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South Sudan says eight deportees from the US are under government care
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Deportees include two people from Myanmar, two from Cuba, and one each from Vietnam, Laos and Mexico
How tf you gunna send people from Cuba and Mexico to Africa for detention. Their countries are like 30 minutes away from the states.
Cruelty is the point.
The main feature, you could say.
It’s a waaarning! Don’t come to the U.S. illegally or your basic rights will be violated and maybe we’ll fucking kill you through malnourishment and environment stress!
On second thought, forget the “illegally”!
I was about to say....within the first month or two they scooped up several people here visiting on legal visas an their excuse was "you didn't book a hotel".
or "you don't have enough clothes"
And "you've got too many clothes"
To be fair, Canada would refuse entry for all of that.
Too much money
Not enough money
Too many credit cards
Too few credit cards
Didn’t book lodging
DID book lodging, but “why there?”
And of course,
- Hot Topic studded belt
Good, too many Americans illegally immigrate here and think the world should revolve around them.
If you aren’t, Native American, you’re a dumb ass is here illegally too
I'm pretty sure it's money, and the cruelty is just an accepted consequence
It is not money. It costs hundreds of millions to deporting these people. We are not even tanking about economic damage. The point is cruelty.
It’s costing taxpayers hundreds of millions, the contractors are making bank and whoever they bribed are making bank
I would like to know the bribes the orange man got to send them to Sudan and El Salvador
Both at once
Just like my parents
No. It’s pure stupidity. Do you think Kristi Noem can read a map?
They are skirting US and international laws concerning things such as non-refoulement. While also being as cruel as possible to those they are deporting.
The US has been doing this for decades. The term used for terrorist detainees (quite a few of them were innocent) is extraordinary rendition, though they were usually apprehended or kidnapped when abroad, sometimes with the assistance of the host country, where they would be tortured at CIA black sites.
And even then... the US govt has to prove that there's a concern of safety for the individual if they are deported back to their home country and the 3rd party destination is not putting that deportee at any risk with their life.
It makes Stephen Miller's little dick feel good.
Because the politicians lining their and their wealthy corporate owners pockets make more from a tax-payer funded trip to sudan than to mexico.
Seems very inefficient and a waste of tax dollars.
So exactly how Republicans operate as standard.
I remember reading their home countries won't take them back and these third countries I assume benefit financially in some way from taking these people. God knows what will become of them though. Do they get due process before being sent there or is it just like yep we think you did something so off to Sudan you go for no official reason.
Thats the "claim", but never reviewed as part of due process.
Most of these people aren't criminals, so there is no reason their home countries wouldn't take them back.
I wouldn't trust anything you heard, because this admin will make up whatever they think gets them off the hook in the moment the question is asked.
That isn't true of most of the detainees being held. They aren't even being given due process, where that would actually come to light were it a factor. Due process which they are all very much entitled to by the Constitution, as an aside.
In the case of the torture prison in El Salvador, El Salvador is accepting detainees because they're being paid directly by this administration to do so. The government of El Salvador has clarified that those detainees being held there are still existing under United States jurisdiction despite having been "deported." I'm not sure about South Sudan, but in the case of those being sent to El Salvador they aren't actually being deported. They're just being extrajudicially and indefinitely imprisoned on foreign soil by the US, with no way to contact their families or their lawyers once inside.
ICE thugs can’t tell the difference between non-white people and countries.
To send a message
Laos and Vietnam would not accept their people, I don't know about the others, and the Mexican? people are deported to Mexico all the time.
Bruh wtf
So they weren’t deported, they were trafficked. If they were deported they’d be in Myanmar, Cuba, Vietnam, Laos, and Mexico; not South Sudan.
whats the charges
A succulent Chinese meal
Get your hands off my penis!
Get your hands off my penis!
The guy from Vietnam is a convicted murderer
Is he? Or is the administration claiming he is. There's a large difference between what the administration says and the what's real.
Thanks for the verification. Can't trust anything coming out of the administration. To many lies stacked on top of one another.
Where is the 8th person from
South Sudan, the country in question.
Oh wow, 1 in 8 actually makes sense🤦🏻♂️
That’s 7 people
The 8th was from South Sudan, the only one actually deported to his own country.
Wow, that’s impressive for ICE officials. They could’ve shipped him off to El Salvador or Antarctica.
South Sudan
Travel Advisory
March 8, 2025
South Sudan - Level 4: Do Not Travel
Updated to reflect ordered departure of non-emergency U.S. government personnel due to continued security threats in South Sudan.
Do not travel to South Sudan due to crime, kidnapping, and armed conflict.
Country Summary: Due to the risks in the country, on March 08, 2025, the Department of State ordered the departure of non-emergency U.S. government employees from South Sudan.
Armed conflict is ongoing and includes fighting between various political and ethnic groups. Weapons are readily available to the population. In addition, cattle raids occur throughout the country and often lead to violence.
Violent crime, such as carjackings, shootings, ambushes, assaults, robberies, and kidnappings are common throughout South Sudan, including Juba. Foreign nationals have been the victims of rape, sexual assault, armed robberies, and other violent crimes.
Reporting in South Sudan without the proper documentation from the South Sudanese Media Authority is considered illegal, and any journalistic work there is very dangerous. Journalists regularly report being harassed in South Sudan, and many have been killed while covering the conflict.
The U.S. government has limited ability to provide emergency consular services to U.S. citizens in South Sudan. U.S. government personnel working in South Sudan are under a strict curfew. They must use armored vehicles for nearly all movements, and official travel outside Juba is limited to a small area in the immediate vicinity of the Embassy and during daylight hours only. The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) has issued a Notice to Airmen (NOTAM) and/or a Special Federal Aviation Regulation (SFAR). This is due to risks to civil aviation operating within or in the vicinity of South Sudan. For more information U.S. citizens should consult the Federal Aviation Administration’s Prohibitions, Restrictions and Notices. Read the country information page for additional information on travel to South Sudan.
If you decide to travel to South Sudan:
Exercise extreme care in all parts of the country, including Juba. Travel outside of Juba with a minimum of two vehicles along with appropriate recovery and medical equipment in case of mechanical failure or other emergency. Avoid travel along border areas. Avoid demonstrations and crowds. Be aware that photography in public is strictly controlled, and you are required to obtain authorization from the Ministry of Information before taking any photographs or video in public – including while inside a vehicle. Check local media for breaking news. Be prepared to adjust your plans. We highly recommend that you buy insurance before you travel. Check with your travel insurance provider about evacuation assistance, medical insurance, and trip cancellation coverage. Enroll in the Smart Traveler Enrollment Program (STEP) to receive messages and Alerts from the U.S. Embassy and make it easier to locate you in an emergency. Review your personal security plan and visit our page on travel to high risk areas. Draft a will and designate appropriate insurance beneficiaries and/or power of attorney. Discuss a plan with loved ones regarding care/custody of children, pets, property, belongings, non-liquid assets (collections, artwork, etc.), funeral wishes, etc. Share important documents, login information, and points of contact with loved ones. This is so that they can manage your affairs if you are unable to return as planned to the United States. Review this list of documents to prepare for your trip Establish your own personal security plan in coordination with your employer or host organization, or consider consulting with a professional security organization. Your plan should include sheltering in place, maintaining outside communication, and a personal evacuation plan via commercial means. Develop a communication plan with family or your employer or host organization (if you are traveling on business). This is so that they can monitor your safety and location as you travel through high-risk areas. Specify how you'll confirm you're safe (text, calls, etc.), how often, and who you'll contact first to share the information. Choose one family member to serve as the point of contact. They will communicate with kidnappers/hostage-takers, media, U.S. and host country government agencies, and members of Congress if you are kidnapped or taken hostage. Establish a proof of life protocol with your loved ones. This is so that if you are taken hostage, your loved ones can know specific questions (and answers) to ask the hostage-takers to be sure that you are alive (and to rule out a hoax). Leave DNA samples with your medical provider in case it is necessary for your family to access them. Erase any sensitive photos, comments, or other materials from your social media pages, cameras, laptops, and other electronic devices that could be considered controversial or provocative by local groups. Leave your expensive/sentimental belongings behind. Review the Country Security Report for South Sudan. U.S. citizens who travel abroad should always have a contingency plan for emergency situations. Review the Traveler’s Checklist.
- Visit the CDC page for the latest Travel Health Information related to your travel.
So like… are we selling slaves to other countries or something?
I’ve been to South Sudan. It is truly one of the poorest and most undeveloped baby nations of the world today.
To send anyone not from that country there is sheer sadism.
And Sudan is in a humanitarian crisis currently due to war and famine.
So what are we going to g to do about this?
They weren't deported... they were trafficked. If they were deported they would have been sent to their country of origin.
This comment cannot be upvoted highly enough, and it cannot be understated that SCOTUS is allowing the US to be a human trafficking state. Utterly shameful.
Mark my words: It’s going to come out in a couple decades that this ‘deporting’ was tied to forced labor and sex trafficking rings
Yeah I also have been saying this loudly to anyone else listening. Especially considering the sex pest in office and the fact that he was tied to a sex trafficker already makes it seem like it’s way too obvious.
All those losers talking about “keeping kids safe” and “family dynamics” surely are quiet when it comes to this. Wish they meant it when they say “all lives matter”. if that were the case more people would be disgusted and not joking about feeding people to gators.
People keep saying this but all the definitions say deporting somebody is removing them from a country and doesn't really specify where they go. It's kinda fucked we're sending them somewhere random but they're still being deported unless there's a legal term specific to the US that's different from dictionary definition
I mean it’s like Pinochet 2.0
If they were deported they would be free to go in whatever country takes them. Being deported from the US is not a felony crime... there's zero reason these people should be incarcerated at their destinations.
I feel better already knowing they are in the safe, caring hands of the South Sudanese government...
I'm surprised South Sudan was transparent enough to say where the deportees are from. So many people are just going to disappear...
Safer than in the hands for the US government 🤷🏽♂️ Fuck all these governments
In the wise words of Rage Against the Machine:
"DESTROY ALL NATIONS"
Can we destroy all religions first?!?
I still worry for them. We have no idea where they are in South Sudan and I highly doubt South Sudan will deport them to their home country. They have to understand that these people were trafficked and have no relation to the fights happening the country.
Now even if South Sudan recognizes that these people want no trouble they’re not gonna wanna deport them. They’re going to kill them.
I absolutely agree. This whole situation is so absurd. I don’t understand how people can be so evil. I don’t understand how people can so avidly support such evil people. It’s all depressing af. The “flood the zone” approach dear felon rapist leader is running is working. Not sure we will ever recover from this regime
Depends on who's running the US government.
Sadly, I don’t think we will have another human administration. All future elections will most likely be rigged for dear leader felon rapist
Man are not immortal. This a cult leader and a cult. What happens when the cult leader dies?
Hey at least South Sudan has been trying really hard to build a democracy. I current have more faith in South Sudan’s democratic journey than the US. At least they’re trying their best
Did we just start the slave trade up again?
Yes, except we are paying them to take ‘em.
He really is the worst businessman
It never ended. Just rebranded itself. The 13th amendment allowing for the use of slavery as punishment for a crime and for-profit prisons profiting of this has led to us having 1/4 of ALL incarcerated people in the world.
Hell no. Who in their right mind thinks sending people back to a war zone like South Sudan is okay? Even with my kids' Legos, I could build a better plan than this!
Back? They’re not from there in the first place!
Maybe other countries should start imposing huge tariffs on the U.S. when they receive deportees that are not their citizens. This is just so heartbreaking and maddening.
The US is already paying these countries to take these people. The countries accepting these immigrants are complicit in this crime against humanity.
People are not things that can be put away in a third world countries because it doesn’t please his majesty. This is outrageous. If any country other than U.S. was doing this, U.S. would have invaded them by now to “free them”.
Both the UK and Denmark has plans to send asylum seekers to Rwanda
*had, in the case of the UK. One of the first things the new government did when it got in was bin that off.
The US never invaded anyone to "free them". They do it for money and resources, using "freedom" as propaganda to gather public support
Hot take, but maybe we shouldn’t deport people to countries with level 4 travel advisories.
If it’s not safe for our own citizens, how would it be safe for them?
Define government care
They’ll never get home. I hate this orange government.
Imagine being the guy from Mexico who came here illegally, knowing all his buddies did and just got sent home. Not this guy, straight to South Sudan💀I wish the article said more about what happens when non citizens get to Sudan. Seems grey about if they are being held or getting supervised release.
if you are a US citizen, like myself, unless you are an extremely wealthy white, conservative, Christian male, this should terrify you as this is your ultimate fate too.
Great! South Sudan has nothing else to worry about right now!
South Sudan is only accepting the best of them
Now we have no right to blame other countries of Human Right violations.
Awww, they used the word "care", I guess everything is ok then.
I don’t normally post on US political things, as I’m not from the US, I know this Subreddit leans to the left, so genuine question:
From reading the article, some of these people were convicted of murder, completed their sentence and now are being deported, as they are illegal in the US.
I’m really confused as to why most of you in the comments don’t like that these people are being sent out of your country.
At least for me, if someone who is not legal in my country, and lets say, that persons murder a child, and is sent to prison, after the time is done, I would not want that illegal person still being in my country, and I could care less if that person were to be sent anywhere in the world other than my country.
So why would you guys want to keep an illegal convicted murderer in your country? Even if their country of origin does not want them back?
There has to be a moment where you say, "that Illegal migrant, has no reason to be in our country, get him out"
You guys would be ok with that hypothetical murderer (with completed sentence and illegal in your country) living right next to you in your neighborhood? How about right next to you in an apartment building, with your apartment door facing his?
Make me understand what is going on here.
Ps: I’m neither right or left as in my country things work differently and we have different issues. Also I'm from a country with many legal and illegal migrants in your country.
Humans should have rights, even criminals.
Why the fuck would you send a Mexican to south Sudan?
It's not like they arrive and they're free to go. They're being detained.
Because as you said, they already served their sentence and are now being detained in a foreign country they're not even from.
And yes, when someone finishes serving their sentence, they are released. That's how it works. What do you think happens with convicted criminal citizens who serve their sentences and are released? You could have some living in your neighborhood already as far as you know. What's the difference between a citizen who served their sentence and was released, and an immigrant who did the same?
Some of these people were convicted of murder.
The erosion of civil rights is the problem. No due process. Accusing all of a certain ethnic group of being criminals. It’s all part of the plan for project 2025 to install a dictator.
If they’ve committed a crime, they should be tried, sentenced, and deported back to their home countries once the sentence is completed.
If anyone feels that the sentence was too soft, they should take issue with the process that gave them a light sentence. Sending people to South Sudan without due process on the whim of one person in government should terrify every person living in the US, including law abiding US citizens.
It isn’t, for most, a desired to keep someone with that history in the country. The issues are focused on due process (the legal process to show proof someone is, in fact, here illegally) and “third party” deportations.
Without due process there is no mechanism by which I, an American citizen, could prove I am not illegal if I were taken into custody. If my neighbor has an issue with me and calls and claims I’m actually someone who overstayed a student or tourist visa decades ago and ICE comes to take me, due process (in court) is how I would show I actually am a citizen and not get deported. Without that no amount of me asking to show them my documents (that I likely do not have ready access to and not required to have on me as a citizen) will prevent that.
Likewise deportations to country of origin are justified if there is proof someone is here illegally. Sending someone to a “random” country that they are not a citizen of that is embroiled in conflict with no financial means or opportunity to get to their home country is not ethical. How would someone with no assets, who is essentially dropped in a war zone, find safe passage out? If they are from that country that is one thing - they are at least a citizen of that country. To put it another way, if you woke up with no phone, no money, no passport/ID, don’t speak the language, etc. in a country that likely doesn’t have an embassy for your country how would you get home? Someone posted that as an AskReddit with as a fun question about if you just found yourself in Pyongyang how would you get home. Similar situation although a bit different. I guess you could say “well that’s their problem” but deporting someone should send them back to their place or origin for a reason.
I also don't live in the US, but I'd guess it's because they perceive it as unethical to send someone who completed their prison sentence to be tortured in an African prison for the rest of their lives?
I don’t think most people have a problem with them being deported. But they should be sent to their countries of origin if they have one. Instead it’s a bunch of none Sudanese being sent to a war zone. America has to pay money to keep these people in the war zone.
It’d be simpler and easier to just send them to Mexico if they’re from Mexico. Send them to burma if they’re from burma. Send them to Vietnam if they’re from Vietnam.
So a government with a major refugee crisis of its own is now considered a safe haven for deportees? Huh.
Thats the most fuck up part of the emergency docket approval from the Supreme Court.
South Sudan is currently an internationally recognized refugee country.
And the state department? Says its a level 4 travel restricted nation. Literally the highest rating you can give a nation.
South Sudan Travel Advisory https://share.google/W82ffnmjfqHpBF1Sx
Its disgusting that the Supreme Court ignored the state departments OWN travel advisory in this ruling! So its completely safe to traffick non-citizens but its completely unsafe for citizens and they need to leave the country immediately?
the supreme court is stacked with people positioned to benefit from convict leasing
once again a good opportunity to say fuck Mitch McConnell
Holy shit, reading through the safe travel steps and seeing step 9 of 25 being “draft a will” with later steps including “discuss funeral wishes with your family,” “leave a DNA sample with your family doctor,” and “prearrange what questions your family will ask kidnappers to prove you’re alive” is surreal. How the fuck do they justify sending *anyone there?