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KD talking to Steve Nash about their time in Brooklyn: “I felt like we were committed, but everybody else wasn’t.”
This is from the Mind the Game podcast, with LeBron, Nash, and KD, found here: https://youtu.be/QLzftuwX9XM?si=yKSff3Ff5HnHu5hL
Wider transcript from this part of the conversation, providing some more context:
(KD and Steve Nash had started discussing their time together on the Nets.)
KD (talking directly to Steve Nash): “I had just signed that deal. You had just signed a deal. But, I feel like, we was secure but everything else around us was going to shit. Not in a bad way. We got GMs going to other teams, we got coaches going to other teams, we got players… forcing trades. We bring in Ben Simmons, his back… it was just so much bullshit around us.
I feel like we were locked in on the same page and understanding like we’re tryna do something special here. But, I feel like your hands were tied a lot because as a coach you got to deal with so much ya know.”
Steve Nash: “I didn’t get to coach as much as I wanted to.”
KD: “That’s what it was. I didn’t think… we didn’t get the full Steve Nash like I wanted, like you probably wanted.
I just felt like it was just too many distractions in a way, and you know you can’t win that way.
But I felt like we had great intentions though. I feel like we cared enough, I felt like every day we were tryna push towards winning a championship. It was a great vibe in there. It was some of the best times. That first year… that’s why I signed that deal. Most fun ball I had. Some of the most fun ball I had playing my whole life. I enjoyed it. I enjoyed Brooklyn a lot. I loved playing for Brooklyn, but it’s just so much…”
Steve Nash: “Stuff happened.”
KD: “…Around us. Around the guys that were committed to the situation. It felt like we were committed but everybody else wasn’t. It was just weird.”
Discussion
a few years later
KD: “Me and Bud were on the same page. Booker and Beal? I don’t know. It was a lot going on man”
Bud: Blank stare
Beal did miss like 30 games. They also just didn’t have the team around them that they needed. It was too much, too expensive, with no real way to improve.
Kyrie went fucking crazy for a stretch there and KD clearly was on board with it and like whatever but it clearly irritated Harden enough to want out.
KD can try to say he wasn't a part of the problem but I'm pretty sure I remember him defending Kyrie and trying to brush it off instead of trying to take any kind of accountability and reign shit in when it was clearly fucking the team.
KD had enough sway to get Atkinson fired, DeAndre signed, and Allen to relegated to the bench. If KD wanted Kyrie traded he certainly could have put pressure on the team, or Kyrie to get the shot like everyone else.
Everything KD publicly did and said then, and that he continues to say now, makes it seem like he didn’t want to do anything about the Kyrie situation. I’m not a huge Harden fan, but him wanting out of Brooklyn makes a ton of sense.
Because it became more about making friends then playing ball...
KD didn't want to burn bridges attacking Kyrie on what Kyrie felt was life/death...
And it makes sense that Harden, being the only one of the three without a ring, would be the most frustrated.
Especially since Harden was the guy before that. He didn’t have a Curry or Bron to help him in Houston.
Also Kyrie had zero value at the time anyway. The Mavs got him for essentially nothing compared to what his normal price would’ve been.
I don't think Nets Kyrie had zero value. He was hurt by playing in NYC due to the mandate, but would have been fine anywhere else. They likely wouldn't get equal value, given the uncertainty around COVID and Kyrie's other dumbass comments, but even a more consistent/vaccinated guard who gave them 75% of Kyrie's abilities would have made them a better team, and lessened all the drama around them.
I think you're downplaying how bad it was at the time. Kyrie was coming off of 3 straight headcase incidents from the Cavs, to Boston, to the Nets. The Kyrie trade was a big risk for Dallas at the time and it was miracle that it worked out and he's been extremely uncontroversial throughout
It was also right after he posted holocaust denial videos right? There was a ton going against him at that moment.
Yeah that was going one as well. And people somehow still blamed Harden wanting to get out of that situation
KD should have stayed with the only sane PG he’s ever known: Curry
1000%
But guess what, he's a character too so he decided he needed to do it in his own. He chose friends over winning
He is the mastermind behind almost all of the situations he’s been in and he always absolves blame. He just said that he was the reason that the suns traded for Beal.
He claims that he “only cares about hooping” but that’s nonsense. He hamstrings these orgs into signing his friends at the detriment of the team and when it blows up, he bails out.
Him taking Kyries side wasnt in the best interest of hooping. Him getting Kenny fired was not in the best interest of hooping. Him demanding that Jordan starts over Jarrett Allen was not in the best interest of hooping. He doesn’t want to win, he wants to win with his people. He’s a baby
We talk a lot about LeGM but not enough about KeGM
Best thing LeGM had going for him, is LeBron James. KD is not as well rounded so KeGM ain't going to work
He hamstrings these orgs into signing his friends at the detriment of the team and when it blows up, he bails out.
Couple years ago the Suns basically added KD's practice partners to the roster and that failed horribly.
Blazers put Dame's cousin on a 2 way contract for two years before he got relegated to playing in Latvia or some shit, so this isn't exactly uncommon
I'm beginning to see Draymonds point of view better when he called him out for being a bitch.
There is a reason Golden State has put up with Draymond's bs for this entire time. He's not often wrong in his points, he's just a massive asshole. He has also done way more "good" for the franchise than bad.
Everyone knew KD was leaving, and it wasn't because of Draymond. It's because as long as Curry was there KD was not going to get the level of preferential treatment and worshipping he wanted.
Green is a fucking asshole, but a much wiser / talented one.
Let's not get crazy here. This is the guy still taking shots at KAT's mental when he was going to a family friend's funeral. He's a fucking a asshole on and off the court and much worse than KD ever was
Oh i agree. In sports, you can be a big asshole and still be successful. He's still an overall asshole human being. nothing gets around that.
He’s a moron with a platform and people think he’s smart. It’s like saying, my bicycle is faster than your car. Makes no sense
If he only cared about hooping he would have never left the Warriors.
or stayed with OKC or Brooklyn or. Suns
KD basically wanted to be the bus driver without having to drive the bus
They can’t even mention Kyrie right now. That’s a big part of the problem. Mention Harden without mentioning the shit show that was Kyrie….
I dont think he was on board with Kyrie not getting the jab. Durant clearly got it, and tried to play it off as "i want him to but he has to make his own decisions" when asked about it publicly.
It just wasn't a huge deal breaker for him if his friend was being stupid. Although honestly it probably should have been.
Kyrie Irving is playing the role of Voldemort for this entire episode.
To be fair, he sort of ran several Superstars out of the various buildings he worked in.
And everybody there knows it's going to be some bullshit if they say his name
Harden ended his prime early because he was too committed
Yup, never quite the same after that hamstring injury
😢😢😢 at least we still got old man point guard Harden going strong
Man it fucking blows he should've destroyed the 3pt record helping create a legacy as a scorer for decades to come. I hope his foul baiting doesn't become the entire narrative about him in the future, but honestly 20-5-9 isn't bad.
I wouldn't blame him for sitting out. The fact he played on a bum hamstring said a lot
KD and blaming other people, name a more iconic duo.
KD and quitting on teams, 3 teams where he made a trade request and 1 FA betrayal?
Lmao
Nash: “KD, its your fault that I couldnt coach like I wanted, and thats why we failed”
KD: “Agreed, its crazy how Kyrie and Harden and Simmons just dragged us down like that”
The full conversation gives more context, but even at the time it was known that Nash's assistants largely ran both the offense and the defense. He didn't have free reign to implement his own stuff.
I have been arguing this point into the void with nets fans for months.
I think that Steve Nash is a better coach than his Nets tenure indicates. Mostly because he got handed a really rough hand to try to get a chip out of. And had very little control over what actually ended up happening.
As he says in this very interview.
To be fair though, many Nets fans have not known basic common sense since they were still in New Jersey so
I'd much rather have Nash than Billups in PDX
But I've seen Billups coach for like 4 years now so I'm not exactly unbiased
He was the head couch. How could he not have free rein?
I’m not particularly informed on the drama there beyond what we all saw, but it surprises me that an NBA head coach is powerless to run the schemes how he sees fit.
He was a rookie coach and outside his few own hires he was surrounded by a lot of the previous Nets hires including Vaughn. I’m guessing Nash’s camp didn’t play well with the other guys. D’Antoni (Nash hire) left after just 1 season and it didn’t seem like he had issues with Nash. If Nash was outnumbered it’s easy to make him look like a scapegoat while holding him back. But again just all my speculation and I doubt anyone of substance will actually reveal the whole story.
KD got the coach before Nash fired. It’s very easy to see Nash (who was a rookie head coach) deferring to KD and what he wanted
Nash never said close to that on this podcast though? Like not even remotely
He said this to KD: Steve Nash: “I didn’t get to coach as much as I wanted to.”
I think thats implying something
He goes on to say what he means and it’s not about KD they’re basically in agreement.
I think you’re implying something.
Smartest thunder fan jesus
Bro Nash also said “stuff happened” and KD said “around us”. Nash clearly doesnt feel the same way KD does
Several years later Durant still refuse to blame himself and Irving for the situation and would rather scapegoat everyone else.
but KD scored 35.4ppg in the 2021 ECSF. Clearly an absolute carry job
I mean, KD's answer is kinda vague but I don't think he's lying. KD was balling, I don't know what sort of accountability is expected of him. People seem to think KD can talk Kyrie out of non-basketball issues, but that's on Kyrie. Nash was dealt with very odd situations, so there was a lack of consistency. Lack of consistency means no direction, which probably led to conflict between KD and Nash. What KD said here is pretty consistent with the narrative.
KD is never that bus driver. Reigning Kyrie inline is some bus driver duties. He's just the best 1A option there ever was for 15 years. He needs everything set up properly and he goes in to hoop his ass off. Goes to 73-9 GSW and gets 2 fvmps. Hell if he joined the Cavs back then he probably get 3-4 fvmps.
lebron 4 peats, doesn't get the FMVP's but does something MJ didn't, cursed ass timeline beyond just the mere premise of someone 4peat-ing again
KD Klove Lebron kyrie. If the salary cap fits they would win even with one of them (non-lebron) injured.
I wonder if he tried. Just a "Yo Kyrie wtf just get the vaccine and play you idiot we're trying to win a chip"
People were cutting off their families off over the vaccine and you think Kyrie, of all people, was going to be persuaded by a possible ring? Something he already had?
Yeah I feel like people are missing out on the fact that Kyrie was a conspiracy theorist and KD pushing the issue wasn’t going to change anything. Yes they are friends but KD isn’t his dad or something. Beyond being like “are you absolutely sure you don’t want to play for this super team?” There was nothing else he could do. I’m sure Kyrie was aware they needed him.
Yeah, like Kyrie believes the vaccine was bad for your health ( agree or disagree whatever). He’s not going to suddenly get it anyways because his friend wants to play basketball.
What the fuck kind of logic is that.
Kyrie: the vaccines killing people Kd: just get it and we can play basketball together
On top of all that, Mayor Adam’s dumbass rule where Kyrie couldn’t play because he wasn’t vaccinated, but players from other teams who weren’t vaccinated could play in Brooklyn against the Nets was dumb as fuck. I’m a lifelong Nets fan and those 1.5 seasons were so frustrating
I mean, he IS a dumbass
I highly doubt KD could have convinced Kyrie to do anything, dude was really off the rails during that time for some reason.
Have you ever tried to have a logical discussion with someone wearing a tin foil hat?
This isn't to say that some conspiracies aren't valid, but Kyrie was wildin the fuck out... How do you keep all the energy intact when that's what you're dealing with, a perennial Superstar who refuses to do the basics for the game he gets paid millions of dollars to play, because he doesn't believe in public health emergencies...???
Talking to conspiracy theorists can sometimes be like talking to a wall. Kevin probably just wanted to focus on hooping
I feel like theres revisionist history given that hes kinda been the whipping boy for a bit.
"I told him how important he is, how much i want him to play every game. But im not about to force somebody to get a vaccine like thats not my thing. So he can play basketball? Nah im not about to do that.
We've had conversations about wanting him to be a part of the team and conversations about him being here full time, but thats on his tome. Whatever decision he wants to make hes gonna make. Its on us to be professionals no matter what, and do our jobs."
Its clear that he wanted him to take it, but understood that Kyrie is going to do what hes gonna do. He doesnt view it as a deal breaker within their friendship though.
Yeah cuz he played phenomenally and the team was imploding????
Obviously kyrie fucked up but what was Durant supposed to do that he didn't
Yall aren't serious
Obviously kyrie fucked up but was Durant supposed to do that he didn't
The one thing he has consistently failed to do throughout his career: be a leader.
Kyrie was willing to miss out on millions, and the playoffs over this. I dont think KD, or anyone talking to him was going to make him magically switch up.
Youd only have this dogshit opinion if you've never had to actually interact with someone that have firm beliefs like this. Antivaxxers dont magically switch up because a friend told them to, those fuckers will literally watch their own children die and keep at it.
Antivaxxers dont magically switch up because a friend told them to, those fuckers will literally watch their own children die
People may think you're being rhetorical here, but I know of one case where this actually happened. Guy was vocally anti-vax, argued there was no need for kids to get it because COVID didn't hurt kids, then his teenage son got it and died about a week later. Dude should be in prison for negligent child abuse/homicide.
I can literally link articles throughout the years. Just this February a 6 year old died of the measles, and in response the parents said they would still insist to not do the shots, and that they dont think its as bad as the media made it out to be.
It's true
Ah gotcha... no actual real basketball thing to say so we're just gonna make up stuff in our heads about his personality
This is some fm radio talk show type shit lmao
outside of giving him the shot himself what else was he supposed to do? lol if someone is convinced enough to give up however much money to not get it, then a teammate, leader or not is not gonna change that.
Reddit thinks KD is Kyries father for some reason. Dude is a grown ass man, not sure what KD was supposed to do in regard to him getting vaccinated.
Half this sub is just dollar store skip bayless. There was literally nothing else KD could have done in 21’ & he still gets blame for it. People just love to hate him ever since GS
So you wanted him to tell another grown man to get a vaccine and not to post about what ever documentary he was watching
I mean KD was a toe nail away from taking a hobbled team to the finals which changes the convo completely. Not saying hes not bullshitting a little, but there is alot of behind the scenes context missing that may validate what he is saying.
I would have been interesting if they did dig into rumors of KD wanting Nash gone, but we dont have a pod for that yet. This is too much of a image building /marketing pod at the moment.
What did Durant do in Brooklyn? You and all of Reddit know Kyrie fucked it.
You’re just parroting the Reddit narrative that KD is a team destroyer. Might be true of the Suns, but the only thing KD could have done differently in Brooklyn was to somehow convince Kyrie to get the vax.
I think we're eager to blame Kevin Durant for something that legitimately might not actually be his fault.
Didn't he literally score 35 a game through the semifinals? Like, even considering all those problems, they were right fucking there - either teen making it out of the East that year would absolutely have won a championship.
And yet somehow, we don't talk about Kyrie Irving not taking proper accountability. (Something he's had trouble doing for years) We don't talk about Kyrie Irving being a distraction to the team with his antics. We don't talk about how that hurt their championship chances.
We don't talk about the actual rogue on the team. We just blame the people who still showed up.
Make it make sense?
If he didn’t have his foot on the line, we’d be saying some different shit right about now.
What blame does KD have? He was keeping the team afloat.
I mean blame is on kyrie as well, how much blame tho? That I’m not sure but not taking the vaccine (for the sake of being “committed”) did ruin morale and showcased his commitment to playing basketball.
I mean blame is on kyrie as well, how much blame tho?
I personally think most of the blame is on Kyrie for things falling apart. I think Kyrie not playing + KD missing a lot of games put WAY more burden on a Harden that should have probably been resting/recovering more.
Obviously KD can't control his own injuries so I'm not going to fault him, but Kyrie 100% had control over that situation and he chose to hold out.
Kyrie harden dinwiddie all got hurt when only 1 of them was needed to win vs bucks. Then covid vax made harden the only guy playing. Thats all that happened lol. It ain't deeper than that
Talk is cheap.
KD is a professional narrative re-writer.
Which is fine, he's only human. Most of us lie to ourselves to cope with all sorts of mundane shit.
I swear I feel like yall just forgot what happened in Brooklyn, KD balled out
Who said that he didn't?
The narrative being re-written is that KD didn't try to get Steve Nash fired. Now it's all buddy buddy "everyone else was the problem"
I agree with you 100%
Dude is trying to tell us how it went down
He chose to follow Kyrie of all people, who refused to get the shot and tanked their chances, and also said they didn't need a coach lmao
While talking to the very coach you disrespected and got fired
He balled out, for sure. He also got Atkinson fired, Nash hired, Caris and Jarrett shipped out, Harden shipped in for all of our future picks and - what is the worst part - he was enabling Kyrie to do his dumbass shit: talking that they don't need coaching, taking weeks off, and not playing because he didn't want to vaccinate. KD enabled this buffoonery all the way, which - along with injuries - was the reason the whole Big 3 collapsed so quickly.
Don't get me wrong - I love KD as a baller. He's an all-timer and I have never seen him quit on the basketball court. He's just not good at being a leader and decision maker outside of the court.
NBA really is a soap opera for men lol.
KD is never beating the Snake allegations lol
Every situation he’s been in that hasn’t worked out never seems to be his fault…. Ever lmao
KD is a fucking bullshit artist lol
These guys couldn’t stay healthy, there’s some crazy stat how Harden, Kyrie and KD only played some small number of game together.
KD is one of the greatest players of my lifetime and he’s such a clown lol.
KD is such a clown it's ridiculous
Hes such a little bitch
KD we’ve watched your whole career.
Kyrie "He Who Must Not Be Named" Irving
Kyrie wasn’t committed lol to be frank.
Harden played on one leg in the playoffs with a worse hamstring injury than Curry sat out with against the Twolves to try to help KD when Giannis injured Kyrie by stepping under him, I don’t think he was taking a shot at Harden outside of the “forcing trades” comment, playing hurt is about the most committed you can get
God I hate KD. What a tool.
KD being a snake whats new?
Cant wait for the Rockets to implode to hear what KD apologists would come up with next.
After the chip sure
Lmao
Hahahaha the good old blame everyone else. Goddamn, this guy sucks so bad.
KD is a loser.
Yeah, when Harden was out there playing on one hamstring, he clearly wasn’t committed.
He's talking about Kyrie Irving. This isn't something that is necessarily difficult to figure out
People want to elevate this above other former/current players’ podcasts, but frankly in this iteration it is no better than any of the others, just has a lot more prestige attached to it.
I am extremely bias, but I just don’t believe a thing KD says about anything.
KD is most delusional great player of all time. He wasted his career and still talks about it like it was circumstances beyond his control
KD is a habitual blame placer
The best thing about those Nets lmao.
KD putted all his eggs in the Kyrie basket and got burned
Ah yes Kevin Durant known best for his unwavering commitment and loyalty
is crazy how it's always someone elses fault, weird how that happens hey KD?
As an outsider looking in, KD has never seemed like a leader like LeBron was during his championship runs. LeBron eventually had the presence where everyone fell in line. Guys like Kyrie, JR Smith, Dwight, Kuzma...guys seen as immature but LeBron got them to focus when it mattered.
KD’s not a leader. He’s the kind of guy that turns up and get his 30 ppg on good percentages no matter what.
This is a fucking incredible interview. Durant's answer to Nash on what lead him to loving basketball was great. Along the lines of "It's enlightening to see what my body can do, I love it and honestly it's probably the only thing thats been keeping me going (in basketball)"
Everytime KD talks these days I lose more and more respect for him.
Because he obviously doesn't respect us and our intelligence, that entire episode was filled with bold faced lies.
We watched Kenny Atkinson get fired because they were non serious about basketball and wanted there friend to get pt over playing the guy who was actively helping them win games.
We saw Kyrie get on the pod and say that nash was brought in to litterally not be a coach and just let them ball.
I genuinely don't know if KD actually believes any of this of if he's just trying to get out in front of stuff ahead of time.
Because when he retires his legacy will be that of a quiter, a guy who needed a super team to win anything and in every other situation is a locker room cancer who actively kills the team he's on.
KD think he the bus driver but he in the back seat of the short bus
Ayo
I refuse to believe that Nash is a bad coach. It was just a bad situation that was looking for a scapegoat
Leadership from players to coach to gm to owner was 0.
JFC all KD needs to say is we didn’t step up to the plate and as a team leader that’s on me. He would engender so much more love. But nope it’s everyone else that’s the problem.
Honestly… idk how you coach superstars
Like I feel KD is a superstar but he’s not good at leading others. Which is ok but he acts like he’s the dude
Road to hell is paved with good intentions
KD is a hell of a player, but has he always been delusional?
You can't blame the bus rider when someone else drives the bus off a cliff
“…everything else around us was going to shit. Not in a bad way…” Then proceeds to talk shit around them in a bad way.
😐
didn't this video already get posted to the sub
Snake in the grass
Bro😭
Didn't get the full Nash load that season
"I don't think we even need a coach"
That was you, wasn't it, Wayne...
Oh my god I hate it when KD talks about why he didn’t succeed like dude you can’t yap your way to legacy. You sold your shot at having a good legacy to get rings with the warriors. You’re never getting that back.
Sure Kevin. It's always the others. You did nothing wrong 🙄
KD is the ultimate locker room culture cancer personified but he’s always the best player so you have to sacrifice other dudes for him.
I think if you replaced Nash on this podcast with Harden he would have said the same thing about him and James being the only ones committed
Harden was committed until Mr flat earth lied all summer about getting the vaccine at training camp
Remember him and Dray effectively saying it was everyone else's fault they fell out because they kept trying to get them to talk.
I love KD the player but he really doesn't help himself
He just wanted to hoop, not talk.
Probably, and its pretty insulting for him to not talk about Harden considering Harden fucked up 2 seasons of his prime playing on a destroyed hamstring. He was committed to ball, he just wasn't willing to deal with Kyrie who wasn't.
they literally talked about harden a minute after this?
You expect r/NBA to watch the full video and have full context before commenting? Nahh we are here for bad takes and clickbait
Hahaha
For real, they said james shouldn’t have been playing (in a respectful way)
Exactly, Harden requested a trade because Kyrie was borderline schizophrenic
You could argue he was too committed to winning lol. He didn't wanna waste a couple years of the end of his prime relying on a dude he couldn't rely on. So he wanted a trade to somewhere where he thought he had a better chance at winning.
Patience comes very seldomly when you're staring down the end of your prime. If Harden was 25 he would've been more willing to see it out I bet. I'm sure KD can understand that too since he also asked out probably for that exact reason, not wanting to waste the end of his prime or while he was still great at least
I remember in the post game press conference after an away game of course, Harden said he was going to personally give Kyrie the shot himself. Kyrie had just balled but couldn’t play the next game because it was a home game.
The nets get used as a failed superteam because of all these issues but they were clearly the best team healthy. They would have rolled to the title so easily almost any year if all 3 were healthy, it wasn’t a failed superteam like the suns which just sucked and was built terribly
They only played 16 games together and were 13-3 in them
8-2 regular season and 5-1 in playoffs
Small sample size, but really does make you ask what if
Oden/Roy/Aldridge regen
Sad blazer noises
The whole state of Oregon felt this one
Except two of them were MVP candidates and all three were all NBA players.
And NONE WAS AVERAGING 4 FOULS PER GAME IN 21 MPG
Way too small smaller size to say they would roll people. All contenders have sample sizes like that were they dominate teams. Simply cant extrapolate that.
I didn’t ever say they were going to roll people. Simply that it’s a huge what if. They just played absolutely beautiful ball when they did
Ah, the guy above you did. Big question mark though, agreed.
Admittedly small sample size but the eye test tho. They were so clearly head and shoulders the best offense in the NBA those 16 games.
Sure, but you are falling for exactly what I said happens. You can take a 16 game sample size of pretty much all elite teams during a season and think they are the best team in the league. 16 games is truly just so few games.
Nets didn't even need all three healthy, KD+a crippled Harden almost got it done against the bucks lol. That team at full power is second only to the KD Warriors in strength over the past 10 years.
They probably could’ve made it if they literally had any other teammate instead of Joe Harris.
or if Dinwiddie wasn't out
Saint Joe
I was about to say the Heat…. Dear lord
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The slander of my 17-18 Rockets…
Absolutely untrue. The 2 games they won were with kyrie in and harden out. They only won 1 game with kyrie out. That is not almost getting the job done without kyrie
They went to OT in game 7 and the only reason they lost is because KD was gassed (and his feet were too big) and Joe Harris couldn’t hit a single thing. That’s pretty damn close.
That’s what Kyrie delivers unfortunately. Between Covid and being an Anti-Semite in his BKN tenure, he always had to make the difficult choice to be an asshole
What he say fuck me for?
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I didn’t know that KD and Book and a bunch of role players were considered a superteam now…
Should’ve would’ve could’ve. A story as old as time
He hasn't been the same since then. Last season was probably his best performance since then but during his prime he could attack the paint at will and even dunk on drives
It was Kyrie
Right, like when he was on Draymond’s podcast KD said that the Warriors should have let the players figure it out without butting in, but then later said the opposite
kd is mentally a blonde vallay woman
Yup, KD avoids blame whenever he can. While trying to act like he was the key reason the Warriors won those two chips with him. Really knows how to glaze himself!
I think you could replace Nash with anyone and he'd say a version of the same thing. It's really just him saying it's not my fault. He wasn't the biggest issue, but Durant contributed to the culture of those teams.
Snake is a snake and he ain’t a leader.
I don’t think he’s a snake but I do agree he’s not a leader or a culture setter. Doesn’t make him a bad dude, but you’re also likely not winning it all if he’s your culture
Your teams best player doesn’t have to be your culture setter. Especially if you’re bringing a big time player into your organization rather than developing them, you better have an established culture already.
Totally agree. I think Houston is a good fit for Durant for this reason. But I also think if your best player is a leader, it makes team building much easier.
I agree with you there. The nets got KD for virtually free tho. That makes team building awfully easy
Durant always kind of agrees with the guy in front of him. Honestly that was kind of the problem with him, he went along with a lot of Kyrie’s bullshit and sat there and agreed with Kyrie when he said that they didn’t need a coach.
He would. KD doesn't have the balls to take accountability of oneself, including calling out Kyrie ever for all his bullshit back then.
except that time it might be the truth
man I would love to see harden go on one of these and actually talk ball
If you replaced KD with Harden it probably would’ve been the same thing said too