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So, PSG can get the 6 titles this season, right? Cup, UCL, League, CWC, and Uefa Super Cup, France Super CUp?
Fucking hell.
7 actually. intertoto cup
Super Cup is next season. But they can win the septuple
Mbappe laziness should be punished with another 150m bonus
bro he just got back and is 60% of his own body weight in this sweltering heat. I think we can give him a pass this time.
Does anyone know who Brentford want to buy that would make them want 65m upfront. Its so bizarre they must have some great transfers lined up
Real Madrid is definitely becoming more like the 2004 Galacticos. Big stars trying to tape over gaping holes elsewhere, multiple top players occupying the same position, and a big ego at the epicentre of it
Who was the last team to beat PSG in a cup game? Can't seem to remember 🤔🤔
Vini will defenitely not get sold (well, at least not this summer), but in theory ... how much could RM expect for him? Assuming he wants to stay in europe.
150m?
How many clubs in Europe have the money to buy him anyway? Three, five maybe?
A few clubs from England, PSG and maaaybe Bayern.
The relegation fight next season in the premier league looks really interesting. Teams like Wolves, Bournemouth, Brentford have been ransacked by other clubs. The newly promoted teams: Sunderland, Burnley, and Leeds have good financial backing and have been making good moves so far. Also outside shouts like Fulham, Everton, and West Ham might be fighting for survival. And really really outside shouts like Manchester United and Tottenham Hotspur don’t pick up form. But very unlikely to happen. That’s 9, potentially 11+, teams that might be in a dogfight if what I said comes to fruition.
Fulham and Everton I think will be fine, they didn’t lose any big players that I can think of right now, and Everton looked much better under Moyes. Remains to be seen how Westham deal with losing Kudus. But another shout is Palace. There are talks about Eze and Guehi transfers, and they’ll have midweek games if they can remain in Europa, which I don’t know if they have a decent enough squad for.
Everton currently have 17 senior players. I agree they should be okay but the squad is thin.
Spurs should be nowhere near the relegation battle. I imagine they'll finish somewhere between 6th and 9th though.
United could be a disaster.
I think it's about time that one of the newly promoted teams break the cycle and stay up.
Tottenham have had a huge drop off last season but you'll be fine.
United are fucking doomed if things persist
Dunno how outside shot west ham are tbh, they were one of the weakest survivors last season. Obviously anyone who survived needs to drop off some, combined with one of the promoted teams not being complete shite, but they've got less wiggle room than most.
Halfway through last season they lost Michael Antonio and Jarrod Bowen for (respectively) the rest of the season & most of the second half.
they were not that good to begin with but that is why they turned into a championship club with better passers last season.
Spurs should be way better than last season.
United could be another story, we will see.
Dembele scored 9 goals before January and 28 goals since the start of 2025. Absolutely outrageous
Decent purple patch
personally don’t think kicking palace out of europe is enough. kick them out the premier league. kick them out of consciousness
to anyone upset: i once demanded UEFA strip us of the conference league cos i got a bit annoyed at a lopetegui lineup
To those who remember Rory Delap, was he any good outside his throw in ability? I assume he was decent enough to play for Stoke
I remember him being a solid but unremarkable midfielder for Southampton, and then being surprised when he came up with Stoke and was all about the throw ins. That’s wasn’t a thing at Saints I don’t think,
Apparently Pulis saw him pissing about throwing the ball in training and got the idea.
I say apparently because a lot of his anecdotes get proven to be at best inconsistent when fact checked.
What likelihood does this sub think we have of winning the CWC final against PSG?
listen here, the history of your club is mostly doing unexpected shit for good and for bad, so i give you a chance, mostly because the hate is too strong for both of you, Enzo, Caicedo and some company is not a BAD BAD team just very underperforming team.
Obviously you're the underdog but anything can happen in a one off match.
Im certain you’re winning it’s the most Chelsea thing to casually beat this psg super team
Not great, but anything can happen in a final.
PSG are definitely the best side Liverpool have come up against in long while - like I genuinely have to go back a long way to find a game where we were dominated like they did to us in Paris. I imagine Real Madrid and Inter can attest to how good they are too.
If caicedo is healthy 28%
1/8
Idk how hot of a take this is but I think that Kvara is a better player than Dembele and is underrated in the context of this PSG team
It's only because of his vast injury history at Barca that he hasnt been able to maintain the form & career momentum that had him clear of Vinicius Jr for the last years.
The underrated take is one thing, but better than Dembele? I want what you're smoking.
It's gonna be interesting to see Madrid doing the Galactico to Actual Team transformation for the fourth time. Xabi and Perez need to be on the same page.
Kylian mbappe left psg and they won the treble😂😂😂
Kylian Mbappe Joined Real Madrid and we went TROPHYLESS😂😂😂😂
I hate the guy
His fanboys are the worst
I loved the squad before he joined
Forgot to change your flair mate
we have actually become psg the way we celebrate this guy's golden boot instead of trophies now,you reckon i should change flair to psg?
So who is getting benched? Vini surely?
Why's he getting benched?
I still find it wild that for nearly a decade the common sentiment was that Enrique was good but not great coach carried by MSN.
No amount of Oil money will make me forget his crimes against humanity during the Spanish NT tenure.
Real Madrid fans losing their minds while the players are partying with JayZ probably
Real Madrid fans losing their minds? Gosh I've never seen that before.
Udinese to sign Geubbels
Lazio starting the preseason with Floriani Mussolini
Serie A ain't beating the allegations
Monaco's manager can do the funniest shit ever
Floriani being a direct descendant of the OG fasco while being a right winger for Lazio is absolutely unreal. Too comical to believe.
Imagine Flo Hitler gunning down the right line at Dynamo Dresden.
Are there any Hitlers around in Germany or have they all changed their name?
There's some Hitler-ish names still living in Austria, like Hietler or Hütler, but no one's running around with that direct name anymore.
Just patiently waiting for Thibaut to finish his interview
PSG beat La liga 8-0 and MLS only 6-0
Good thing trent didnt play today man or else kvara would have farmed clips after clips on him
u/Public-Connection822 u/synch72 hahaha you guys both owe me an apology
Massive massive season for vini Jr next year because mbappe will want that LW spot..
It's Alonso: He's already toying around a fair bit with lineups because it's not about the names but the roles of players for him.
Seen it with how he's used Vinicius already, tucking him in much further so giving him a shorter, simpler way towards goal. But that's all also down go Garcia leading the line as a 'proper' striker. Could easily see that change depending on the opponent, with Mbappé supported by Vinicius and Bellingham in the 3-4-2-1 style buildup for example, because ultimately they have a wealth of flexible attacking options that will help them adapt to specific opposition. And given Alonso already improved their collective pressing and how compact they are as a team throughout all phases of play I reckon they'll both be just find when they apply themselves properly.
Sometimes there might only be space for either Mbappé or Vinicius, but plenty of times there'll be space for both of them, just like under Ancelotti.
Makes sense, nice breakdown
So he can drop stinkers on the left?
Guy doesn’t press or track back, isn’t creative enough but still insists playing a position he isn’t good at?
A LW With zero defensive pressure is sure great idea, yeah as bad as Vini defense is somehow his numbers pressure per 90 are double Mbappé how ? I dont even know
Yeah but mbappe output makes up for that + you know what you’ve signed. He’s been lazy for a while in defensive effort.
9 just ain’t working for him.
His output drops the second he plays LW
Won’t get that tap-ins he is getting now
In modern football no unless you are a prime Messi, Ronaldo level player and with all due respect for Mbappé even at his best he isnt at the level of of those two not at all no one is so he should do more efforts and that true for every single player of that squad
Mbappe just had an underwhelming season for his standards and finished with over 40 G/A, a Mbappe at his best can produce like 60 G/A. He already did that in the past.
Mbappe actually gets G/A tho
Tap-ins as a CF
As a LW he has to work, which he doesn’t like
Real Madrid are an actual embarrassment, the way they have got absolutely annihilated in every tournament this season is nothing less than shameful.
They lost 5-1 on aggregate to a fucking arsenal team playing martinelli, one legged saka, and mikel merino up top.
Instead of dawdling waiting for Konate's contract to run out Madrid should either just buy him now or buy someone else surely?
To be honest, if he's deadset on leaving, Real Madrid being woeful defensively might be a blessing in disguise as they might pony up the cash and buy him now.
I like Konate a lot and would far rather he stays given we're already seeing a lot of squad turnover, but losing him for free would be foolish.
It would likely mean buying two new centre backs though which isn't ideal.
We should but Perez would rather waste another season hoping Xabi can somehow make it work with this shambles of a defense.
Florentino’s preference save a bit of cash and have zero depth and fail to address obvious needs when he’s running the biggest club in the world with resources just about everyone else could only dream of is very confusing to me. Feel as though their champions league black magic has papered over some strange policies.
I guess they don’t have as much of a need at CB now with Huijsen but their treatment of that position long term has been very odd to me.
Im worried they could come back in for Saliba but they haven’t been linked really
My worry is they’re doing a Trent to him and he will go on a free.
Have to tie him this season or sell.
I agree tbh we won’t win the league anyway with how things are going
Genuine shame, best team we’ve had in 20 years.
We probably just won’t ever win the league again unless we get an ownership change
You only need like couple lucky things to go your way to win the league man. No top team is ever too far off winning the league (except United)
You’re the first person who’s said that to me and 100% agree.
I don’t wanna speak for you but I feel like you’re resigned to the fact that this ownership group isn’t serious.
I’ll be completely honest, I don’t really like Arteta anymore but it’s the owners who let him spend and have massive power at the club.
Don’t wanna get all emotional about it but bottom line is they don’t really care about sporting success. They’re probably the most apathetic owners in top level football. It’s just all money and PR.
I’ll say no more.
They don’t play for top defenders anymore, they whisper in the ear of defenders and sell them on the idea of a free transfer for more wages and to come to Madrid.
They’ll bid a silly amount as a feeler or tell him to come next year on a free.
I’d just keep him and get big CB in next summer.
We pay but only when there is a spot actually we have 5 CB with 4 who are inconsistent unless there is a departure we wont move on the market.
Fair enough other than dean you got in this season a few came on frees but makes sense.
Dembele winning the Balon D'or before Mbappe and Haaland (he was robbed obviously) is actually unbelievable. What a story.
Haaland should never get near a balon d’or
Messi won the World Cup while being captain and scoring two goals in the finals and being etc etc etc.
Let it go.
That’s great but Haaland won the golden boot and won the treble while breaking the prem record for goals in a season. He got punished for being from Norway
Scoring more goals ≠ being the best at the game of football.
I agree but in this case Haaland was exactly what City needed to finally win a UCL and they won everything else they could have too. Also Messi wasn’t the best player in football in 2022. He wasn’t even their best player in the final
Not really. Haaland didn't scored or assisted past the QF. And I'm being extremely generous by counting his goals against Bayern in said stage.
Why is his away goal at Bayern being generous? And if you watched that home match vs Madrid, it's not hyperbole to say Courtois robbed Haaland of a hat-trick with his brilliance. I agree he had a poor final, though.
The tie was 3 - 0 with 30 minutes left when he scored in Germany. Game was over by then.
Also earlier in the match he missed a penalty.
He scored in the home leg to make the tie 3-0, and killed it off in their stadium to make it 4-0. I have no idea what point you're trying to make.
Wasnt great in the latter part of the champions league either
He was the main target of Real Madrid and inters defense so it gave more space to players like Rodri, bernardo Silva,Rodri,akanji, and Alvarez. Plus he could have had a Hatrick vs real if it wasn’t for Cortois
I don’t think punished is the word but I understand the point
Stiller should be an obvouis transfer target for RM.
I unironically think if Stiller looked like Giroud, every top club would be after him
PSG really has the opportunity to prove they are best team in world. Defeat Conference league winners, defeat Europa league winners later with treble and CWC.
Edit: I mean defeating Europa league winners and Conference league winners is not something we see which often. Super Cup is open Europa vs UCL winner hence it's a bit unique in that case.
Fuck do you mean "opportunity" mate?
i’d love to meet the person out there that’s currently thinking “hmmmm PSG haven’t beaten Spurs, can’t call them the best team in the world just yet.”
History will remember that Thomas Muller’s last game Bayern and Luka Modric’s last game at Real were both defeat against PSG
History is unlikely to remember this tournament enough to associate those players to this tbh
History will remember Enrique having a negative record against Edin Terzic too
History will remember that Thomas Frank was the only manager to beat this PSG super team in a final.
strange way to spell Enzo Maresca
Madrid fans really thought Alonso was going to improve on what Ancelotti achieved there because he's a tactico fan favourite. Today was the ultimate reality check for them.
Expecting results in two weeks?
Me when my cup of camomile tea doesn't immediately unclog my sinuses.
He's been there a month
It's been a month
Surely, you can not be this dumb?
Edit: Never mind, you're American
Hey this seems xenophobic but…
I saw many ppl predict it but Madrid becoming worse after securing Mbappe is pretty crazy
Biggest issue is the massive Kroos sized hole in the midfield. It was pretty obvious we'd regress based on that alone.
They were right haha
I have said this before that adding Mbappe over Vini adds very little incremental value for the money spent. People have completely forgotten, this team just the season before lost two matches the whole season after losing Giraffe and the starting CBs. Vini was without a doubt the 2nd best LW after Mbappe. Perez getting Mbappe without plugging the holes of Nacho, Kroos leaving and not getting some more defense backups capitulated a team that kept prime ManCity at bay at Etihad.
It’s 100% evident now that Vini and Mbappe probably won’t work. There is a possibility that instead of Rodrygo it would be Vini who’ll want out. I genuinely think if a PL team comes with a good offer, Vini might be tempted. He already has won everything at Madrid, he won’t have to share space with Mbappe, won’t have to deal with the racist nonsense every away game.
People talked about team balance and egos, personnally i thought it was risky but had faith in the coaching, well its going great.....
We could've signed Kane instead but Perez's obsession with turtles got in the way
Haaland's profile fit so much better for you as well, I'm surprised Florentino always seemed hellbent on Mbappe and didn't seem to try (for what I remember) to beat City to his signature. Genuinely would've been the perfect 9 to stick in that team.
Mbappe is an incredible player as indicated by his golden boot last season but the fit with Vinicius was always a big question mark. It's up to Xabi Alonso to see if he can improve on that.
Dembouz already surpassed Mbappe’s PSG legacy
I only say this somewhat ironically: is asencio not the next ramos?
Pablo ramon still around?
Purple patch merchant
The people that think PSG are this untouchable side - do you think they win the champions league again this year?
Edit: As a follow up, if you were placing a bet at the moment, do you think it's more likely that the winner is PSG or a team from the rest of the competition?
Obviously they can win it next year I don’t think they will simply because it’s been really hard to retain since the CL became the CL and not the European cup.
Injuries probably happen, bad luck, fatigue etc.
I’d pick someone else winning if I had to
Everyone said the same about City 2 years ago
Well they only lost on penalties to real madrid and ten hags dark magic to keep his job in the next season
They could
They have a great coach, unlimited funds, and they play in a league they can jog home. They can save all their efforts for the Champions League.
Are you asking if we believe PSG has a bigger chance than all other teams put together? Not in a million years.
So much shit can happen in a year, it’s impossible to say
It’ll be hard. The CL final is literally a year away. A lot can happen in that time (loss of form, injuries, other bad luck).
They could’ve slipped on one of those penalties against Liverpool and not even have made the semifinals.
Ask me again after the summer window is over, but yes, gun to my head i think they defend their title. Definitely favourites.
We're the favorites brother
As someone who watched prime Barca and Madrid, it might be crazy to say this, and it is probably because the opposing teams are worse by they’re the best team I’ve ever seen
anything can happen in a knockout tournament but they should be clear favourites
I agree with the clear favourites tag. To rephrase I suppose, do you think it's more likely that the winners are PSG or a team from the rest of the competition?
i wouldn’t put them at an over 50% chance of winning the CL, no.
Me neither. They are the clear best team in the world but I still wouldn’t bet on them to repeat.
It’s like gambling on golf. Scottie is the best but I’m not betting on him vs the field.
Can’t wait to see Caceido vs Joao Neves
If Lavia and Caicedo are both fit for final, this could make for interesting battle
Hopefully he can play
Xabi might need to give some ultimatums to Perez
Assuming the intensity level doesn’t drop I wouldn’t be surprised if they won the UCL again.
Those FBs just make it all click. Unbelievable recovery pace, wingers who are 1v1 demons too. CMs that aren’t pressable, a good DM in neves.
Dembele f9 is another stroke of genius by the manager and the fact he’s got him to fully buy in too.
Ligue one games means they can rotate and rest players and assuming they’re up for it again and motivated they can do it all again, with some luck of course as you need in the CL.
They need some luck with injuries as well. It’s a very different team when Mendes or Hakimi are not on the field, there simply aren’t many fullbacks that can do what they do for 90 minutes, they lose a lot of their dynamism without them.
Yeah true they make it tick
I can see that. Depends how motivated he can keep them. No one is strong enough in Ligue 1 to give even two pony race and they have less games after reducing to 18 teams.
Although, season is very long. Repeating stuff is difficult. Pep has such a good consistency to win PL but fumbled at UCL, Madrid were super team with treble shouts when Mbappe signed them after UCL and Liga double.
It’s the league that makes me think they can really do it.
They can afford to go all out in the CL and especially the latter stages assuming they wrap their league up early.
Team is young and I’m assuming still hungry, the legs are all there to still play this way. As you say anything can happen but seeing them play like this makes me feel that way.
They made Madrid look so ordinary today.
I mean Madrid has been ordinary for months. PSG didn't really face any challenge. Closest was Bayern and before that Villa but yeah if I was betting now, I would say they have a very good shot to reach final better than any other top teams given league, games and young squad.
However, for me best time to start speculation starts around start of November.
Yeah we’ll see..
Well Well Well where's the slapbot guy telling everyone real madrid are favorites for the cwc and how mbappe could still win the ballon d'or because of it
I haven't seen that guy in awhile tbh
I think the mods took him out back.
Can't even find a user with the name 'slapbot' that was active here actually anymore
Maybe it was all a nightmare
Is there a reason people use international form over the span of say 2, 3, even 4 years to assess tournament favorites for the WC? You'd be laughed out of the room if you brought up the form of say, Barcelona or PSG 3 years ago to talk about who would win the UCL next year. Of course lack of truly competitive matches makes it tricky to assess a team, but I think we should just agree that makes what happens next unpredictable rather than pretend form from 2-4 years ago matters.
I think the reason we see teams that perform well 2-4 years ago perform well today is because the "big" nations can continue developing footballers to cover for those who dropped off, same way Real Madrid are probably going to be a threat to win the UCL in 3 years because they can continue replacing players who underperform. But it's not because being good 3 years before the WC matters. Argentina were great for years prior to winning the WC but they actually had to replace a good amount of key players at the last minute to win the previous WC, players who had no role in the team even a year prior.
And just look at Morocco, they lost 3-0 to the US a few months before the past WC.
Positives:
The team got humbled. Some of these players need it.
Bellingham will get his shoulder injury.
Carvajal is back, Militao looked ok and will be needed.
Alonso will maybe get more reinforcement based on this result.
And guys remember, PSG almost didn't make it past the group stage in the Champions League. Alonso took over this team just a month ago. It will take time.
I'm expecting some dumb comments. But I didn't expect so many dumb comments.
It’s classic Real Madrid lose a big game, this subreddit loses their mind
Madrid lost the first El Clasico 4-0 last season , everybody lost their mind and eventually they were right lol.
I mean if any team loses 4-0, there would be reactionary comments. There just will be.
Especially if 4-0 flatters the side that lost. It could have been 6,7-0
Yes it could've been
But there needs to be nuance to it. Don't you think?
Asencio and Rudiger gave away two goals. The match didn't even have a chance to settle. After that, the team got rattled and the positive signs we saw in the last two matches were gone.
This PSG side will be Luis Enrique's true legacy even above the MSN side. Unbelievable work.
it's Spain vs Morocco, no matter how many trophies he will win.
I genuinely don’t watch Barca games. Is Yamal genuinely one of the best in La Liga? Or is he incredibly talented for his age, but not necessarily bdor level. Like, my question is, if someone like Oyarzabal has the season Yamal is having, does he get BD’or shouts?
Genuinely one of the best players in La Liga and in the world. Ballon d’Or is 100% Dembele’s this season tho
Lamine Yamal is only in the d’Or race because of his age. Raphinha deserves it more.
Like, my question is, if someone like Oyarzabal has the season Yamal is having, does he get BD’or shouts?
I think he does, but not even close to the same extent.
one of the best in the world full stop.
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I don't get the triple parenthesis here, is it implying Arteta finds Jewish players?
I’ve seen great Madrid teams play some awful football but the difference is that it would never get in their head like this. When this current Madrid team is being outplayed they completely lose their heads and start gifting goals, playing with their heads down, passing nowhere and walking around as if they’ve already lost. If they go 1-0 down while also being the worse team then they’re going to get run over. It’s like that Real Madrid mentality has just left them
We need to start having the conversation about Hakimi being the greatest full back of all time. Easily top 5 ever in my opinion. This is not the first season he’s been a top player.
If you said this decade, then we could have a conversation. Ever is laughable.
Nah. Maldini won the EC/UCL 5 times and played in 3 other finals. Played over a 1000 games in his career. Let's wait a bit for Hakimi.
He's not the best full back ever, jesus christ. I know this sub only remembers the past 5 minutes, but this is absurd.
Are we just going to pretend the likes of Maldini didn't exist?
Maldini, Lahm, Dani Alves, Roberto Carlos, Cafu, Marcelo, Ashley Cole, Zanetti ... just a few names from the top of my head
Yesterday I've read the same comment about Mendes lmao
Gonzalo García is very good in the box, him trying to cross the ball to Mbappe was a choice.
Since the Intercontinental Cup has replaced the old CWC format on top of the new CWC, PSG can win 7 trophies in a year.
Lot of talk of how good PSG are and credit to them as they are the best team in the world, but I thought Bayern were able to go toe to toe with them for large parts of their tie. There were no clear better team and Bayern had their own chances + two offside goals. Messed it up in the end but didn't feel one sided like the other games PSG has won. Could have ended differently if Musiala wasn't injured in the first half. And if Davies wasn't out. PSG are great but not untouchable.
I am curious to see how Barca would fair against them. Maybe in the upcoming UCL.
Because Bayern are undoubtedly no 2 in the quality of attack they have.
Ollise, Kane, Musiala, Davies, yeah they really are as good a attack as PSG or fit Barca(i.e. Lewa Playing).
I mean you can't really get better than this. It's just their defence is non existent . I mean you can't beat any decent team with defence of Tah, Upameno , and Laimer, Lee. They all are mid
calling upa mid is wild. he has been massive this season and him getting injured before the CL QF was a huge loss
have you watched our games against you guys lmao. how can you watch the CL tie and think upa is mid?
Flicks high line means get beat, even with a fit balde and kounde.
It would be a great game though but they’re press resistant so pressing them high up the pitch would just trigger runners behind and they’d punish you.
I might be wrong but that high line is suicidal vs this PSG team.
is this psg team one of the best of all time? not in terms of longevity or trophies or whatever, just purely in terms of absolute peak in playstyle and domination in the highest tier of football
only contenders i can think of in the last decade are city late 2010s, barca early 2010s, madrid with the 3peat, liverpool 2019/20.
any others?
I can't believe the outrage of Vinicius not winning the Balond'or. Bro is average and his numbers are average. People were acting like him not winning was equivalent to their dog getting shot in how offended they were.