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Am I crazy for thinking that we shouldn't still need this in 2025?
Why won't mobo makers include 1 dual input for both headphones and microphones if there are already like 9 3.5mm inputs on the back of most of them anyway
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At least motherboard makers didn't ditch audio jacks to lure you into buying a grossly overpriced bluetooth headset
Wanna hear something funny ?
I once bought a prebuilt computer and used it with wifi internet and blutooth headphones for about 4 months before I realized I left the antenna for the wireless card in the box.
I thought I had shitty WiFi and cheap headphones...
It also took me around 5 months to realize I had to manually set the refresh rate of my monitor to maximum. Should've seen my face when I went from 60hz to 165hz.
I swear I am a functioning adult.
I spent 3 years fucking with Bluetooth trying to get various PS4 controllers to pair with my PC before I realized I needed to plug in the antenna.
I was on wired internet, why the hell would I need a wifi antenna?!?
I did this with my first PC, I assumed I had a shitty Bluetooth module or smth... Nope, just plug the mf antenna in dummy
Y'all are actually blowing my mind right now ... I (30m) have got multiple controllers over the years (Scuf, Xbox, ps, random companies) just hoping the I could use 1 more than 5 feet away from my computer .. I never actually thought to plug the antenna in to help with my Bluetooth 🤦♂️bout to try it out today though!
Let us know
Exact same thing for me with Xbox controllers, ended up buying/returning 3 before I just switched back to wired before I realized I didn’t have the antenna attached.
You’re telling me that for the past 7 years I’ve had my computer, I could’ve had Bluetooth?!? I need to dig in my junk box and see if I kept that antenna…
Oh my god... there was supposed to be an antenna in the box...
A couple years ago, in a massive depressive funk after a breakup, I decided to get back into PC gaming with a prebuild from Microcenter. The salesman seemed like he wanted to get this one out the door quick, and it wasn't on the floor, I think it had been returned, but it checked all my boxes and met the sadness inflated budget. I had issues with the wifi but went wired fairly quickly anyway so I just never thought much of it. Now realizing that the antenna was probably lost by the original purchaser and then the rig was returned when the wifi didn't work.
Oh well!
You could technically jam anything metal in there that fits. My parents were anti-computer/internet, I built a PC and got internet for years with a homemade "Cantenna." Mine was two Bush's Baked Beans cans ducktaped together and about $15 of radio equipment (RIP radioshack). It connected to my pc through a cheap pci wifi card, I just unscrewed the stock antenna and plugged mine in with a bit of cable TV coax I found in the apartment's laundry room.
There was a mansion about half a mile up the street from me with unprotected wi-fi. They probably couldn't get signal from one end of the house to the other but I had full bars. Was able to play games and torrent without issue.
I have actually ditched 3.5mm earphones.
I use USB-C wired earphones now. So I can plug them to my powerbank. No, it doesn't do anything.
Ah so you like power metal
Or just get external USB connected DAC , appropriate for budget and wishes .
that under perform usually by half, compared to wired, with meme codecs & delay
I was really sad when I realized I couldn't use my good Beyerdynamic earbuds with my newest phone, had to buy cheap BT earbuds.
At least I can still use them with my second phone thats old enough to drink if it was human.
Literally went back to wired headphones recently, after years of Bluetooth. But now I can't charge my phone when I need it most, at night (falling asleep to ASMR) and during calls. Braindead design
They do make little splitters that have let you plug in headphones and a charger. Some are little y splitters and others a solid piece. I use it often with my Ally
I am wondering, I’ve been using usb audio for a while because I prefer the versatility and the durability. But should I use my motherboards dedicated aux and sound card? (B650 tomahawk wifi)
Better to have that and not need it than need it and not have it. Like a streaming setup with a separate stand mic & headphones, or ASMR setups.
If you're running a streaming setup with a standalone mic and headset, I hope to God you aren't using the mobo 3.5mm jacks for both of them.
Where would you even find a standalone streaming mic that uses 3.5mm?
Isn't that the exception rather than the rule? Would those edge-cases be any worse off if they had to use a splitter instead?
yes, a splitter is more likely to have interference or audio issues
I have never had a headset with a mic that had mic quality above dogshit, sound quality that was good or build quality that lasted a few years. "Gaming" headsets that come with mics are a joke.
Only exception I ever found was Steelseries.
Their gaming headsets have pretty decent audio quality for their price.
Separate headphones and mic still blow them out of the water overall.
Why can't we have both though? Have the two separate ones, and a third combined one
People post on here all the time about no video when they've plugged the lead in the wrong port, how many do you think there would be for no audio ?
Besides it's usually the case manufacturers that supply a combined audio port on the front panel.
There used to be a GREEN audio port for the GREEN cable and a PINK port for the PINK cable. I know people are idiots but it's not that hard.
Neither is plugging a cable into a video card but people still get that wrong 🤷.
Not all manufacturers do this. On an aorus board I had all the 3.5 ports were black
You mean the one that comes with most front panels available in the market? Having F_AUDIO was the solution.
Or 2 combined ones
Mines got 6. I guess it's made for a surround sound system lol.
Did no one read the description, not even the OP? We already have the separate input in the back, why have it again in the front instead of a combined in the front and separate in the back, have the best of both worlds
Better to have that and not need it than need it and not have it
Ahh, the hoarder’s creed. Now if you’ll excuse me, I have a box of adapters from the 90’s that needs sorting.
I am wondering, I’ve been using usb audio for a while because I prefer the versatility and the durability. But should I use my motherboards dedicated aux and sound card? (B650 tomahawk wifi)
Ah a fine addition to the random cable drawer, never know when you might need this
Yes, you are indeed crazy for thinking that we shouldn't still need this in 2025.
No. Combo jacks are dumb. Separate mic and headphones always if i have to game on the onboard audio.
Would be awesome if they did both.
Or just 1/4 jack the way it should be
My mic and headphones come separate. The world doesn't revolve around phones.
Especially if you target high quality.
It’s not even about phones, laptops have dual use 3.5mm jacks. Unless there’s some old technical debt in how the chips are designed that I’m not aware of, I don’t see why they couldn’t compromise and make the main headphone jack have the option of doing the laptop style mode where you can select headphones or headset w/ mic and then leave the full time mic jack too
i don't use laptops sorry
all my pc cases doesn't have combo jacks.
... Why? Separate is better, if you have a combined cable then an adapter isn't a big deal.
If you want one cable to one port get a USB headset. Geeze.
Oddly, I’m in a different camp. I wear a hearing aid with Bluetooth and use a mic accessory that streams to it. That has a headphone input that I use to plug into my PC so I can stream audio to my hearing aid without bothering others. It’s weird, I know, using Bluetooth and a headphone input at the same time! 😆
They have to maintain compatibility with legacy systems. And a lot of new audio equipment in the pro-sumer and professional space still uses separate connectors.
As they should
Why would motherboard makers add another jack if it does nothing but combine two jacks already present? Especially when
- The current layouts come from a time when PC headsets typically did have both mic and headphone jacks
- Getting a Y cable is trivial and cheap, and always had been
- Most PC headset manufacturers give you a Y cable if they did combine the jacks
- USB and wireless headsets were already gaining market share by the time 4 and 5-pole jacks became common
- some PC cases do combine the two for front audio
Or did you mean that they should remove the two and replace them with one combined? Then people who use older headsets or separate headphones and mics would need a Y cable.
I won't speculate which use case is more common but I know in the PC world people tend to frown upon losing ports, and motherboards aren't even space limited, at least not above embedded sizes. There they did combine them, or more frequently nowadays didn't put any jack on the board.
yes. yes you are.
Dealing with this is what sparked my journey into the audiophile universe although its been really fun my wallet wouldn't recommend. But all seriousness a good external DAC/AMP will change how you hear audio. (And you can put away the adapter for good!)
I spent $200 on an external DAC & Amp, another $150-200 on a solid pair of headphones. I can’t really tell the difference between the external and the motherboard.
DAC just means digital-to-analog converter. A good dac will more accurately convert the signals from digital to what you hear. It will improve the audio quality by making the reproduced signal closer to the original, but thats all it does. An amp... well it amplifies a signal.
Unless you use a high-resistance set of cans that would benefit from being driven by a dedicated amp, it isn't gonna do much.
The cans you wear and the EQs you tune might as well be responsible for 99% of your final sound. If your on PC i highly recommend you look into Peace Equalizer. Its very simple to set up and you can easily search for community premade tuning profiles by headphone. A proper tuning makes a much bigger difference than an external DAC and amp.
I use JDS Labs OL DAC & O2 Amp with Beyerdynamic DT 990 250-ohm headphones. Been I while since I’ve plugged into the motherboard, I’d guess 250 ohm might struggle on motherboard, but I’ve also compared with a similarly priced pair of low impedance Senhheiser headphones.
Good suggestion though on an equalizer. I used to have one built into Asus’s audio driver and it was nice, but their driver has always caused me issues across multiple motherboards & Windows installs and I just use Windows default driver now. Hadn’t thought to install a third party equalizer.
DT 990's my beloved.
Haters will tell you the highs are too high. Real ones know that sparkle is where the magic happens.
Frankly most audiophile stuff except the headphones themselves are basically expensive placebo. I don't think most people could realistically hear the difference between the DAC and the motherboard amp if they both have enough output for the headphones.
It’s less placebo and more just diminishing returns that plateaus off very quickly. The difference between built in DAC and cheap headphones and like 200-300$ invested into a decent headphone/Dac combo, is way bigger than the difference between the 200-300$ combo and spending thousands.
thats fair. its the loss of my Qudelix/ DAC that prompted the need for this in the first place. nothing beats FLAC+a DAC
The fact that you know what DAC and FLAC are makes your post extra crazy…
The combined port is very common on cases. If you're anal about it get an USB headset, guaranteed one cable solution no matter the motherboard or case.
"Give me less options!"
External mics
There is no right way to do this. What if you have a stereo mic, or a 5.1 setup routed thru two 3.5mm tri-jack ports?
I have the exact opposite of this problem.
If you don't want options, get a mac bro
Most gaming headsets have USB cables.
Most speakers can be plugged into the rear motherboard jacks - or sound card ports, if you have one.
Most cases I've seen do feature front/top 3.5mm jacks for mics and headphones - which I would think is more convenient.
Because some of us use audio and we like our sinks how they physically are.
You only need one of these if you’re using a shitty pair of headphones/mic
Yes u cray cray op
The back has so many ports because it's designed for surround sound or a similar such system. The front is just there for convenience, and is based on the case you own, not motherboard. So... Motherboards already do this. Also you have to remember that audio is usually the first thing manufacturers cheap out on, so long as "it's good enough" because most people won't notice the difference and those that do either already own an external dac and/or amp, or their headphones are USB based.
No, I prefer separate inputs. Some people use headphones and a usb mic. Most headsets don't sound great.
gotta use dac and amp anyways for decent quality
Imagine complaining about having choice lol.
sounds like a you problem
Because headsets are ass... Give me good headphones and decent standalone mic anyday...
I hate combo ports with a passion
It's pretty common on laptops... You could also get an Apple USB-C dongle which would likely have cleaner output AND input than your motherboard.
Either way, it seems like a non-issue since it's just going to be hanging off the back of your PC either way.
This way at least you could hook up a stereo microphone, whereas a combo jack would only support mono (as well as having higher crosstalk from the output)
Pretty sure you have the option to use bluetooth, buddy. Or something with a dongle.
many of us have outgrown cables.
headphones have become noise canceling and immersive
i can play my games and enjoy music without being tethered and not annoy others.
unfortunately i can see a time when my 4 port kvm becomes irrelevant and everything is VR.
I need the opposite of that for my new work laptop. 😤
Laptops. They have the single plug while desktops have separates. I know this because I use my headset for both and without the adapter I would be screwed.
Many cases already come with the combo port, so there is no need to add it to the motherboard. If it is a high priority to have the combo port, then there are cases available that include it.
You'd like Creative's Audio Control Module from their AE cards. It comes with built in microphone, or you can plug in another one of your choice. It baffles me that people spend thousands on graphics cards, but won't spend $100 for a sound card.
As I use this cable for headphones :
And XLR cable for mic, in all honesty I don't care. But I know many still prefer their cables to be sperated.
I have the opposite issue. My laptop only has a combo jack but my Sennheiser PC38X headset has the separated plugs. Have to use a splitter to reduce it down to the combo jack.
Sure. I don’t care for wireless/blu tooth. I have a pair of Arctic Steelseries headsets that use that. I’m happy it does. And if I need a replacement, it’s cheap.
Front of the case sometimes has a combined audio jack. If you need it. I prefer them separately. Because i use headphones and microphone separately.
You know, it probably just comes down to convenience. Most motherboards have multiple jacks for 5.1/7.1/etc sound output and have each and every jack a 3 pole 3.5mm jack so they can be used for whatever the user wants to use them for (e.g. sound output or input). Having a 4 pole jack would make that setup more complicated because you would need to have all 3/5/6 jacks be 4 pole jacks so that the user doesn't have to fumble behind their computer to plug into the correct jack.
That said, I have noticed that some cases are coming with a 4 pole jack for the front audio output to help clean up the front I/O panel.
My pc has split mic/speaker ports, and a combined one 🥳 the combined one is part of the case, next to the power button and extra USBs
USB Mic + USB DAC with Wired Headphones is how I have done for years
Don't like "gaming headsets"
Not all plug in headsets in the rear but instead into the provides jacks Then we have soundcard/audio interfce people Then we have minboards that do only have 2-3 jacks if any onbthe back I forgot the wireless guys
Quality headsets have separate jacks or even 6.3mm ones
So yes, if you ask directly, to me its more likely that your favorized solution is not the one of the mayority
I've got an Audient ID, deity mic and 712 pro headphones, I neither need that or a headset.
i haven't used something like this since like, 2015. that is when i switched to dedicated dac
external dac is 100x better than onboard mb dac.
Can't relate, have been using USB based wired or wireless headphones for over a decade now. I hate unnecessary cables.
Not a problem for me, I haven't used a microphone in game for years.
My headset with a Mic broke and I've been using my non mic headset for 6 months without noticing.
I have no friends with a PC, and none of them play the games I do.
We also shouldn't still have accessories that require a molex connection, but here we are.
No. U r wrong keep it simple where it is needed.
To be frank most most mobos have at least 1 duplex inputs for 3.5mm. The fact that you have both options seems is useful in case you have separate mic from headphones. Not sure why would you actually need such cable these days.
I don't the the mobo needs a dual port considering every case I've seen has one. I'm assuming board makers share this mentality, I actually like using a splitter just to add some length to my headphones cord.
Why not just use a wireless headset? Works great for me.
2 kids watching a film on a single iPad on a long car ride.
Thats why we still need this
One of every dongle.
Always be dongle'n.
Seriously, if you sort and store one of every odd ball adapter you will find yourself in far less "Oh fuck me" moments.
Man I hated those things. Always made my mic echo and the feedback noise was intense.
I went to arctis nova series 4 with the wireless USB dongle and am never looking back. I freaking love them.
Do people still use those? I use a USB DAC, XLR condenser mic and XLR studio speakers. If for some reason I want to use headphones it's a 1/4" TRS in the DAC. I haven't used an aux cable in forever.
My case has an audio out/mic in 3.5mm jack in the front (top) and I’ll still use one of these to split from my sound card to speakers/headphones.
With bluetooth headphones and usb microphones i don't think we can complain this much
My pc isn't even close enough to plug the headphones, i have to connect a wired controller and plug them in the controller's jack (which is another way of doing things)
Imagine using mobo sound.
I have not used one of those in probably 15 years lol
Bro blue snowballs are like $20 on eBay and you won’t sound like this:
Two seprate connectors is better for noise and interference, usb is nice but sometimes analog just sounds “crispier”
Make headphone cables long again!
If you not an audiophile sure. They are still used in a more professional setting aswell or just older equipment
My case has the combined one in the front, if I need it split I just connect it to the Mobo.
love these things... imagine you forget you're wearing headphones and walk away cos the doorbell went.... no damaged motherboard.
I despise dual jacks that force me to use an adapter for my split inputs.
A lot of modern cases come with a combo jack on the front IO, besides it's really not that big of a deal.
My front panel Audio port is a dual, while having the full spectrum on the I/O panel.
Your fault for buying a headset you should buy them separately way way better headsets fucking suck
Is your dentist also your proctologist?
The problem is not needing the adapter, is that most adapters are bad quality
I have a sennheiser pc38x headset running through a gsx 1000 and it’s pretty damn good on both audio and mic
My case has a port but the audio is always better from the mobo
I have an adapter in the reverse. Makes a dual port two ports one for mic one for headphones.
What if it was like the good old days when you needed a sound card because there was no audio on mobos. I know they still make them and there are use cases but it used to be a bigger part of the PC component sector
Getting line in audio on my phone has been a mixed bag. Only thing that has worked so far is using a USB sound card with a mic and audio out splitter for some reason. The whole trs trrs thing is likely my issue. I like to record my leds sync to music and best way to record audio is directly in.
Neh it's not weird. Its still a thing cause people want choice. And adopters give choice. So you can have the best mic and the best earphones. Separate if you want to.
Why its a thing and probably will be a thing for a long time. It gives consumers more power and more control over what they use. So consumer choice is freedom. And adopters make that possible. Why they are essential for many people.
I use a separate headphone and mic
If you are looking for good headphones + microphone, you don't buy headset. It is much better to buy these separately
you are crazy, it is still neccessary and will be as long as there is a pcmasterrace :D
Because good headphones don't have mics. And good mics don't have headphones. If you need an adapter, you need an adapter. It's better to have both options to give you the most choice. And the consumer should always have choice.
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The Reddit meta, right there.
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It’s the evolution of the Reddit “this” so…Reddit is quite fickle
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Oh boy, do I have news for you
Good mics also don't plug in using a 3.5mm jack. Hell, even bad mics don't plug in using 3.5mm these days. And good mics are going through a pre-amp with
45V48V phantom power, not directly into your PC.Good headphones do use a 3.5mm jack, but again once you get into higher tier stuff you're more likely to be running balanced audio through a DAC.
It's nice to have the option, yes, but it isn't because of "good headphones" and "good mics".
48V*
Good mics don’t have aux tho. (I still agree that it’s better to have the choice)
Good enough for PC - you don't need balanced XLR for Fortnite voice comms.
Good enough for pc is a headset.
Also I love the xlr connector + hefty cables; so nuh uh, clearly need that to scream at children.
you’ve convinced me I need an audiophile set up to be screamed at by children
It's totally different with a big range and good sound stage.
"You got 3D audio? Me and two friends 3D'd your mom"
You can also get xlr connectors on shitty equipment. If that is what you're after.
You absolutely do. Good headphones are the best thing ever.
Do you guys not have a 6 channel board on your desk to power your Sennheiser?
Screaming at kids in surround? fancy
Combo ports is good enough for PCs too.
They're mostly usb now
yuck sound quality garbage
But I have one…lol
To be fair, even if you could plug in a good microphone into your motherboard, you'd be way better off getting a cheap external interface to reduce electrical interference and noise.
they used to and probably still make these products for those hood rat car stereos with subwoofers in the trunk with 5000 watts mono channel. You would put them in line of your INPUT and/or OUTPUT, maybe one on each, and it basically was just a long wire wrapped around about 1000 twists. and it would cut all the static and background noise when amplified before the speaker. idk if it interferes with the OHMS (listen, I'm not an electrical engineer; I just know i used them once and they worked; it's like, well, if it works, it works). copy and paste my comment to ChatGPTfor an answer if interested. it got rid of ALL interference and noise, especially from wires being close to a high-power step-up amp.
beyerdynamic MMX 300 best headset I've ever had. Coupled with a DAC
I have them too, but they are technically just a dt 770 with a good condenser mic attached to them. The dt 770 will arguably give you slightly better sound. And a proper standalone microphone will give you better mic.
The value for money though is way up there.
Samson SR850 shill here to tell you all you need to spend on excellent headphones is $40. Got them when I had DT 770s and they blew them out of the water with open backs.
"just" a dt 770 which is legendary - I tried the dt 770 with a mic, it isn't practical. I tried modmic, it was a mess - not worth the trouble.
What issues you have with modmic? I just got one, and while the sound quality could definitely be a little better. I've had no real issues with it
Laughs in DT1990pro and Shure SM7b (while knowing that no one fucking needs that for gaming, but i'm into a bit of recording so i got me some nice toys that i can use for both).
I share the office with my wife, we don't use standalone mics.
Yeah, that's another argument - headsets are fire and forget, no need to fiddle with settings, at least nowhere near as much as with a setup like mine. And the MMX300s are really nice, especially for their price point - two friends of mine have them, they share an office too, sitting fairly close together, and there's never any crosstalk when we game together.
What do you do when you both have meetings/calls at the same time? Just hope it doesn't pick up the other person talking in the background?
Worst case: You need an adapter the other way around
When it comes to audio, is it all in the headphones? Or will audio from an ass computer still sound ass no matter how expensive the headphone set?
for most modern computers the headphones are like 85% of what makes audio good. Your motherboard could ruin the sound, but if it is anything recent it will likely not even be noticable. A external DAC/AMP is only need if your headphones don't get loud enough or there is too much low noise feedback/cross talk from the board because the onboard DAC is getting static from the board.
A caveat is if your device has a variable impedance curve, even modern high-end boards can have super high output impedance. Using mainboard audio for multi-driver IEMs almost always messes with the sound in my experience.
yes, in that case separate headphone amp is needed
i have static noise only if I use a sensible IEM from 7hertz. for that headphone i have to use a usb dac (which sounds so much louder and crisper then the onboard audio for some reason).
"audio" is a very generic word for such a specialized field.
Most newer mobos have decent drivers/hardware to support a good "gaming" headset that will provide excellent sound for a casual person to listen to music, have a chat at discord or play competitive games.
Audiophiles and professionals who demand higher quality sound, will invest in external hardware/interface no matter what, to support their non-gaming-branded headphones (and/or monitors) and their distinct microphone.
Please, audiophiles do not listen to the music, they listen to the flaws and noise in it.
<wink_wink>
As others have pointed out, mostly headphones. I'm just here to add that at least since recently, most motherboards have the exact same base audio circuits built in so its a pretty even starting point even across PC generations
It is choice of good source mix and hardware. Current PCs and laptops mostly have normal quality onboard analog amp.
See for each record/Cd there are multiple mixes: vinyl, radio mix, cd audio mix, streaming service mix, Carribean Seas mix 128kbps from 20y. So what you get on vinyl record will be a bit different to CD and bit different with streaming. Can I / you hear it? Yea, a bit of it for sure. Someone with keen (schooled musician, schooled musical instruments tuner) will for sure.
Even with best source and hardware if you use bad headphones - the sound will be subpar. And on opposite: excellent headphones and headphone amp, but lousy source sound (loudness to max or bad mp3) it will be again subpar.
But decent sound mix and decent quality headphones (so not the most expensive) will give you optimum and the end the fun and enjoyment of music is what it counts.
So I with high grade headphones and separate headphone amp+dac combo can have same fun as kid with string attached headphones from smartphone.
Sincerely, old Hifi enthusiast.
The headphones do 99% of the work, do not let audiophiles trick you into buying €1000 cables and shit, but you may need an external DAC (or a sound card if you want to be retro) for particularly hard to drive headphones. Anything in the range of like 1-80Ω impedance is probably fine straight out of a PC.
Headphones, DAC, and then the source audio, in that order.
put this on his tombstone ╰(*°▽°*)╯
I want to add that good mics don't use 3.5 mm jacks
Yep, and if you want a combo jack then there's plenty of cases with one
Yeah, but there are good ones. They just cost $200+. Steel series Arctis 1 pro cost $250 replaceable batteries make it amazing, but you will never beat something made for a single thing like saying hdmi vs dp. dp will always be ahead as it does 1 thing
And a lot of chassis do have the combo jack, and necessitate the use of the reverse of this adapter for the front panel.
Pretty much this. Any pair of studio cans for around the same price of gaming headphones sound way better. Just get a mod mic or whatever to pair with it.
Bonus points, headphones don't look tacky as shit
Good headphones and good mics shouldn’t be plugged in 3.5mm anyway
While this is generally true, I'd say the Audeze Maxwell headphones are fantastic and do come with a mic, even if it's not a good one lol.
Or you could have a dual aux in the front with options in the back, this is how mines set up and I see no better option
Then they should just include the adapter in the box, I hate that I have to buy this 5€ thing just to be able to use my headphones just because I'm not spending the price of my pc on 'good' headphones and mic. Damn.
sure but why can't they have both types of jack
why not have 2 jacks on the mobo that work for both mics and headphones?
This looks like an adapter from the VZR Model Ones which are pretty solid headphones TBH
Good mics require a dedicated audio interface and good headphones require an amp.
No, no, we should let corporations like apple dictate our I/O needs and like it
You are absolutely right 👏
Adapter?! I hardly know her.
Damn right, boss