So once they move on from Nunez, Liverpool will have to buy a striker. No idea who they can go for that has decent finishing and experience.
Yeah if Nunez leaves, No Jota and Luiz Diaz twerking for Barca we need a replacement
Unless we're doing the false 9 thing again?
Honestly the turnover in the squad will be a bigger issue in this squad than people think in my opinion. We're losing half our first team squad, and I#m not exaggerating. Pro: Arne gets to implement his own philosophy to fresh faces, but established Liverpool players were already absorbing his philosophy / tactics anyway.
Con: The cultural shift will be big, playing mechanisms will need to get used to again first.
We are not losing our core though or the leadership so i disagree with your con, We basically got same GK, Both CB's, same midfield with addition of Wirtz Next to Gakpo and Salah. Bradley was already playing at RB while trent was injured, Kerkez is upgrade from Robbo
I don't know how people are panicking so hard yet forgetting we literally did the same 2 years ago with much more important players - we sold what was basically our first team midfield, including TWO captains and another senior leadership figure and bought entirely new one and it improved our midfield instantly.
It's really not that hard to imagine replacing the likes of Darwin, Chiesa or even Jota and their contribution to the team.
I feel talented attackers are scarce these days, it’s why Barca & Bayern are willing to pay for Diaz and Arsenal are willing to pay so much for Gyokeres
People always say that and then someone comes "out of nowhere" like Cole Palmer or even Diaz himself - I said multiple times, in summer of 2021 NO ONE would be calling for Liverpool to buy Luis Diaz as a Mane replacement, 6 months later we did it and he hit the ground running. There are players out there, especially if we do not have to put too much pressure on them and with the way our squad is built, we really don't. We have proven goalscorers and creators in our team, we can ease any of the forward players we buy into the team and not burden them with "we need you to score million goals since day 1"
You could even add Mo Salah to that list, he wasn’t quite world class when he joined and was just bought initially for competition and or depth
Yeah, if you suggested player that’s 1:1 to Roma Salah as Salah’s replacement on our sub you’d be laughed out of the park while everyone would be going how we need to buy Yamal or Saka.
I have full trust in our recruitment team, if they think they can get it right, I believe they can.
I wish we would make another smart signing like we did with Jota. I think when you splurge on strikers is when you get into trouble. Let the data guys find someone on lower half of the Prem or in the Championship and let’s see how it pays off. Super jealous of Chelsea’s Joao Pedro signing right now.
We might lose Konate though. I struggle accepting that Liverpool will just allow the same situation with Trent to happen again. I guess the important measure would be is a year of Konate more valuable than getting money for him and investing in a new Cb.
Winning major trophy next season is way more important than getting 30-40 million for Ibo this summer
Don’t think we’ll have a choice. Rumours say Konate only wants Real - and they’re happy to wait for contracts to run out.
If he’s waiting his contract out, either push for a sale or bench him and aim for a bigger prospect CB to play in his place. World Cup is coming up so it’s more damaging to his reputation
Knowing Arne Slot that just won’t happen, he didn’t bench Trent or even Mo and VVD when there was uncertainty
If the club goes out and buys Konate replacement this year then yeah that would happen.
The club didn’t have anyone to compete with the players you named.
But why would you be paying top salary to a top player just to keep him on the bench to 'ruin their reputation'? That does nothing for no one, only hurts a top prospect and makes Liverpool looks like a small club.
Mo and VVD were different as they were open to conversations and wanted terms set on contract, Konate doesn’t. Plus we are in the transfer window to get another defender and replace Konate now I guess.
Trent was benched a fair amount last season
I'd rather win the title with him in the team and then him move on. He will have fullfilled his contract and delivered two league titles. That's a decent return.
Can't force him to sign a new deal and leaving a player to rot on the bench doesn't make sense.
But why? Isn’t it more valuable to have a chance to win some trophies than Liverpool would get for a player with a year left on his contract?
The approach of benching him is only rational if you’re thinking of players primarily as assets rather than employees
Feel like then you’re sending a message it’s ok to run a contract down and the club loses out on a transfer. Selling and buying players is how clubs and football operate, if we let every single player leave on a free when their contract is up, how does the club generate enough money to replace them exactly? Konate AND Trent will both have left on a free causing Liverpool to lose out on a transfer fee to replace them, and I’m sorry but we could replace Konate currently and afford to bench him as the club isn’t dependent on him alone, so winning trophies isn’t linked directly to having him either play every game, or at all.
I’m sorry but I hate this idea of “they’re employees” because I wouldn’t get “sold” by my employer to the next one, nor do I have a value in the sense of football, so it’s not at all comparible..
Edit: Just want to make a quick note - this is how I feel on running contracts down, it may be incorrect or seen as stupid but I’ve never really understood how clubs, like Liverpool, can let it happen without being firm on the situation
Doesn’t make sense to me if you hurt your chances of winning. I think you sell who isn’t working and try and replace them, but if Konate is performing then a year of his is better than a year of someone worse. Plus then what does that say to players thinking about joining, seeing that the club will do that.
Nothing we can do. The club side is powerless in such a case.
I don't think it'll be that big of a deal Slot is an excellent team builder, he had to replace pretty much 8 starters at Feyenoord after his first season with us and actually went on to win the league with that newly build team.
We're losing half our first team squad, and I#m not exaggerating
Yes you fucking are.
Alisson
Kelleher !
Trent !
Bradley
Konate
VVD
Gomez
Quansah !
Robbo
Tsmi ? No rumours but you'd imagine he could go with Robbo staying.
Grav
Macca
Jones
Endo
Szobo
Elliot ?
Salah
Chiesa ?
Jota !
Nunez !
Gakpo
Diaz?
9 out of 22. Less than half. And that's including the question marks.
I'd be absolutely amazed if All 4 of Nunez, Chiesa, Diaz and Elliot go with what's happened to Jota.
We've categorically stated Diaz is not for sale every time.
If one of those 4 doesn't go, that makes it 8/22, closer to a third rather than half. That's not including the question marks over Tsmi.
Regarding first 11, it's maximum 2 players out of the 11 (Diaz, Trent). This time, it's not even remotely close to half.
Could it be cause of concern losing a lot of players? Sure. There's definitely a discussion to be had.
But why on earth do you go out of your way to say "I'm not exaggerating" when of course you are.
Me when I’m pedantic on the internet
Did you see the quote I replied to?
He specifically stated he's not exaggerating. I'm not sure on your grasp of English but when I prove otherwise, that's not being "pedantic" - they're contradictory.
Bring on Ben Doak. He’s talked about wanting to play as a striker
Oh has he? He's really quite exciting when I've watched him, but worried if slot finds Harvey Elliott to be a little too lightweight doak might not get too much of a chance
I'm not against the false 9 thing tbh
City won a league with it.
Bobby was a false 9 - when we bought him he was basically a 10, he wasn't known as a 9 by any means.
PSG have done well with Dembele playing up front.
Our best line up currently, probably doesn't involve starting Nunez.
And most importantly, that proper number 9 is unbelievably rare. There are only a handful of proper 9s who are of good enough quality to be worth it, and none of them are available / make good business sense for Liverpool.
Yeah me either tbh.
Firmino was an absolute wizard, the likes of which we'll probably never see again
Sesko and / or Ekitike
Think sesko is off the table, maybe ekitike too now that we'll need a jota replacement. But the club was definitely planning on replacing jota soon, probably next summer, so those plans will have to be moved up.
You lot please keep Diaz. Give a fuck off quote so that Deco fucks off.
Will he fuck off
I hope so. If not, well, there goes the club’s finances for the next 2-3 years at the least.
Coutinho 2 Electric Boogaloo
We have, it’s just up to you lot now to fuck off or not.
Liverpool giving fuck off quote only for Deco to accept will be absolute cinema
He basically has that
Diaz is as good as Raphina was for Leeds when you bought him
I don’t think they can risk that this season if they want to win the big trophies again. Arsenal have demonstrated how much a lack of a striker affected some results last season, creating chances and no one finishing them off.
Any reason why Jonathan David (who’s just signed for Juventus) wasn’t considered by Arsenal, Liverpool and Chelsea?
While I do think that Liverpool need a striker - Arsenal not only lacked a striker but they lacked actual proven goalscorer. Liverpool dont have that issue as Salah is as proven goalscorer as it gets. They can, in theory at least, afford to play with false 9 and have Salah be main goalscorer (like he was ever since he got to Liverpool). Arsenal could continue with Havertz if they get 15+ goal a season winger - which is easier said than done.
There is a world where Wirtz plays in front 3 for Liverpool and everything clicks into place.
As things stand Gakpo , Chiesa and Wirtz will probably be competing for the false 9 and left wing spots. Feels like using Wirtz in the midfield would be a better use of his abilities so I think they need another striker
Chiesa also leave, nothing concrete yet but seems likely
Thats why Diaz saga is a turning point, if he leave means we need to buy at least 3 attackers, that wont be easy
Chiesa won't still be here
Not one of those wants to play up top so that won't be happening unless we somehow dont buy a striker
chiesa couldn't even sniff the bench last year, slot doens't rate him at all he's not a thing. He wants to go back to italy.
I don’t want to see Gakpo at false 9, he is way better at LW
I disagree. The issue is that Salah is likely to have a drop off from his phenomenal 24-25 season. He will still have a good output but they need to spread the goals across the frontline as he’ll be at poAFCON midway through the season. Losing Jota (RIP) and Nunez leaves them light up front, as Gakpo and Diaz are more comfortable on the left wing. Chiesa is still there but I face no clue why Slot doesn’t favour him at all.
That aside, squad depth is looking too light and with increased games, they need a sufficient squad to compete.
You simply do not disagree - like I said I also think Liverpool need a stirker but just that need for Arsenal is bigger.
Arsenal's lack of 9 is exactly the big reason they haven't won anything
In part yea, much bigger issue is they dont have consistent goalscorer. That usually comes from striker position - so I can see why people conflate those things. I doubt anyone would be complaining about lacking a number 9 if they had prime CR7 on the left wing tho.
IMO they need to get someone who guarantees around 20 goals over league campaign - if that somehow comes from left full back so be it. Chances are striker is you best bet there tho. They simply need someone to score in those dead games where you get one or 2 chances, like Wood did for Forest.
David is a bum
Jonathan David is not good enough
I mean all the arsenal strikers performed better than yhe liverpool strikers last season and they still ended up second
Arsenal didn't lack a striker. They lacked a healthy attack
Diaz won’t be sold so even if nothing else happens this window we start against Bournemouth with Gakpo Diaz Salah up front, the same as most of the games last season. The only differences will be the full backs and Wirtz.
False 9 could be good tbh. Put Wirtz there, falls back, Salah and maybe Gakpo gets inside to form like a 2 ST formation
Sesko
Liverpool have shown they're willing to spend big on sure-thing players. Šeško is not that yet.
Been doing the false 9 since Klopp rollocked Benteke after the Southampton game in 2016
I think there was an idea that Wirtz will be false nine with salah and gakpo being main up front
Salah false 9 Ballon d’Or run 🔥
Ekitike has a lot of potential, ideally him in my opinion.
I know people can point at his xG underperformance but they can’t elaborate on why and how he underperformed and if it’s coachable or not. I think he’s a very talented player.
He is but at the quoted price it’s a huge risk. The Darwin signing is too similar to the potential Elitike one for you guys to just pay the fee without having any reservations
The Isak signing would’ve been a huge risk as well for the price he was signed for back then, people nowadays act like everyone knew he was world class but there would’ve been uproar from Liverpool fans if we paid that for Isak at the time. Sometimes you just have to take a risk.
Ekitike much better fundamentals than Nunez tbh
Didn't Isak get 4 league goals the season before Newcastle bought him or something like that? Or am I misremembering?
6 league goals actually
Hijack Gyokeres
Watch it be Gyokeres after Arsenal fail to sign him.
They'll get Ekitike. He has potential to be an Isak but it's a risk
I prefer if he gets another season at Frankfurt than buying him at his current price. We also have longstanding interest in Sesko
Thuram?
They'll need one out and out 9 who is comfortable playing RW. Gakpo plays LW/CF, Wirtz plays LW/SS, Salah stays RW. Assuming Nunez, Diaz, Elliot leaves, they'll need a cover for RW, CF, ideally 2 players.
If Barca needs a lever, Raphinha would be a stellar signing for rotation for CF/RW. A backup like Aklioche would be nice if they're okay being a squad player, a role Elliot seems to have outgrown.
Liverpool fans think they’re getting Isak which would cost a fortune. Probably Sesko if arsenal go for Gyokeres? Or Ekitike?
Or they lean into false 9 this year and they go for someone like Rodrygo who could also fill in RW when Mo is at AFCON
I bet they get etitike
Wouldn’t like it but don’t understand why they don’t go for Watkins.
Watkins will be very expensive as well, and is 29
One of a handful of players to consistently get 10+ goals in the premier league in each of the last five seasons, really good injury record.
I hope he stays at Villa, but in a striker market like this spending 50mil on Watkins to cover that striker position for a couple pf years until Ekitike develops or someone else appears doesn't seem like a terrible idea.
Assuming Darwin and Diaz go, I feel like a Rodrygo+Watkins buy is stronger than a Ekitike+40mil-ish winger (I can't come up with a decent name).
Really hope they get him. They are going to be the most fun team in Europe to watch next season.
Such a mad combination of players.
It will be interesting to see him in a 2 striker system again (if conte changes to a 3-5-2)
Napoli 4-4-2 with Darwin and Lukaku up front while De Bruyne pinging passes to them and McTominay making runs into the box
No chance those two start together without someone like Lobotka as an anchor
4-4-2 with KDB and McTominay will get absolutely smoked. Unless Conte changes the way they play, but then they are not the same quality
yeah, that makes no sense. KdB has no legs and McTominay is a poor modern DM, no chance that team doesn't play with Lobotka (Glimore for rotation)
most likely there'll be a rotation of the 3 that played last season, Lobotka (DM), Anguissa (CM glue), and McTominay (B2B with late runs into box) and KdB can be rotated for either Anguissa or McTominay but higher up the pitch near the striker so he can do creative KdB things with enough athleticism around him
442 diamond though with mctominay as the 10 and KDB the right sided cm
While benching two extremely important midfielders and getting completely overrun in the middle 🔥
Ugh I forgot about KdB signing for them.
Who do they have on the flanks nowadays?
scenes when kdb whips in a perfect weighted pass to nunez and he goes 1 on 1 with the keeper and misses it
Miss won’t matter because he was offside anyway 🧠
Nunez has plenty of experience of that with Salah. So won't be an issue for him atleast.
Its okay kdb is used to that. He had peak sterling, jesus, and grealish
It will be more like a highlight reel. I'm sure this will happen multiple times
Darwin and Chiesa are most likely leaving.
They've already sadly lost Jota, and Diaz seems to want to join Barca.
That leaves them with Gakpo, Salah and Jayden Danns.
Gyokeres seems to be on his way to Arsenal. Sesko is not worth the 100 Million quoted by Leipzig, neither is Ekitike. Osimhen is off to Galatasaray.
Will be interesting to see what Liverpool and Slot do in terms of tactics and signings.
Imagine Euros Chiesa with this Liverpool
I wanted it so badly my man, but I think it’s obvious he has lost a bit a pace. Although I do think Slot was a bit harsh with how little chances he gave him, but probably in big part because Salah basically refuses to sub out.
really sad that player got taken away from us, he was such a breath of fresh air with his direct dribbling style, not many players at that level play with such direct and simple efficiency
Jots death is probably the only part of this Liverpool were unprepared for.
We also have Wirtz, Frimpong, Elliott (might also be leaving) and Szoboszlai. No club looks set to match the price for Diaz either. Plenty of options.
Just put anyone in front of Wirtz and you are good. Dude can make a coal look like a diamond
You got it boss Wirtz + Nunez it is
I think Chiesa might stick around now actually, aside from Diogo he’s probably the most versatile of the remaining forwards (ability to play across the front 3)
Wirtz as a false 9 I'd think
Please send some of the Turkish moolah our way, Mr. Laurentiis sir. Wouldn't want to make Conte disappointed with the backing he's receiving would we?
You guys get 200m by existing (playing in the prem) we get 200m by going into debt. We're not the same
I wish they would go for Lorenzo Lucca instead
Why ?
Fm legend
Im sorry Stupid question
Mostly because Nunez is ass and expensive and Lucca is the only remaining striker left who was heavily rumored to be a target. I prefer Lucca of the two of them.
Nunez is not that bad. His stats under Klopp compared to the minutes he played are pretty good, he had 19 G/A in just 22 starts over 36 game last season, averaging 57 minutes per game. His stats this season aren't that good, but he barely played and Slot doesn't rate him at all. Yes, he misses quite a few chances but at the same time he is able to create some good chanches on his own. He’s not just a poacher, runs the channels, creates chaos, and links up decently.
That’s the kind of forward Conte usually likes, someone who can work off the ball and contribute to the system, not just sit in the box. Lucca, on the other hand, is more of a pure finisher. He’s got that target man profile and waits for service inside the box, but that doesn’t really suit Conte’s style of play. Lucca is better at finishing, more of a target man who waits for the ball inside the opponent penalty box, which doesn't really fit the way Conte usually play.
Nunez won't be ass in serie A watch
Lucca would just be another Petagna or Pavoletti, except he's less proven than either. His only good season is barely better than Darwin's worst. He'd be a decent Simeone replacement for 15-20m or so, but nothing more than that.
Any chance at all Liverpool try to sign Isak?
Newcastle don't want to sell so the fee would be 120 at least I assume.
Would Liverpool buy two >100 mil players in the same window? Has that been done before?
I dont think Newcastle is selling Isak for 120. IDK what is his "objective" worth but at least this season he is priceless for Newcastle. They need to build up momentum where they reach CL multiple years in a row, and selling Isak now would ruin that.
No chance, as Isak has no intention to move and Newcastle has no intention to sell. Would need another transfer record broken. Plus a contract extension with Isak is imminent.
What are you on about? Do you have any source for this?
Literally yesterday Craig Hope said that there's been no significant progress in terms of a contract extension and that it's not even known whether Isak wants an extension (obviously Newcastle want to tie him down).
He also said that our interest is very real and it would take at least £150m to get a deal done and we'd require sales in order to fund it.
Also didn't rule out that it would happen this summer saying there's a chance even if he's much more likely to move next summer.
as Isak has no intention to move
Based on what? I suspect he'd jump at the chance if it was realistic. Bigger club, bigger wages, more chance of trophies. Just because there's no sign of him throwing his toys out the pram doesn't mean he wouldn't be seriously interested.
Newcastle will have to tear up their wage structure to give him anything close to matching what Liverpool would offer.
We will try for Isak because the club has liked him pre-Newcastle days. It’s been known Isak is open to move to Arsenal or LFC but he won’t force a move
Imo. There's no chance unless Isak himself puts in a transfer request. And even then, they'll ask 120-150m. I think the only chance, and I don't think it's a great chance, is that Newcastle fail to qualify for CL next season and he wants out.
They might try, but chances are close to zero.
Newcastle is giving fuck off price, around 200 mil. If there was a chance for close to 120, Arsenal would have tried harder.
PSG got Neymar and Mbape in the same window, but there was something like an obligation for Mbape, so they didn't pay upfront in the same window iirc.
Newcastle is giving fuck off price, around 200 mil.
£150m is what has been repeatedly rumoured.
PSG did with Neymar and Mbappe
Liverpool does not have that kinda oil money
No isak is minimum 140m+ so too risky
Highly unlikely especially since we need to get backup ST too
There's definitely a chance and the rumours that we'll try haven't completely died down. Even Craig Hope, one of Newcastle's local journos, was indicating yesterday that it's not out of the realms of possibility, even if the most likely scenario is a transfer (not to us specifically) happens next summer.
He indicated the asking price would be at least £150m.
I don't think the transfer will happen this summer, to be clear.
In premier league it might not have been done, but PSG bought Neymar (222 millions euros and Mbappé (180 millions) in the same window
I doubt they will. With the tragedy of what happened with Jota, they have to spread their budget between more players now. Isak was a near impossibility a week ago but now it’s a definite no.
I doubt we want Isak, if that was the case he would have been priority buy at the start of the window. Plus he can't play 50 games a season without injuries.
Unless we sell Daiz Nunez for 130m then maybe it considered.
If Isak was available the club would go for him but he’s not
Any news as to who they might go for?
Ekitite, Sesko are the safest bets on that score i think.
God I hope our data nerds have unearthed a wild card because those two names genuinely don't move me.
Sesko has world class potential imo but i know little of Ekitike beyond him not being the most clinical finisher but having great link-up play.
So did Darwin, honestly I'm sick of the whole "project striker" thing where we buy one and hopefully he turns world class in a few years, I just want a proven goal scorer.
The problem is there’s no one available on the market that fits that. Isak is the only one that fits the bill but he’d be unbelievably expensive and doesn’t have a great injury record. Who do you suggest they go for?
Who do you suggest they go for?
They should just wait out Haaland's contract I think, only 25 years left.
Hahahaha
There’s not any lying on the shelves(outside of osimhen). The market is the market
Not everyone will be Darwin. Isak is ridiculously hard to get, Osimhen is going to Galata. Who do we get that is a world class proven goalscorer?
I don't see it happening, but if we are throwing around 100mil+ bids may as well ask Julian Alvarez if he misses England
I honestly won't know, not sure what type of player we want to sign. A out and out CF or a false 9.
I doubt we want Isak
I think a move is highly unlikely at this stage, but the club obviously really want him. I think they're playing their cards close to their chest on him, waiting to see how the contract talks go. Because otherwise they'd probably have moved for another target by now.
I think this is going end up happening, Nunez wants the move there and he already got an agreement with Napoli. We rejected €50M bid, We're asking for €70M. Something in between is going close especially because we need our new players to join team before Asia preseason trip
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
What happened to Osimhen?
In his prime I expect better than for him to be playing in Turkiye
Hey Napoli... Congrats on the sale.
(Subliminal message)
A bit worried about our options going forward tbh Who do we even buy in this market? Lol
Wouldn’t be surprised if we get someone on loan
I would really like to see Gyokeres in this Liverpool. No idea why you didn't go for him if you're entertaining offers for Nunez
Wish him the best. Loved his chaotic energy, but he wasn't cutting it in the PL.
Who dreams of Darwin Nunez?
Can we interest you in a Rasmus?
Is it the sales period at Liverpool this window or what the hell is happening?
Conte might kill him
I can see Wirtz playing through the middle as a false-nine
Dream target.. Yikes
I hope we don’t pay any € over 52M€ for Nunez.
If the asking price is higher I hope we get Kean from Fiorentina.
Why specifically 52?
Kean releasing clause is 52M€
I think Conte sees in Nunez what he saw in a younger Lukaku. He has more of that foundations and physical attributes, Conte will teach him hold up play and while surely some will keep memeing him as he won't become silky or a killer, he will turn into that specific breed of Conte9. I don't think Kean or Osimhen have it in them, as better as they may be facing the goal. Antonio is the most specific manager I've seen when it comes to his 9s.
I think you have not seen enough Kean playing under Palladino.
He’s done literally what Lukaku has done for Napoli this season.
He’s strong both in front of the goal and as a link up sticker that needs to hold the ball to allow the team to rise.
He would be perfect, 1 year younger, with more Serie A experience and most importantly he comes from a really good season compared to Nunez that needs a total revamp.
Admittedly, no I haven't seen him past season. If that's so yeah I get your perspective now.
This is such a bad football take. Nunez is a speedy attacker than will work better with a target man that will do all the things you said, and that man is Lukaku. Why would he change the way Nunez plays when he has a better version of what you described in Lukaku.
Genuine doubt? Why can’t they sort things out and you know, play him only at their club? Why sell him and experiment on nunez? Is ego coming in between? Look., osimhen is a gifted and very talented. ST. And with KDB behind giving me the passes, It’ll be great.
You have a lot of catching up to do regarding the Osimhen-Napoli saga.
To sum things up: he doesn't want to stay and there's no way to recover the relationship
Then there’s no option I guess.. I mean yea there’s racist stuff involved but they can you know improve relations.. good for both..
There's no racist stuff involved tho
Ayy bro the Napoli TikTok team made a TikTok of him with a monkey sound
The fuck are you saying lmao
He doesn't want to stay, that's why.
Nunez and dream in the same sentence? You ok Napoli
KDB will have to deal with Nunez and Lukaku 😭
Who s going to tell him that KDB and Lukaku play for the same national team for quite some years
You talk as if Kevin hasn't been playing with Lukaku for the past 8 years lol
He passed to worse players in his career
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