ever going to be a straightforward adaptation. Messiah does not make for a blockbuster trilogy ender. I imagine we’re going to see a lot of the holy war that takes place between Dune and Messiah.
You're probably right but I think it would be a cool end of the trilogy. How could he make a messiah movie without nukes that melt stone and radiation that melts eyeballs. And Paul walking around like he can see fine, throwing knives at people while his eyeballs are melted That's absolute cinema.
Yeah, the scene that stands out in my mind that would be great on film is when Paul’s in the room full of fremen who want him to go away because he lost his eyes and he responds by singling out individuals for what they’re doing and wearing, suggesting without his eyes he still sees better than all of them.
until suddenly, he doesn’t. Turns out when there are 2 opposing prophets in the room they cancel each other out.
I just finished reading Children of Dune. I want Leto II the Wormman
Gonna need you to finish God emperor before asking for that. Our CGI tech is impressive but not nearly as the level that Leto needs.
They could just ask Heidi Klum if she still has the worm dress lying around
There is pretty much nothing we can’t make look photorealistic with time and budget at this point - making that character on screen is more up to art direction and making sure the design itself works.
D-Neg and whoever else is going to be running this are very very capable in that regard.
The challenge with Leto II is to make a human-sandworm hybrid look terrifying and cool rather than ridiculous. Judging by the artwork I've seen over the years, it's pretty tough.
I think the best approach would be to barely show it for most of the film. Keep him in shadows when he's at home. Have his automated cart thing mostly conceal his body.
Then when he's out in the desert, or having a violent episode, just fully pivot the other way to 99% worm mode.
He's supposed to be barely holding onto his humanity, so there's no need to even attempt balancing the hybrid parts. Let him oscillate between cryptic philosopher and beast mode as needed.
It totally is. Rendering and animations would probably look photorealistic. Hard part would be the design of him
Like 2 mistborns each burning atium
I wager it'll probably be the general plot of Messiah, but mid jihad instead of the end of the jihad. Throw in some battle set pieces to spice up what is a pretty dialogue heavy book
And just based on the ages of the actors, I wouldn’t be surprised if they shrink the time skip as well. Book Messiah is 12 years after Dune, but I bet the movie is more like 5-6 years later.
If I remember right, Paul's ability to see the future is so strong, he can still see and navigate through the world without eyes, right? My mind was blown by this concept in high school. I still love it.
Yes, he gets so good at managing his prescience that he can clearly see the future microseconds ahead of him, which effectively is the same as seeing with your eyes.
That's just Daredevil with extra steps!
If there’s no scene where Paul gets eyes melted out and can see the path, then why even make the movie?
I imagine the story of Messiah will be the third act of the movie. Paul explicitly tells the audience he’s the bad guy and it ends on a very somber war=bad note. Perfect for the current political landscape. Wins best picture.
If it ends with his talk about how he's killed so much more people than that old Earth Hitler guy, and he looks at the camera and tells us about the dangers of charismatic leaders it will be certified fresh on rotten tomatoes ez.
That doesn't happen until Children though. They way he did the time skip means there is a whole lot of work to be done to even establish the major narrative pieces. Alia and powers needs to be addressed.
I can’t imagine lady Jessica being on another planet in the film
Whatever plotline we need to get Ferguson in the film I'm all for.
Especially we got robbed of her in the final MI movie
May I interest you in Silo at this trying time?
We could have a split storyline going on of Paul out during his jihad and his mom on Dune doing shit with her abomination baby
I noticed they used the A-word in 2 for Paul, I’m like, “oh you haven’t seen a real abomination yet.”
How much was Paul even participating in the Jihad though?
I recall it sounding like he was actively participating fighting in battles on other planets, but im not entirely sure.
Obviously messiah starts years later but isn’t he on arrakis the entire book just dealing with the women in his life being either pregnant or not pregnant and the political repercussions of that. Not saying he didn’t fight in earlier battles but with how guarded he is and how much the Jihad isn’t something he enjoys causing I don’t think he’d be actively fighting
The end of Paul and the creation of the legend of Muad'dib at the end of Messiah is a good place to end it considering we've been following Paul's arc from the start. Its not like there isn't some tension in the final moments there. And the battle at the end of Dune part 2 is far from the key element in the movie.
Completely agree. The ending of Messiah will likely be the end of this movie. I just don’t think Hollywood suits are greenlighting a three hour direct adaptation of Messiah. We will see a lot of the blood and gore Herbert skips over that leads into the start of Messiah.
Which is fine. Different mediums have different strengths. The films can skip what is best conveyed in a novel as the novel skips what is best shown on film and the two can be companions to one another.
Could not agree more.
There's no way. Dune 2 ends with Zendaya fucking off and all the major houses in open rebellion against Paul. The novel had Chani firmly loyal to Paul at the end and she started as his defacto wife, while Paul consolidated all of his power the day the emperor stepped down.
Paul does say that Chani forgives him based on his visions of the future, so she's likely back by the beginning of part 3 or comes back during it.
They had a single dreamlike pre-crisis night together, then dramatically split up, so she is basically guaranteed to be pregnant. Presumably that will play a part in pushing them back together.
The reason she rides off into the sunset on a worm is because of hormones, calling it now
Wormones
I can't remember why the jihad even happened then, cuz you're right Dune ends with consolidating power, but Dune Messiah is a 60b+ genocide. Who's Paul killing?
Paul isn't killing anybody. The Freman are in a sort of religious fervor now that they have their Messiah and are finally going off Arrakis and ransacking the rest of the planet. It's well established that Paul couldn't even stop the jihad if he wanted to because it sociological phenomena. It's totally beyond Paul's control by that point and before the end of the first novel he realizes if there was a point of no return to stop it, he already was well past it.
yeah, the point of no return was way before, when he killed jamis. had he been killed by jamis his legend wouldn't flourish, but at the moment he won the duel the wheels started turning for Muad'dib Jihad
Yup. Jamis is what really gets Stilgar and the harshest zealots into Paul. Even if Paul ran away after, they have their god to propel them forward. Paul just spends the novel trying to avoid the Jihad and also get revenge on his family. Then once his son with Chani is killed in the attack Paul finally just accepts that it doesn't matter what he does, and there's no point in holding back on the Emperor and the Baron.
I feel like they were setting up the sociological cult following pretty well so far. The whole no matter what he says or does and you got Stilgar going lisan al giab! Like a meme or something.
I could see Paul going no stop guys this is madness and the extra hard believers going our dear leader is so compassionate wanting to stop the war we wage because he cares about us, but we war because we care about him too, so on we war....
I feel like they were setting up the sociological cult following pretty well so far. The whole no matter what he says or does and you got Stilgar going lisan al giab! Like a meme or something.
I actually think the film undermines it a bit by giving Paul a reason in the refusal of the Great Houses to accept him (which also makes marrying Irulan pointless).
The point, in the books, was that nothing could be done about it at a certain point. Paul could kinda direct it but someone was going to pay the price for giving the Fremen that religion and oppressing them for centuries.
I mean, it's not pointless to marry Irulan even if you are fighting against the nobles of the feudal society. Any legitimacy gained makes it that much easier to convince people to accept a peace offer, switch sides, and makes ruling afterwards easier too. (Not in the context of dune, just in general.)
Other planets and people in the dune universe. He’s seen as a living god by his followers and anyone not 100% on the muaddib train is getting erased (even if Paul tells them not to)
It's like 12 years later, right? They could have aged everybody up I guess but given how the previous movie ended I think it taking place on a more condensed timeline was expected
Don't forget that Spice slows aging.
This is a part of the books that I honestly forgot until the film versions. Because while it makes sense, its so in the background. And serendipitously it really does help with casting haha.
It’s a marketing thing not an indicator of the script. I’d bet Villeneuve will push for a very Messiah focused script with the occasional holy war insert for general audiences.
Yeah I agree here, I think if they called it Dune: Messiah people would assume it was a spinoff like Dune: Prophecy. Too many IPs are doing too many spinoffs and reboots nowadays to make that naming convention work anymore.
Dune Part 3 makes it clear it's a direct continuation from the end of the last movie.
ok so bear with me a moment.
in my opinion, i think merging Messiah and Children of Dune, then streamlining out the cruft, and then splitting the result into two films would be the best solution as someone who’s read the first 4 books.
fingers crossed for God Emperor on the big screen in my lifetime.
I don't think Villeneuve wants to get into the part where Leto starts grafting trout to his body.
That kinda seems right up Denis alley though, we had a crazy spider monster in enemies! I got my hope up lol
Leto is a little different then a manifestation of a man's subconscious lol
He's said previously that everything after the second book is "too esoteric" to be filmable
Let him cook with Rendezvous with Rama (please god let that still happen alongside the Bond film and Cleopatra) and see if he gets a bit more comfortable with old weird scifi on the screen.
And he stripped most of the fuckin weird stuff out of Dune so far. And it's still weird!
he’s one of my favorite modern filmmakers - i trust him 👍
See thats my thing. I tried reading the Dune books but they just get so fuckin out there at a certain point it's honestly dont know how they could possibly adapt it.
I don’t know, I love God Emperor for the underlying themes, but there’s so much of being inside his head while he physically just worm-sits it’s hard to imagine it working.
Only real opportunity we get a worm god on screen is as a flash forward at the end of the movie. Which would honestly be enough for me because there's no chance in hell a God Emperor movie would get made for the exact reason you said. I could see parts of Children working fine on the big screen but disgusting worm man waxing philosophical for 3 hours with his lab grown wife no way.
Maybe if they filmed back to back but he just got announced for the next Bond which I imagine he wants to start production on. Plus Redevous with Rama which he still has in development
Messiah isn’t really about Alia and Leto. It’s the end of Paul’s story and children of dune is a very different story. They shouldn’t be combined
One is the story of Paul denying his prescience, and js a story that has nothing happen until the end because every already knows how it’ll end (since they can see the future).
Children is the story of Jessica’s giving Alia magic fetal alcohol syndrome and the consequences and Leto accepting the prescience that Paul rejected. They are both good stories but combining them would be really rushed and the first two movies are already rushed.
The end of Paul's story is in children. Alia is massively important in Messiah. It's what leads to her down fall. Messiah is the story of a man doing everything he can to reject the godhood he assumed for his own gains. Children is the fall out of that decision.
“He was on Arrakis with my Reverend Mother researching Spice right before she died.”
This comment is way too funny. Well done.
The film will also include sequences shot with Imax cameras. However, “Dune: Part Three” will not be entirely shot with Imax cameras, following in the footsteps of Christopher Nolan’s “The Odyssey,” which is the first and so far only film to be produced that way.
In an interview on CNBC, Imax CEO Richard Gelfond seemed to suggest that the next “Dune” would be filmed entirely with the company’s proprietary cameras, but it appears he misspoke.
The headline is still technically correct because it doesn't include "entirely," but especially when seeking to dispel false news about that yesterday, it's a bad headline.
People are still running away with this being "the second after The Odyssey" when it clearly isn't, the distinction hasn't been properly communicated
Should have gone with: Dun3
If it was 2008 it would be
Dun3 M3ssiah would be hilarious actually.
Dune 3: here we dune again, again
Was really hoping it would have a more suspenseful title like ‘Dune Dune Dune’
Dune Dune Dune DUUUUUNE
I actually really like that it’s just 1-2-3
Should've been: - Dune - Dune 360 - Dune One
Can't wait for Dune X/S
Consistency is a nice little touch.
Looking at you John Wick
- John Wick
- John Wick 2
- John Wick 3: Parabellum
- John Wick 4
Just retcon 3 to make sense.
Edit: To everyone pointing out other franchises that are all over the place... Yeah that's not the point. It's that this series has just one combo breaker and it makes it that much weirder to do that.
That’s still a lot better than:
First Blood
Rambo: First Blood Part II
Rambo III
Rambo
Rambo: Last Blood
There are five movies in the Shaft franchise.
Three of them (the ones released in 1971, 2000, and 2019) are just called Shaft.
And who could forget the three different Halloween titled movies
One of which is a direct sequel to another hah
Up until last Halloween when I watched Halloween III: Season of the Witch, I’d only seen five of them: Halloween, Halloween II, Halloween, Halloween II, and Halloween.
I was going to mention the Shaft franchise. I love going on a rant about Shaft and refusing to distinguish which of the three Shafts I'm talking about.
The Fast and the Furious
2 Fast 2 Furious
The Fast and The Furious Tokyo Drift
Fast & Furious
Fast Five
Fast & Furious 6
Furious 7
The Fate of the Furious (sometimes written as just "F8")
F9
Fast X
At least with these there's no pattern to break.
Well buckle up, because it's gonna keep getting weirder as there's a prequel/reboot being shopped around that is called ... John Rambo.
https://deadline.com/2025/05/rambo-origin-movie-john-rambo-sylvester-stallone-1236399700/
The fourth one just being called Rambo is needlessly confusing
While John Wick 4 is one of the better ones in terms of action, I absolutely hated the fact that they just threw away the whole "take the entire system down" storyline and replaced it with "actually we can't do that, we have to take this one guy down within the rules of the system instead"
I just recently watched John Wick 4. It was very good, arguably second best in the series, but it's too long. The first hour could be significantly shortened.
The stair could use fewer steps.
Also feel like they could've cut Mr Nobody (the bounter hunter with a dog) from the movie. He doesn't contribute a lot to the movie's plot and thematic (aside from remind the audience that John loves dog i guess). The studio was probably was baking on him to become popular, so they can make a spin off with him
I liked how Mr nobody was the super special tracker and cane was there each time anyway. Like I honestly struggle to think about what he contributes that cane didnt.
a dog
Even worse, it's John Wick: Chapter 3 - Parabellum
John Wick 2 and 4 also use “chapter” in the title
And this better than:
-The Fast and the Furious
-2 Fast 2 Furious
-The Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift
-Fast and Furious
-Fast 5
-Fast and Furious 6
-Furious 7
-The Fate of the Furious
-F9: The Fast Saga
-Fast X
-Fast X Part 2
Absolute nonsense. Not even an attempt to have any kind of pattern or naming conventions
Fate of the Furious is pretty clever though
I thought they'd go this direction. Announcing casting of the twins sort of tipped me off, too. Now he's not stuck to Messiah, wonder if or how much of Children of Dune we'll get.
Could very well be a momentary vision scene showing certain characters to be introduced in the future.
Absolutely could, like they did with Alia. I think he may lean into the changes, kind of like how Return of the King took some fair liberties with the story but overall everything came out mostly the same as the books, thematically.
He never had a vision of Leto II before they were born because of him being prescient too
It could be a vision that we see through Leto II’s eyes right at the very end.
He could also ignore that plot point and simplify it, but I hope not.
Not sure how the twins being 20 or so and Timothy still looking like he's 22 is going to work. I'm sure they'll figure it out, but it's the downside of picking a Babyface actor.
They live on a planet where all the food is suffused with a Spice that is known to slow the aging process when consumed. It may be weird for us in the real world, it's not actually that weird in the setting of the films.
I mean Timothy will be 30 years old next year
Still looks like he has his first beer
He’s just more androgynous, they could easily rough him up with makeup
Melange extends life and reduces aging, so canon-wise there's no need to age him.
3 Dunes 3 furious
Really had to go into a spice-hole to predict this one.
With how amazing Part 1 was, and how Part 2 completely and utterly surpassed it, Part 3 is now one of my anticipated films of the last 5 years or so. It’s gonna be absolutely gorgeous too.
I liked part 1 more than part 2 tbh. Still hyped as fuck
Same. I’ve re-watched both a few times I much prefer watching part one again.
Part 1 did a lot of awe inspiring world building. It’s shot in a way that displays the world of Dune with some exposition. I loved that process and Part 2 didn’t have much of it. Part 2 is still amazing, and I think is a better movie, but I like Part 1 more.
They could call it Dune: The Search for More Money and I’d still go see it.
Forreal. ‘Dune: Fuck You, Pay Us’. K
Good. If the title says “Dunes: Worms”, I’d be concerned….
D3NE or DIIINE or DUUUNE incoming
You're missing DUN3 surely
The easiest one was right there lol
DUN3 by D3NIS
I think pulling from Children of Dune makes sense, considering that Villenueve’s out after this film. Frankly, I’m not sure anything after Children of Dune’s filmable.
What do you mean? Half worm God emperor and 6000 year old sex god Duncan Idaho are totally filmable (Dune really does go from zero to 1970’s acid trip really fast)
Dune: iMax
Combing Children of Dune and Messiah into one movie is the right call, perhaps they’ll end it with a scene of God Emperor Leto
I highly doubt that dune part 3 will adapt children of dune. I think the casting of the twins will be for a vision scene that’s like the adult Alia scene in dune part 2.
Yes! Hopefully it'll be a combination of Messiah and Children. Not enough meat on either book for a movie each, but as one movie it might set the stage nicely for someone else to make a wierd God Emperor movie
I'm now picturing a Godfather Part 2 type structure about the rise of Leto II and the fall of Paul. Could end with both of them walking out into the desert in their respective timelines.
FWWAAAAHHHHHHH
AhhhhaaaaAaaAAAAAAHH!
I’m so ready.
Glad they’re sticking with the straightforward title
revolutionary
Genuinely thought this was a r/shittymoviedetails post at first lol
Or r/ nottheonion.
i was sure the title was gonna be les deuxnes
Folie a Deuxne
Motherfuckers couldn't even title it Dun3.
3UNE
Thrune
THRUN3 - The Search for more Sand.
"Done"
BUNE
It 100% would have this name if it were releasing in the 2000s instead. That's peak 00's marketing.
Or the 2010’s with Fant4stic
I will forever read this as "Fant-Four-stick"
Sounds like some knock-off adhesive brand.
Say th4t again
Th4t again.
We got Expend4bles just two years ago, this stuff is not dead
We really missed out on having 2ne
Dun3: Arrakis Drift
In this house Denis Villeneuve is a hero. End of story!
Shai Hulud had a 980 lb mole removed from its ass
Oh that's someone's wife!
My estimation of Denis Villeneuve as a man just fuckin plummeted
Thousands of dollars on Baron Harkonen. Jack Shit for Paul.
It is actually, considering this is adapting the next book that's subtitled "Messiah"
Dune 3: Messiah
Dune 4: A Very Naughty Boy
Dune 5: Oh you thought it couldn't get any more weird?
Dune 6: It did.
Dune 7: Okay We'll Stop With the Self Aware Names
Dune 8: Got you there yet again! Part 1
Dune 10: The Search for Dune 9
Dune 11 (Taylor's Version)
Dune 12: A Møøse once bit my sister!
Dune 5: Would you still love me if I was a Worm?
Dune 6: Nope
Some rumours that bits of 'children of dune' is in the mix
That would make sense to me - Messiah isn't a very "cinematic" book apart from a couple events (namely one towards the end).
Perhaps Denis plans to show some of the jihad instead of just rolling with the large time skip the book does?
I am in the middle of children of dune now and I really have no idea how they are going to adapt this to a wide audience and make it entertaining.
I am starting to question if I will even finish children of dune at this point.
It gets weird but the ending does do some cool stuff. I remember being kinda bored in the middle but enjoying the end
Good to know!! I just can’t help myself yelling out Muad’Dib!!! Everytime I hear them say it in the audiobooks!!
Next dog I get going name it Muad’Dib!
You should name it chairdog.
Oh and it gets WEIRDER after that buddy. Trust me. I’m in the middle of god emperor and it’s taking me a while
I’m in the middle of Heretics of Dune. It doesn’t get any less weirder
You're not gonna believe what I have to say about Chapterhouse
You don't know weird dune until you do the next trilogy lol.
But yeah I'm very curious to see how books 2 and 3 come about on film.
I am looking forward to the weird it’s just slightly boring at the moment.
I would love that. Messiah is interesting but it would be hard to adapt to a completely engaging movie
Have you seen the syfy miniseries adaptation? It’s not an IMAX worthy interpretation but it does a good job at being engaging.
Honestly I was expecting Dune Part 2 Part 2
Reminds me of the Jedi Knight games from the 90s.
The first game in the series was
Star Wars: Dark Forces.
Then part two was Star Wars: Jedi Knight - Dark Forces II.
Then part 3 was Star Wars Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast
part 4 was Star Wars Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy
Reminds me of the Heretic video game series:
Or even worse, the Rambo movie series:
I would have loved to see Star Wars: Dark Forces III: Jedi Knight II and then Star Wars: Dark Forces IV: Jedi Knight III: Outcast II
Dune: The Final Season Part 3.
2 dune 2 furious
No, it's "'Dune: Part Three', Will Be Shot With Imax Cameras" which is novel.
The type of genius we expect from Villenueveve
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Florals. For spring.